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holereader said:
What is Bens problem with playing Thompson? He comes in, they go on am 8-0 run - agree he then took a stupid foul but then Ben sits him for the rest if the game. With zero presence down low I just done get why he doesn’t get more minutes
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Because he didn't want to lose by 30 I think.
 

holereader said:
What is Bens problem with playing Thompson? He comes in, they go on am 8-0 run - agree he then took a stupid foul but then Ben sits him for the rest if the game. With zero presence down low I just done get why he doesn’t get more minutes
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I know there's more to the game than this, but he always comes out with a good +/-. I think just because of his height, presence, and good feet, good things happen when he's in there. It's just tough to watch Curry and Daniels be unable to compete for rebounds out there.
 



stocker08 said:
Whatever you need to tell yourself so that you aren't up all night worried about "diversity hires".
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Race it doesn’t matter. I don’t want to argue. I have my beliefs about the situation that probably resemble Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell and you have yours. No worries bro.
 

UpAndUnder43 said:
How did they get to Minnesota and why did they come? We’re they recruited? To play basketball?

So next year because Fox wasn’t recruited to play big ten basketball we should assume he isn’t good?
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You can assume anything you wish. Inevitably, you will be wrong.

I think Fox will be good even though he was recruited out of high school to play Division II.
 




Bad Gopher said:
I know there's more to the game than this, but he always comes out with a good +/-. I think just because of his height, presence, and good feet, good things happen when he's in there. It's just tough to watch Curry and Daniels be unable to compete for rebounds out there.
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TT is a worse rebounder than those two. The reason to play him would be for contests at the rim and more offense.
 

stocker08 said:
B12 top to bottom....sure. SEC? Maybe at the top of the conference. But the bottom of the SEC is way weaker.
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Disagree. Both Georgia and Ole Miss have beaten better teams than the Gophers have. The top is better and the middle is about the same as the B1G.
 


Looks like the Gophs will play at about 7:30 or so Wednesday night. Another opportunity to win a game. Or not. Maybe Sutherlin will even make a layup.
 



Dakota2 said:
You can assume anything you wish. Inevitably, you will be wrong.

I think Fox will be good even though he was recruited out of high school to play Division II.
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I just think it’s odd that you don’t consider these guys big ten recruits because of how they were 4-5 years ago.

The conference is full of guys who “transferred up” and have done great. Including Battle.
 


UpAndUnder43 said:
I just think it’s odd that you don’t consider these guys big ten recruits because of how they were 4-5 years ago.

The conference is full of guys who “transferred up” and have done great. Including Battle.
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I remember a guy named Bobby Jackson. Transferred from a CC. Guess he wasn't a Big Ten recruit...
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
Did
And they're both going to prove it in the tournament again.
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The only team in the Big Ten that I believe can make the FF is Purdue, maybe the only one that can make the Final 8... Illinois and Wisconsin are not going far.
 

So we are playing Maryland? Ugh. Don't like our chances.
 


GopherWeatherGuy said:
Disagree. Both Georgia and Ole Miss have beaten better teams than the Gophers have. The top is better and the middle is about the same as the B1G.
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Disagree. Georgia....definitely not. And both those teams have quite a few worse losses than the Gophers. Especially Georgia.
 

PhiloVance said:

BADGER HOOP TITLES SPOTLIGHT U FAILURES​

Written By: David Shama
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March 6, 2022
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Another Big Ten Conference basketball season ends today with familiar outcomes for Wisconsin and Minnesota. The Badgers are again men’s Big Ten champions and the Golden Gophers have yet another finish near the bottom of the conference standings.
UW has shared or won outright six league titles this millennium. UM hasn’t come close to winning the Big Ten, and in only three seasons have the Gophers posted a winning conference record.
The Badgers have won league championships in two of the last three years. Minnesota has finished 13th and 11th in the 14-team Big Ten the past two seasons, and on this final Sunday hopes to avoid a last place tie with Nebraska.
Wait. The story gets worse.
Since 2000 Wisconsin has been to three NCAA Final Fours and one national title game. The Badgers have earned their way into the NCAA Tournament every year except 2018. The Gophers have been to the Big Dance five times in 22 years, with two wins.
Only a Gopher fan with no expectations could be satisfied with the disparity between the boys from Dinkytown and Minnesota’s rivals to the East.
What UW has achieved in basketball during the last 20-plus years is more than admirable. It’s remarkable. What the coaches and administrators in charge of Gopher hoops have done is embarrassing.
Two states with such similar histories, culture, populations and demographics. We’re also talking two land grant universities with similar resources for their basketball programs—but with such dissimilar results.
The 2000 Badgers went to the school’s first Final Four in almost 60 years. UW had undergone a turnaround with Dick Bennett, a proven coach who the Badgers found in nearby Green Bay—a guy who had turned the mid-major Phoenix into a power. In 1999 the Gophers had taken the riskier path by hiring a hot name among the mid-major programs—inexperienced Dan Monson from Gonzaga.
When the U said goodbye to Monson eight seasons later, Kentucky was okay bidding farewell to Tubby Smith. Gopher fans found out what Kentuckians already knew: Smith was most successful with the storied Wildcat program in the early years, following the glory run of coach Rick Pitino. Kentucky was in decline when Smith departed from Lexington to take over the Gophers.
While the U opted for a big name in Smith, Bo Ryan was the next home run choice to lead the Badgers. His coaching background included UW-Platteville where all he did was win four Division III national championships. From 2001-2015 Ryan’s Badgers won four Big Ten titles and played in two Final Fours.
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Richard Pitino
True to form, the Gophers got the wrong coach and the wrong Pitino in 2013 after Smith was fired. They signed up Rick’s son Richard, then 30 years old, and without a resume to qualify him as a head Big Ten coach.
When Ryan retired in December of 2015, the decision makers in Madison remained true to their formula of hiring home state coaches who are superb teachers, using a system that fits the personnel, and understanding their recruiting base. Greg Gard, Ryan’s assistant and a Wisconsin native, has led the Badgers to two conference titles in seven seasons and had three other teams that finished no worse than fourth in the standings.
Gard should be national coach of the year for what he and his players have accomplished this season. Nobody saw this year’s success coming. The Big Ten title was supposed to be won by Michigan, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State or Ohio State. Those programs might have more talent but the Badgers are the definition of a team.
They play together in all phases of the game and execute fundamentals like they were at a coaching clinic. There is the trademark stingy defense, including the willingness to sacrifice “life and limb” to clog driving lanes. They move the basketball on offense and have efficient shot selection. They’re physically and mentally tough, and that pays off in various ways including rebounding.
Bennett, Ryan and Gard teams have all played this way. They have built success with players willing to buy in, and many of them are Minnesotans. This year the Badgers have three starters from the Twin Cities area, center Steven Crowl, guard Brad Davison and forward Tyler Wahl. Two years ago the 2020 Big Ten champion Badgers had five Minnesotans on the roster including key contributor Nate Reuvers from Lakeville North.
The parade to Madison started years ago and has turned out successfully for many Gopher state players including guard Jordan Taylor and forward Jon Leuer who were stars on Wisconsin NCAA Tournament teams. Truth is while the Gophers wanted some players who made the Badgers a Big Ten power, often the home boys were shown minimal interest. While the U was landing an Isaiah Washington, UW was signing up a Brad Davison.
Badger players know they will be taught how to play the game and how to win. Their teammates are mostly from Wisconsin, Illinois and Minnesota, with maybe a player or two from places like Ohio or South Dakota. Not a roster with glitzy prep recruits, but team oriented guys with more focus on winning the Big Ten than having a pro career. Despite all their Big Ten and national success, the Badgers haven’t had an NBA draft choice since 2015.
Maybe Ben Johnson, finishing up his fist season as Minnesota’s head coach, will row the program in a different direction. Finally the U has a Gopher alum and native son leading the program. Already he has shown a commitment to Minnesota prep players in his recruiting. The Big Ten record this winter of 4-11 heading into tonight’s final regular season game at Northwestern is dismal but the coaching and effort by the players has kept Minnesota competitive in many games.
But the future is speculation. As of today, the results of this millennium speak loudly in Madison and Minneapolis.
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Any true Gopher fan has to agree with this article.
 






UpAndUnder43 said:
I just think it’s odd that you don’t consider these guys big ten recruits because of how they were 4-5 years ago.

The conference is full of guys who “transferred up” and have done great. Including Battle.
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I know this is really complicated for you but .... high school players are recruits. Guys from the portal are transfers.

Every year there will be recruits to lower level programs who show in time they could play higher. Battle. And there will be some Power 6 recruits who end up transferring lower. The portal helps both ways.
 



Nowhere to go but same place or up next year. Ill be shocked if its not up. We’ll have better talent and more depth.
 

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