What? Do you even remember watching Jim Tressel? PJ might as well be Jim Tressel when it comes to game management. He has Tressel-ball down to an (infuriating) science.
Any beer-lover will tell you brew is no good when it goes flat.
PJ gave guys like "JoeSchmoe" a free pass by making it clear that he isn't for everyone. Folks here need to do the same. Its time to recognize that and move on
He has from day 1. Don’t expect it to change by then.
Children are getting a really bad rap on this board.
Spot on!
Fleck HAS taken the high road.
has Ol' Jer ever mentioned it was a few of his players who decided to record themselves running a train on some Gopher coeds, what he think was going to happen to his coaching successor
Thank you for taking the time to dig that up. People that are this much out of touch usually are trolls or have some beef to express and you very likely hit the nail on the head. I also find it interesting that JoeSchmoe hasn't posted since you shared your police work. Hmmmm. I will now go back and add him to my ignore list. I don't mind disagreements because I often learn a lot from people I disagree with. But, when there is a likely agenda like this, there is no point in listening.
Sorry. I'm actually busy with life and work. Anytime someone has a strong opinion, others bring up grammar issues or they must be related to someone, etc to deflect. If that's that case...PJ's entire family must be members of this board. I have a strong opinion because he does rub me the wrong way and I'm not buying the snake oil he sells. I'd rather our coach was not a used car salesman. I'm old school so sue me. It's amazing to me to see so many people eat up everything he says and does like he is nick saban without the results.
As someone pointed out above, Kill's sideline antics were more maddening than Fleck's are. If ever there was concrete evidence that Kill is a deeply religious man, it would be the states of glossolalia he would go into whenever the refs made a close call against the Gophers.
It's rather ironic you defend Kill over what he "didn't say," while simultaneously inventing things Fleck said, don't you think?
Im amazed some “fans” have nothing but bad things to say about Fleck, like he hasn’t been winning games or running a respectable program.
Your entitled to your opinion. Mine is that Fleck has the program in the best place it has been in a very long time. Sure his personality could rub some the wrong way but this program needed a salesman and a coach and it got both.
I hate the break it to you, but Kill was more used car saleman that Fleck. Flecks more structured and created a program around it which gets attention, but he’s less snakeoil when it comes to recruiting than our old staff. Flecks sales is what are needed to be successful in the B1G imo.
A lot of fans of a lot of teams would fire their way into the gutter ... and stay there if they made the calls.
I doubt that you're that busy with life and work. Your name JoeSchmoe speaks for itself. Much snake oil in it.
Doubt he's even a Gopher fan. Seems more like an Iowa fan.
Kill sure knows how to find a microphone.
I believe the allegation was that PJ very early on (opening press conference?) made comments to the effect of "we needed to come in and clean things up" or something like that.
You are correct for the most part. But it is slightly more complicated than that. Fleck and Kill have a history of coaching together. And PJ talked about culture change when he was hired at MN and that really set Kill off.
