FSU Want to leave ACC and come to B1G

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short ornery norwegian said:
Greg Flugaur
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:ROFLMAO:
short ornery norwegian said:
believe it or not.
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Not.


It truly is incredible. A person like GF, who literally did nothing but go on Twitter and post pure fabrications that came out of his ass, never knew, let alone actually talked to a single person who worked for a university or a major conference ...... gets to become a "star".

Only in the Flat Earth world of conference realignment.
 
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howeda7 said:
The only upside to 20 is we can go back to having divisions. It would make most sense to grab Stanford and either FSU or UVa.

West: Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford

North: Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Purdue

Lakes: Michigan, OSU, Michigan State, Illinois, Northwestern

East: Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, FSU, Virginia, Indiana
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Making the beyond obvious correct replacement of FSU with Virginia (lock up DC and NoVA, high academic school, wealthy alumni), this permutation still needs a bit of tweaking.

With 20 conf teams and 9 conf games, going into divisions of 5 like this means defacto you have 4 locked-in annual games against your division mates. As noted by SG, you play everyone else every three years (six years for home/home), since there are 15 remaining conf teams and 5 remaining conf games per year.

But the Big Ten has declared the following rivalries must be played every year:
  • Conference schedules include 12 protected annual matchups: Illinois-Northwestern, Illinois-Purdue, Indiana-Purdue, Iowa-Minnesota, Iowa-Nebraska, Iowa-Wisconsin, Maryland-Rutgers, Michigan-Michigan State, Michigan-Ohio State, Minnesota-Wisconsin, Oregon-Washington and UCLA-USC.

All of these must be played, except I think Mary-Rutgers could be let go and was just fabricated to give those schools something. Maryland-Virginia has much better appeal and history to it.

Not sure if Rutgers realistically has a rival, similar to Penn State. Although they do have a true rival in Pitt, which might be relevant as an addition farther down the road. And Stanford would be fine in the western division.

This makes the task a bit difficult. Basically, you've got Stanford, PSU, and Rutgers that are one-off "floaters", while the following groups must be in some division together:
- Washington, Oregon,
- USC, UCLA
- Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa,
- Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana
- Michigan, OSU, Michigan State,
- Virginia, Maryland,

Stanford obviously has to be with the western group. But then no matter how you slice it, you're going to have some odd teams together to make the other three divisions work out. Think the best you could do is:

Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford

Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State

Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers

Michigan, OSU, Michigan State, Virginia, Maryland
 

Stanford doesn't have a football team the Big Ten or SEC would ever consider. I want Stanford but is off any realistic list because they don't have football there as far as the bigs are concerned.
 

You could go to 28 with:

Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Colorado, Arizona State
Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Pitt, Kansas
Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Michigan, OSU, Michigan State, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Duke

At that point, you almost have to go NFL and have 12 conference games. That gets you your six division games and then you play the 21 other teams home/home every seven years.

Probably make the NCAA allow 13 regular season games, so you can get the 7th home game or schedule an in-state rival.
 


SHGopher said:
Stanford doesn't have a football team the Big Ten or SEC would ever consider. I want Stanford but is off any realistic list because they don't have football there as far as the bigs are concerned.
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There are other factors that are much harder to quantify, that could still be perceived as worthwhile benefits to Big Ten presidents.

And Notre Dame might require them.
 

DelawareGopher said:
As a fan of another ACC school, and as someone who’s lived in FSU country, we should not want FSU in the B1G. Super obnoxious, self-entitled, mostly redneck fanbase that does not at all fit the culture of the conference. They think they’re the only reason the ACC is a decent conference. And now that they actually have some academic standards with a big rise in US News (thanks to booming population growth), they’re pretentious about academics too.

It’s a bad concoction of sucky traits. Getting shafted by the CFP couldn’t have happened to a better fanbase. I hope they pay out the nose to leave the ACC and end up stuck in the Big 12.
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100% correct
 

swede2 said:
You've apparently missed the negotiations that have been going on in the ACC for the better part of a year instigated by FSU and directly related to distribution of revenue with the result being that the ACC adopted their performance incentives which FSU obviously was not satisfied with.
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None of the things you said was “engage in negotiations to see if a reasonable amount for the GoR buyout can be agreed to by all parties”.
 

PMWinSTP said:
For me, the next two at this point are the Irish and Stanford. Irish really should have come with Penn State.
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There was something that went down in 1999, a vote by ND board about joining the Big Ten? But they voted it down, is what I understand.
 



MplsGopher said:
:ROFLMAO:

Not.


It truly is incredible. A person like GF, who literally did nothing but go on Twitter and post pure fabrications that came out of his ass, never knew, let alone actually talked to a single person who worked for a university or a major conference ...... gets to become a "star".

Only in the Flat Earth world of conference realignment.
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You said this when GF talked about Washington and Oregon too. Who is talking out their orifice.?
 

MplsGopher said:
You could go to 28 with:

Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Colorado, Arizona State
Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Pitt, Kansas
Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Michigan, OSU, Michigan State, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Duke

At that point, you almost have to go NFL and have 12 conference games. That gets you your six division games and then you play the 21 other teams home/home every seven years.

Probably make the NCAA allow 13 regular season games, so you can get the 7th home game or schedule an in-state rival.
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Where to begin.

Stanford doubtful
Pitt never
Duke never
Syracuse never
Kansas doubtful
Why do you keep putting PSU in with us? Never
 


FSU was independent through 1991, like many, many schools (several stopped being independent in 1990, as well).

They have no long history with either Big Ten or SEC schools.

They deserve nothing.
 



MplsGopher said:
FSU was independent through 1991, like many, many schools (several stopped being independent in 1990, as well).

They have no long history with either Big Ten or SEC schools.

They deserve nothing.
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Deserves got nothing to do with it.
 

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