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Practice? You're talking about practice?
Got to say that 20 more times!
Practice? You're talking about practice?
You may be right about Streveler, though I think its fair to say he had a nice 70 td run and a very accurate long completion in the spring game. Perhaps he's a better thrower than we realize?
In some ways, he reminds me of a Beathard as compared to a Rudock for Iowa. And they finally made the switch.
You may be right about Streveler, though I think its fair to say he had a nice 70 td run and a very accurate long completion in the spring game. Perhaps he's a better thrower than we realize?
In some ways, he reminds me of a Beathard as compare to a Rudock for Iowa. And they finally made the switch.
You're just trolling us at this point arent you?
I never troll, I just roll...
Leidner is what he is. A game manager. Can he become more than that, I don't see why not? His amazing leadership, work ethic, etc. No doubt it's all true, but <b>I've heard that same thing about every QB we've ever had</b>, so I take it with a grain of salt. He's good enough to win games with right now though, has the physical tools to get better & still has two whole years left at the helm. I like where we're sitting with Mitch.
Honestly, I'd be satisfied with him if he plays ONE great game against Wisconsin. Haven't seen that yet.
Mitch Leidner is still growing in the position of QB and there is no reason to think that his play continues to improve. He fits well into Kill's system. He is certainly better than Marquies, Nelson or Shortell. Yes, he can be frustrating at times, but he will keep getting better and my guess is the guy who follows Mitch at QB will be more athletic and an upgrade at the position. Like Kill said, it's about recruiting better players! And by the way, there aren't that many great QB's in the college game, I would say Mitch is about average among Power 5 players at his position and probably ends up better than avg before his career is done.
GO GOPHERS!
+1. The coaching staff likes to keep pressure on players as well. If one of the backup QB's is killing it in practice this year he will see some time on the field.
I think it is about time we roll this troll out of here. His shtick is wearing thin.
Who made you Propaganda Minister? Take your censorship back to China or Saudi Arabia or the campus
I respect your opinion and your right to state it over and over and over and over again.
Leidner is what he is. A game manager. Can he become more than that, I don't see why not? His amazing leadership, work ethic, etc. No doubt it's all true, but I've heard that same thing about every QB we've ever had, so I take it with a grain of salt. He's good enough to win games with right now though, has the physical tools to get better & still has two whole years left at the helm. I like where we're sitting with Mitch.
I don't disagree with your take at all.
But what I was asking in the original post is...is Leidner good enough to get the program to the next level, into championship play and winning the Axe and a big bowl game? Or is the ceiling another 8 win season and maybe Floyd or the Governor's Bell? Or might another qb be given that opportunity?
Nothing like starting a QB controversy in July....
I have been a Leidner critic at times, but here's the reality: barring injury, he will start every game for the rest of his career. Bring the back-up QB talk to the amateur board, because he is the best we have and will be until he leaves.
You rate quarterbacks by how many games they win. Leidner has led the team to 8 wins two years in a row. Joe Kapp was a lot uglier as a QB and was named NFL Player of the year in 1969. He was named team MVP and turned it down. Leidner is becoming comparable in his ability to lead. Leidner will get better on the field and his leadership will remain his strength.
Jeff George, Jay Cutler two guys with 10x the talent can't win nothun' Judge quarterbacks by winning...it's the only measure that matters.
Joel Stave may have more wins than any other Big Ten QB...is he the best?
Certainly wasn't in the Conference Championship
Joel Stave may have more wins than any other Big Ten QB...is he the best?
There's some truth in that but I have to ask...How do you know "he's the best we have?" They said the same thing about Philip Nelson didn't they? And Christian Ponder.
You don't judge anything strictly on one thing. But, when it comes to quarterbacks they have a major influence in who wins the game. They make critical plays in big moments or you lose.
Might not even be noticeable to anybody, but maybe the QB, your leader, fired up a lineman before the 3rd down play with a glare or a comment and you just got the first down running over that guy clearing space.
You play to win. You play the quarterback who gives you the best chance to win. Intangibles are pretty hard to rate from the stands. Sometimes the only way is results.
I do think Leidner benefits from a very good defense. He also benefits from a good scheme. But lets say we can't run versus TCU. Let's say Leidner can't move the ball and we are down by two touchdowns or more in the second half. If Perra is healthy and looks good in August and the situation is as outlined, I believe he will play because he gives the team the best chance to win through the air. Quarterbacks are judged on winning and coaches realize they are too.
There's some truth in that but I have to ask...How do you know "he's the best we have?" They said the same thing about Philip Nelson didn't they? And Christian Ponder.
Get this information to Coach Kill ASAP. It's likely he and his staff have never considered evaluating the back-ups.
There's some truth in that but I have to ask...How do you know "he's the best we have?" They said the same thing about Philip Nelson didn't they? And Christian Ponder.