Fleck said the Gophers have developed a program to address racism and he wants to be “the most empathetic head coach in America.”

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P.J. Fleck said the Gophers have developed a program to address racism and he wants to be “the most empathetic head coach in America.” Fleck has used speakers such as Tony Dungy and Dr. Harry Edwards to talk about race with his team. Edwards, the famous sociologist and race expert, once took Fleck and his San Francisco 49ers teammates to a California prison.


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BleedGopher said:
per Shama:

P.J. Fleck said the Gophers have developed a program to address racism and he wants to be “the most empathetic head coach in America.” Fleck has used speakers such as Tony Dungy and Dr. Harry Edwards to talk about race with his team. Edwards, the famous sociologist and race expert, once took Fleck and his San Francisco 49ers teammates to a California prison.


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He may lose a fan or two, but most of us will support him to the fullest!
 

STPGopher said:
He may lose a fan or two, but most of us will support him to the fullest!
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Whenever PJ does something like this it's not uncommon for me to get an earful from some of my middle-aged to old-aged acquaintances who have a great disdain for change, and anything PJ Fleck. "Ope!...your hyper, little hipster head coach is at it again!"...or, "How many acronyms do they need to get motivated to play football?!", and the list goes on. Their misery over things that they should easily be able to block out gives me a secret satisfaction.
I think this is a good idea for reasons that don't even need to be explained.
 



STPGopher said:
He may lose a fan or two, but most of us will support him to the fullest!
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Kind of a dumb comment. Why would he lose a fan or two? Coach Fleck is going to do what he thinks you're supposed to do in 2021 for the people inside the program. What does that have to do with the fans or anyone else?

Saying divisive things like this doesn't really help anyone that supports Gopher sports. I know we all love to think that we're smarter and more woke and more in tune with the 'proper' culture than other people but comments like this don't really help anything
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Kind of a dumb comment. Why would he lose a fan or two? Coach Fleck is going to do what he thinks you're supposed to do in 2021 for the people inside the program. What does that have to do with the fans or anyone else?

Saying divisive things like this doesn't really help anyone that supports Gopher sports. I know we all love to think that we're smarter and more woke and more in tune with the 'proper' culture than other people but comments like this don't really help anything
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How is it divisive? This isn't about being woke or whatever YOU want to make it. Where we agree is that this does have to do with with the program internally.

Regarding a what does this have to do with a select few fans, I think you already know.

Onward and upward! Go Gophers!!!
 


STPGopher said:
He may lose a fan or two, but most of us will support him to the fullest!
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Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Kind of a dumb comment. Why would he lose a fan or two? Coach Fleck is going to do what he thinks you're supposed to do in 2021 for the people inside the program. What does that have to do with the fans or anyone else?

Saying divisive things like this doesn't really help anyone that supports Gopher sports. I know we all love to think that we're smarter and more woke and more in tune with the 'proper' culture than other people but comments like this don't really help anything
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"Why would he lose a fan or two?".....and then proceeds to whine and complain about why this is bad.
 




STPGopher said:
How is it divisive? This isn't about being woke or whatever YOU want to make it. Where we agree is that this does have to do with with the program internally.

Regarding a what does this have to do with a select few fans, I think you already know.

Onward and upward! Go Gophers!!!
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Still not sure why fans would care what the coach is going to do as he addresses the team and how he handles education and awareness within the program? What the coach does with his team and his players and his coaches is his business. If I were him and my target demographic were D-1 athletes from 15-23 years old, I'd be saying and doing a lot of the same things. Fleck is a very very smart football coach and I think he's doing a great job of running this program.

Outside of a few people that aren't really crazy about his particular style, I think he's got the support of just about everyone that cares about Gopher sports and Gopher Football
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Still not sure why fans would care what the coach is going to do as he addresses the team and how he handles education and awareness within the program?
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The people that would care are people who would write things like:

I know we all love to think that we're smarter and more woke and more in tune with the 'proper' culture than other people
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Still not sure why fans would care what the coach is going to do as he addresses the team and how he handles education and awareness within the program? What the coach does with his team and his players and his coaches is his business. If I were him and my target demographic were D-1 athletes from 15-23 years old, I'd be saying and doing a lot of the same things. Fleck is a very very smart football coach and I think he's doing a great job of running this program.

Outside of a few people that aren't really crazy about his particular style, I think he's got the support of just about everyone that cares about Gopher sports and Gopher Football
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Look, This isn't about me nor you, but the program. I think(?) we agree. Regarding a few fans(?). There are a few that are opposed to what Fleck is doing, and what is currently going on in the world. Some have voiced it here. Even to the point of questioning why such things are necessary.

Go Fleck, Go Gophers!!!
 



stocker08 said:
"Why would he lose a fan or two?".....and then proceeds to whine and complain about why this is bad.
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I admit that I find it odd as well. I choose to be careful with my words and just say that change for some is hard.
 

FredCoxRocks said:
Whenever PJ does something like this it's not uncommon for me to get an earful from some of my middle-aged to old-aged acquaintances who have a great disdain for change, and anything PJ Fleck. "Ope!...your hyper, little hipster head coach is at it again!"...or, "How many acronyms do they need to get motivated to play football?!", and the list goes on. Their misery over things that they should easily be able to block out gives me a secret satisfaction.
I think this is a good idea for reasons that don't even need to be explained.
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I'm an old guy and like you say, had reservations about Fleck when he arrived. Really grown to admire him, especially the last year or so and the way he handles the off field stuff.
 

If he truly wanted to show elite level of empathy, he would quit to open the job up for an African-American candidate.

A lot of white people in positions of power talk a lot about lack of opportunities and fairness, but no one ever opens their own spot earned through whiteness and privileged? Probably because they think they got their own job through hard work and talent.
 

WoodburyTim said:
If he truly wanted to show elite level of empathy, he would quit to open the job up for an African-American candidate.

A lot of white people in positions of power talk a lot about lack of opportunities and fairness, but no one ever opens their own spot earned through whiteness and privileged? Probably because they think they got their own job through hard work and talent.
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if you haven't, you should read guns germs and steel. Good book
 


Catechol said:
The initiative itself is great. Fleck saying “I want to be the most empathetic head coach in America” makes it, again, mostly about him and what he’s doing.
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I feel like this is an endless lazy criticism for a head coach that you could never avoid.

He is the head coach, yeah he's gonna mention what he is doing... that's how it works.

We're all on this forum... posting about what WE THINK.
 


I guess this is where I am -
If Fleck wants to be "the most empathetic head coach in America," fine. He is the head coach and can set whatever goals for the program he wants to set.

My question is why this needs to be publicized. Is this going to help the team recruit better players? (I suppose that's possible) or win more games?

This is where Fleck becomes a rorschach test of sorts. Some people look at this, and they see Fleck setting standards for his program and improving the team's culture. Other people look at this, and they see Fleck promoting how "woke" he is and making it about himself and not about the team.

I just want to know who the bleep is going to start at WR and whether the run defense is going to be better. Screw empathy - give me a nose tackle who can control the line of scrimmage.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
I guess this is where I am -
If Fleck wants to be "the most empathetic head coach in America," fine. He is the head coach and can set whatever goals for the program he wants to set.

My question is why this needs to be publicized. Is this going to help the team recruit better players? (I suppose that's possible) or win more games?

This is where Fleck becomes a rorschach test of sorts. Some people look at this, and they see Fleck setting standards for his program and improving the team's culture. Other people look at this, and they see Fleck promoting how "woke" he is and making it about himself and not about the team.

I just want to know who the bleep is going to start at WR and whether the run defense is going to be better. Screw empathy - give me a nose tackle who can control the line of scrimmage.
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Y-You realize those things are not mutually exclusive, right?
 


Did he call a press conference to announce this, or did Shama dig this up while doing his job?
 


Unregistered User said:
Did he call a press conference to announce this, or did Shama dig this up while doing his job?
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Shama probably pulled this from the same place he pulled the Garcia, Holmgren, Reuvers, Thompson scoop....his a$$
 


short ornery norwegian said:
I guess this is where I am -
If Fleck wants to be "the most empathetic head coach in America," fine. He is the head coach and can set whatever goals for the program he wants to set.

My question is why this needs to be publicized. Is this going to help the team recruit better players? (I suppose that's possible) or win more games?

This is where Fleck becomes a rorschach test of sorts. Some people look at this, and they see Fleck setting standards for his program and improving the team's culture. Other people look at this, and they see Fleck promoting how "woke" he is and making it about himself and not about the team.

I just want to know who the bleep is going to start at WR and whether the run defense is going to be better. Screw empathy - give me a nose tackle who can control the line of scrimmage.
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LOL! We wanted a transformative coach who can recruit and sell Gopher Football. I guess we can't shut his motor off.

A lot of it is PR. The more publicity, the more recruiting opportunities. He takes every opportunity to market the Gopher Brand seriously. He seizes and thrives on being a half and half guy. Half think he is far off flakey. The other half think he is the next best thing to slice bread.

There isn't a week especially during football season where you do not hear about Gopher Football. He gets National media attention. But, he had to work hard to achieve this.

He genuinely care about his players and about positive transformation.

In contrast, I was in Oklahoma on company assignment one week during the Barry Switzer era. There wasn't a single day or a sanctuary where you could escape the Sooner Schooner Blitz every single moment. It is like a religion down there - radio, TV, advertisement signs, people chatting about Sooner Football in flight, at Walmart, the gas station, at the On The Border Restaurant.

The hope is that when the Gophers win a title someday, the rest of the football world will take the Gopher Football seriously.

That is the fair standard for success for any coach. Until then, we have to keep listening and hoping.
 
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I'll offer that he is the pre-eminent D1 Football coach in Minnesota who's institution happens to be in located in "Minneapolis."

Whether like it or not after May 25, 2020, the reality is the home of our beloved University of Minnesota is now synonymous with the racial struggles that continue to challenge our country.

Coach Fleck is just staying ahead of the curve in the way he thinks elevates his FB program above it but very importantly without ignoring it. Not an easy task. Only time will tell if it will fully translate to the field.

My 5 cents is that it will.
 


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