The Marching Band needs our help.

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I know this doesn't exactly pertain to the Gophers football team and some of you don't care about the marching band, but they are a part of the college game day experience. It has come to my attention that the band is in some SERIOUS need of some help if they are to continue as a part of the University. Please read the following message that was sent out by the Band Alumni and help out if you can.



To my friends and (former) band mates,

You, and everyone you ever marched with, or played in a pep band with, need to know that the athletic bands are in serious trouble.

First, I’m going to tell you why. Then, I’m going to tell you why I need your help.

The director of the School of Music, David Myers and similar powers from the West Bank, are trying to destroy the Marching Band and the Pep Bands in order to gain budget space while money is tight in these economic times. The athletic bands are in a time of great financial insecurity with their two sources of funding, the President’s Office and the Athletics Department, changing regimes this year with the introduction of Eric Kaler as President of the University and the future retirement of Joel Maturi.

To kill the Marching Band and Pep Bands, David Myers needs only to dissolve the positions of Marching Band Director and Associate Marching Band director. The threat of this is very real. In the recent years while he’s been in charge of the School of Music, his actions have made it clear that he does not support the athletic bands, while his lip service has kept critics at bay and donors clueless.

Both directorial positions are severely underpaid by major college football standards. The current situation dictates that even if Tim Diem or Alicia Neal were to quit or be fired, no School of Music faculty, present or externally hired, would backfill their positions simply because you can’t hire anyone even somewhat reasonable for that cheap. Instead, in the short term, a graduate assistant would likely be placed in charge of running the entire Marching Band and the Pep Bands with whatever staff and students remain in the aftermath. In the wake of that potential “lost year,” it is then likely that the band program would be finally dismantled.

I am not fear mongering. This threat is legit. All of the signs are there, and it is our job as alumni to do what we can to fight it.

There is only one way to save the athletics bands and preserve their future, and that is to endow all or at least a portion of the marching band and pep bands. That is a very big number in the $5 million range, and, obviously, that goal sounds impossible at first.

Believe it or not, but the Marching Band and Pep Bands are entities that can attract sponsorships and the money to reach a goal even that huge. To give you some perspective, Ohio State's band made a $1.5 million sponsorship agreement last year that pays out over two years. Here at Minnesota we should at least be making a sponsorship deal in the $300k range. And trust me, there are plenty of big donors who love the band.

Matt Clark, myself, Rob Atkinson, Matt “Biffy” Hanley, and a few others have been working in secret over the past few months to push the right buttons with donors, start the negotiations with potential sponsors, talk extensively with athletics, alumni association people, foundation people, etc. We have reached out to people with influence in the community and specifically the sports community for support and collaboration. The results have been very positive. We are now in a position where we need to engage the loyal masses--meaning you.

The most important thing is for everyone who ever marched with a block M on his or her uniform, or played an instrument in the Barn or Mariucci (old or new), to know about the trouble the band is in.

The second most important thing is for those same people to know, is that for once, the Band Alumni Society is attempting to do something about it. This is why I, with the latest iteration of the Band Alumni Society council, unanimously passed and founded a campaign, which you can read about at www.skiumah.org.

From the data we’ve gathered even early on, sponsors and donors alike have gotten behind the idea of Marching Band away game travel as a vehicle to kick off and support this fundraising and sponsorship effort over the years to come. Away game road trips will enable sponsors to better penetrate markets outside of Minnesota and reach a larger group of people through TV and radio coverage partnerships. The media then in turn has ties back to the athletic bands through relationships that are currently growing. Road trips also help us engage with alumni and potential donors who have moved away from Minnesota.

Thus, together we will raise the money to send the Marching Band on an away football trip at least every other year starting with Nebraska this year, and in doing so we will enable the long-term goal of securing the athletic bands' future. If the away trip is a success, we will have a full-time development officer working to work sponsor and donor angles for years to come, thus enabling us to work towards endowing the athletic bands in some way, shape, or form.

Finally, we need to raise a fair amount of money as alumni in a grassroots manner in order to have additional leverage in securing sponsorships. It is the only way to demonstrate that this idea is something the alumni support. Bottom line, we need $30,000 in grassroots alumni support.

So I have to beg you to do two things that I am not good at asking for.
1. I need you to follow the instructions at www.skiumah.org and contribute at least $50.00 to the Engagement and Excellence Campaign. (Sponsors love titles like that, even if they sound dumb in a personal conversation)
2. I need you to spread this message like wildfire. This needs to be like an annoying chain email to anyone who you have contacts with that might care even a little bit. Feel free to copy and paste into whatever medium you'd like.

Spend some time in the coming days to reflect on the good times in college with your band mates. Think about stooge week, the parties, run cadence onto the field for pre-game, etc. Then get off your ass and help out. It’s our job to preserve those memories by helping the band of the future. You were once a part of something that was bigger than yourself. $50 and forwarding this to your friends is the least you can give back in return.

Ski-U-Mah. GILB.

-Chris “ballz” Matthews ’07
 

would really like to see the mods at gopherhole give this thread a permanent "sticky" to keep it at the top of both football and the basketball message boards on GH.

the marching band and pep band are a very important part of the U of M and the U of M athletic tradition. considering making a donation and doing your part to help them out.
 

This is exactly why the Athletic Department should have control of the marching band. School of Music people can envision a world without the band at sporting events, but the AD likely can't.
 


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Kind of sounds like you are fear mongering. No one in the state has ever heard of Mr. Myers and most couldn't care less about SOM. Conversely, UMMB is universally loved and many Gopher fans know Prof. Diem, if by name only. The minute he fires the Directors is the minute he also loses his job. Also, it's my unsubstantiated impression that Kirchoff (Director of Bands) is a big supporter of the marching band. I get the feeling Kill and Kaler are too. Could Myers diminish the band by underfunding? Yes, but that's always been the case for as long as I can remember (no away trips since '97 (?), bussing it to bowl games).

That said, I agree with two points. UMMB needs to leave SOM and join the athletics department. And an endowment is a fantastic idea. I've heard from Matt Clark that companies like 3M or Target would be interest, but they need the support of the masses first. Sort of like how companies donate to MPR based on membership drives. I just think a post like this sends the wrong message. We need a coalition of support, not make enemies of SOM. I'm sure SOM would be equally glad to be rid of UMMB as vice versa.
 

Nokomis, I agree with you 100% on your entire post.

I'll still stand by my opinion that visiting bands have no place at a road game, especially TCF Bank Stadium. Don't want the Budgie band here, ever. Ipso facto, I don't care if our band ever plays at a road game.
 

Nokomis, I agree with you 100% on your entire post.

I'll still stand by my opinion that visiting bands have no place at a road game, especially TCF Bank Stadium. Don't want the Budgie band here, ever. Ipso facto, I don't care if our band ever plays at a road game.

Sorry to disagree, but I think visiting bands make the college football experience much better and it is one of the many reasons why I like the college games so much more than the pro's. I say, bring in as many bands as possible and let our band go on trips as well. It is not only better for us fans that love college bands, but more importantly, it's a better college experience for the kids in the bands.
 



I'll still stand by my opinion that visiting bands have no place at a road game, especially TCF Bank Stadium. Don't want the Budgie band here, ever. Ipso facto, I don't care if our band ever plays at a road game.
Have to disagree as well. Visiting bands add to the experience, especially if the Gopher band ever starts going on the road again. The most heated rivalries in college FB have visiting bands. The only problem is that the Gopher band isn't on of them right now.
 

Nokomis, I agree with you 100% on your entire post.

I'll still stand by my opinion that visiting bands have no place at a road game, especially TCF Bank Stadium. Don't want the Budgie band here, ever. Ipso facto, I don't care if our band ever plays at a road game.

often agree with your sentiments, but i have to say you are wrong here. specifically, the second part of your post does not really have anything to do with what the OP was about. the U of M marching band and pep bands are in danger of being underfunded and dismantled over time by the school of music and it's music snob administrator(s).

therefore, it is very important that gopher sports fans (of all gopher sports) step up now and show their support to the U of M marching band and pep bands through the means that were noted in the original post of this thread.

the threats to the U of M marching band and pep bands are real. it is not fear mongering as nokomis wrongly called it. he is letting the school of music administrators off the hook way too easy here when it comes to their treatment of the U of M marching band and pep band over the years.

sorry highwayman, i just have to say that i think you are wrong here.
 

Start a petition online, like at Change.org. Believe me when I say this works. I would think 20,000 electronic signatures would do it from alumni and friends of the U.
 

often agree with your sentiments, but i have to say you are wrong here. specifically, the second part of your post does not really have anything to do with what the OP was about. the U of M marching band and pep bands are in danger of being underfunded and dismantled over time by the school of music and it's music snob administrator(s).

therefore, it is very important that gopher sports fans (of all gopher sports) step up now and show their support to the U of M marching band and pep bands through the means that were noted in the original post of this thread.

the threats to the U of M marching band are real. it is not fear mongering as nokomis wrongly called it. he is letting the school of music administrators off the hook way too easy here when it comes to their treatment of the U of M marching band and pep band.

sorry highwayman, i just have to say that i think you are wrong here.
I agree the marching band is underfunded. I don't believe it's on the brink of destruction, though. Where's the evidence? The band was just given a HUGE practice facility WITHIN the stadium. The basketball team can't even get a practice facility. The UMMB is the most visible vehicle for the performing arts at The U. No other student organization brings together such diverse membership. There is tremendous support for the band at The U and among alumni. That's why I feel a post like the OP is counter-productive. We don't need to sound like petulent children propping up a false enemy that noone's ever heard of in SOM to get our point across. Yes, the band is underfunded; an endowment is a fantastic idea. I love the push for the band becoming self-sufficient and not have to rely on either the Athletics Department or the School of Music. But stay on the high road, you'll likely get a better response from the general public and corporate doners.
 



Nokomis is even righter on his last post.

To clarify, I guess what I meant to say was that I DO NOT LIKE THE WISCONSIN BAND IN OUR STADIUM. Never will. Never. Never. If they never came back it would be too soon.

Their attendance only adds to the experience of the Wisconsin fans, who I don't want in our stadium, either.

Bowl games aside, having the Minnesota Band go to an away game only adds to the experience of the Gopher fans who are at that away game, and the band itself. Otherwise, I don't think the football team gives a cr@p, and I don't think the home audience gives a cr@p. Seriously.

That said, I would miss the band at The Bank. What do I think the chances are that would happen? About 1%. So I guess there's a chance.
 

Nokomis is even righter on his last post.

To clarify, I guess what I meant to say was that I DO NOT LIKE THE WISCONSIN BAND IN OUR STADIUM. Never will. Never. Never. If they never came back it would be too soon.

Their attendance only adds to the experience of the Wisconsin fans, who I don't want in our stadium, either.

Bowl games aside, having the Minnesota Band go to an away game only adds to the experience of the Gopher fans who are at that away game, and the band itself. Otherwise, I don't think the football team gives a cr@p, and I don't think the home audience gives a cr@p. Seriously.

That said, I would miss the band at The Bank. What do I think the chances are that would happen? About 1%. So I guess there's a chance.
Is crap censored here?

Edit: Apparently not.
 


I agree the marching band is underfunded. I don't believe it's on the brink of destruction, though. Where's the evidence? The band was just given a HUGE practice facility WITHIN the stadium. The basketball team can't even get a practice facility. The UMMB is the most visible vehicle for the performing arts at The U. No other student organization brings together such diverse membership. There is tremendous support for the band at The U and among alumni. That's why I feel a post like the OP is counter-productive. We don't need to sound like petulent children propping up a false enemy that noone's ever heard of in SOM to get our point across. Yes, the band is underfunded; an endowment is a fantastic idea. I love the push for the band becoming self-sufficient and not have to rely on either the Athletics Department or the School of Music. But stay on the high road, you'll likely get a better response from the general public and corporate doners.

So just because you have never heard of Mr. Myers he is a false enemy? I am not trying to be fear mongering, just passing along a message that was sent to me. Also not trying to make an enemy out of the School of Music or Mr. Myers, just relaying information from somebody that is in a position to know inside information and the facts of the situation. So if he says that it is something to be concerned about, it is probably something to be concerned about.
 

In IT for the ∫e ͯ;494358 said:
So just because you have never heard of Mr. Myers he is a false enemy? Before 9-11 many people never heard of Osama Bin Laden, does that mean he was a false enemy, I don't think so. I am not trying to be fear mongering, just passing along a message that was sent to me. Also not trying to make an enemy out of the School of Music or Mr. Myers, just relaying information from somebody that is in a position to know inside information and the facts of the situation. So if he says that it is something to be concerned about, it is probably something to be concerned about.
Um, you just used OBL in the sentence right after Mr. Myers. And then you say you aren't trying to fear monger. I hope you realize how ridiculous that looks.
 

I am not a band guy but I understand and value what marching bands bring to the gameday experience. Mrs. Bayfield and I thoroughly enjoy the music, pagentry(sp) and enthusiasm that the UMMB brings. And we also enjoy the visiting bands that are fortunate to have the backing and support from their university and fans to make a trip to TCF. There is no question that they add to the excitement and atmosphere.

The OP brings forth an important message. If we, the fans, want to see the UMMB be an integral part of our Saturdays, its
time for the public to pitch in. Its a joke that our band does not have the opportunity to travel. Nor be a part of community events like it was in the past. Less and less means less not more.

My sister and husband are huge OSU fans. We were enjoying a pregame brew last year in from of the Barn and I thought she was going to stroke out when the OSU band, led by Brutus, came marching towards TCF. And many other OSU fans were fired up as a result.

Its obvious OSU fans get it. So do Wisky fans when it comes to supporting their band and value the part that the band has on gameday at Camp Randall. Yet we don't have that at the UM.

I admit that I am disappointed with the gameday surrounding TCF. I expected much more after years of being beat down in the damn dome. But Maturi and his cohorts have failed to do their part in making it happen. Face painting, etc. and moving the band pre-game two hours prior to KO two years ago just doesn't get it done. Fans need to expect more and voice their opinions if they expect things to change for the better. And the band is a huge part of this. The band can be a huge force but they can't do it by themselves.

So yes, we have stepped up to the plate, be it a very, very, very modest contribution. And we will offer our support in other ways. We are going to Nebraska in November and it would make a huge statement to have the UMMB a part of the Minnesota crowd in Lincoln. And I would like to be able to react the same way my sister did when our band shows up.

I hope the original poster keeps this message alive and not get discouraged by a few. I appreciate that he/she and the group are doing a lot of groundwork and hard work behind the scenes to help improve things around TCF.
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Um, you just used OBL in the sentence right after Mr. Myers. And then you say you aren't trying to fear monger. I hope you realize how ridiculous that looks.

Yeah, a better example could have and should have been used. It was just the first one that popped in my head as I was watching a show on Pat Tillman and the wars in the Afghanistan. It was more to show that just because people have never heard of a person does not mean that they can't be an enemy. Actually if this information/Mr. Myers gets the Marching Band and the Pep Bands moved to be part of the Athletic Department than I would say Mr. Myers is more of a friend than an enemy as I think the athletic department is where the band belongs.
 

In IT for the ∫e ͯ;494358 said:
So just because you have never heard of Mr. Myers he is a false enemy? Before 9-11 many people never So
So just because you have never heard of Mr. Myers he is a false enemy? Before 9-11 many people never heard of Osama Bin Laden, does that mean he was a false enemy, I don't think so. I am not trying to be fear mongering, just passing along a message that was sent to me. Also not trying to make an enemy out of the School of Music or Mr. Myers, just relaying information from somebody that is in a position to know inside information and the facts of the situation. So if he says that it is something to be concerned about, it is probably something to be concerned about.

So this is just about the most offensive bullsh!t I have ever seen on this board. You are comparing the massive destruction caused by modern history's most heinous terrorist with the head of director of the School of Music? You are an IDIOT. You have just lost your argument, you SH!THEAD. Thousands of people were murdered by bin Laden, including someone I was acquainted with, and you diminish the loss of their lives by comparing their deaths to the loss of the Marching Band? You A$$HOLE!!! Thanks for ruining my day.
 

Thousands of people were murdered by bin Laden, including someone I was acquainted with, and you diminish the loss of their lives by comparing their deaths to the loss of the Marching Band? You A$$HOLE!!! Thanks for ruining my day.

The comment wasn't meant as a comparison between death of actual people and the loss of the band, it was more of a just because you haven't heard of someone/something doesn't mean that it can't be bad or an enemy. Sorry for your loss, I also lost 2 people as a result of the wars after 9/11, so it definitely wasn't trying to compare the two.
 

In IT for the Sex, I don't think I've ever met you but marched with Clark & Hanley. I suggest letting them do the gladhanding with doners. You're heart's in the right place, just tone down the hysterics.
 

take it easy guys. the OP has apologized for the OBL and myers comparison. he obviously didn't mean it in the way it "came out" and admits it was a poor choice of words.

that said, the original message that was posted in this thread should not be lost and it should not be trivialized by a couple people on here just because of the poor comparison he made. the issue involving the U of M marching band and pep band he originally posted about is bigger than how he may have written about it in this thread.

gopher fans: please do your part and please consider donating to the fund drive for the U of M marching band and pep band: http://www.skiumah.org/
 

As a 4-year member and current alumni of the UMMB, I will be doing my part and donating.
 

Personally, I get the impression that they are trying to stir up some emotion (fear mongering) to get money for the sole purpose of marching band away trips. This is something that people have wanted for a while. There is no *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#ing way they will dismantle the marching band. Saying so is just dumb. I appreciate the goal, away trips would be sweet, but don't use scumbag tactics.
 

Personally, I get the impression that they are trying to stir up some emotion (fear mongering) to get money for the sole purpose of marching band away trips. This is something that people have wanted for a while. There is no *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#ing way they will dismantle the marching band. Saying so is just dumb. I appreciate the goal, away trips would be sweet, but don't use scumbag tactics.
Agree with Gdizzle here. All you have to say is despite ever-shrinking budgets, the marching band continues to maintain the excellence fans have grown to appreciate. The band struggles, however, in upkeep of uniforms and instruments, paying directors a competitive salary, and hasn't taken a Big Ten away trip in decades. All these things directly contribute to student membership retention, which is essential to a great collegiate band. UMMB is looking to become self-sufficient and persue these goals independant from the AD or SOM. An endowment would enable us to attain this goal. Several local companies are interested but need to see a broad coalition of support before they make their contribution. A modest donation of $50 at www.skiumah.org could directly lead to a multi-million dollar endowment.

There, no attacks on SOM, no talk of the band's destruction, no OBL.
 

So ... will anyone be donating, or is the way the message conveyed enough to turn you off?
 

So ... will anyone be donating, or is the way the message conveyed enough to turn you off?

hopefully people can be "big enough" to not let the way one person (who is only one of many members of the U of M marching band and pep bands) approached and worded the topic be the sole reason to ignore the real need the U of M marching band and pep bands have. they need our help regardless of how it may have come off to some on here with his post about it. don't be petty just because of something one person wrote or how they wrote it.
 

hopefully people can be "big enough" to not let the way one person (who is only one of many members of the U of M marching band and pep bands) approached and worded the topic be the sole reason to ignore the real need the U of M marching band and pep bands have. they need our help regardless of how it may have come off to some on here with his post about it. don't be petty just because of something one person wrote or how they wrote it.
Comments on this thread are likely inconsequential to anyone's donation decision. I just hope IT doesn't use the same rhetoric when speaking with 3M and Target.
 




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