Louisville receives Notice of Allegations

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BleedGopher said:
So many scandals, hard to keep them all straight!

Though crazy how slow the NCAA moves. Pitino already sat a year out, coached a year or two in Greece and how is coaching Jelly.

Go Gophers!!
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Yeah, you have to wonder how it will work that Louisville could get sanctioned, while Rick could coach his little heart out at Iona.
 

Kansas administration standing 100% behind Self. As far as I know, Louisville and Arizona bosses are being more circumspect.
 

I would be pretty shocked if Kansas, L'Ville, Arizona got any sort of actual punishment. Look at UNC with the academic fraud. The NCAA is a money machine, you think they want to put 3 of their top 10-15 programs on blast and essentially let it be broadcast that corruption is rampant in their sports? No way. Thats why they have the SMU, MN, and GA Tech's of the world. They slap those programs with stuff because it wont kill the brand but also gives the illusion that they actually care and have everything on a level playing field.
 

leib0039 said:
I would be pretty shocked if Kansas, L'Ville, Arizona got any sort of actual punishment. Look at UNC with the academic fraud. The NCAA is a money machine, you think they want to put 3 of their top 10-15 programs on blast and essentially let it be broadcast that corruption is rampant in their sports? No way. Thats why they have the SMU, MN, and GA Tech's of the world. They slap those programs with stuff because it wont kill the brand but also gives the illusion that they actually care and have everything on a level playing field.
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#levelplayingfield
#excusesareforlosers
 



SelectionSunday said:
This is separate of the escort scandal.
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leib0039 said:
I would be pretty shocked if Kansas, L'Ville, Arizona got any sort of actual punishment. Look at UNC with the academic fraud. The NCAA is a money machine, you think they want to put 3 of their top 10-15 programs on blast and essentially let it be broadcast that corruption is rampant in their sports? No way. Thats why they have the SMU, MN, and GA Tech's of the world. They slap those programs with stuff because it wont kill the brand but also gives the illusion that they actually care and have everything on a level playing field.
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Would love it if everything was penalized for cheaters but it will never be a level playing field. Find a way to beat them, others have done it.
 


And Arizona? Crickets......
 

Let's give all these schools draconian sanctions: something like taking away 1 schollie for a couple years a 1 year NCAA ban, and no team summer international exhibition tour! That will show them.

I'm guessing the above will be the equivalent punishment these schools will receive, regardless of the violations.
 

LesBolstad said:
Let's give all these schools draconian sanctions: something like taking away 1 schollie for a couple years a 1 year NCAA ban, and no team summer international exhibition tour! That will show them.

I'm guessing the above will be the equivalent punishment these schools will receive, regardless of the violations.
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Have no idea how Arizona and Louisville dont get the hammer.
Their sins at least as egregious as gophers cheating scandal. Louisville especially - strippers and also payong recruits. Self as well is found to be dirty here but his actions can probably be more easily defended than the other two.
Beyond my comprehension how the ncaa can pull a unc with these schools as just too much evidence. That being said wouldn't be surprised if you are correct - slap on the wrist.

A couple other mind benders are 1) the extent to which these schools are standing behind their basketball programs 2) why Elon would hire Rick Pitino.
 
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Going forward what happens with Kansas, I think, will be the most telling in terms of how NCAA is viewed with regard to doling out penalties. KU has 5 Level-1 charges. That’s 3 more than any of the other schools that already have received NOA.

If both Kansas and Self get severe penalties (multi-season postseason ban, multi-year (at least 5?) show-cause for Self), we’ll know NCAA now means business. If not. ...
 
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SelectionSunday said:
Going forward what happens with Kansas, I think, will be the most telling in terms of how NCAA is viewed with regard to doling out penalties. KU has 5 Level-1 charges. That’s 3 more than any of the other schools that already have received NOA.

If both Kansas and Self get severe penalties (multi-season postseason ban, multi-year (at least 5?) show-cause for Self), we’ll know NCAA now means business. If not. ...
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I think this is correct and i think KU will get sanctions.
 

As was noted before on this board the NCAA is being sued in Federal Court by students who were sexually assaulted at NE and MIST and the schools covered it up.
They, for reasons known only to the students and their attorneys are suing the NCAA , not the schools, for ignoring the schools known bad behavior.
It seems like a long shot but if they win heads may roll at the NCAA and perhaps new blood could straighten out the NCAA's tendency for very uneven punishment.
Pitino is a bad person. He made a small fortune as a crooked coach, can retire in shame because he will carry a show cause for years.
I feel badly for his son who seems to have not been involved but surely knew what was going on.
 

Moonlight said:
Yeah, you have to wonder how it will work that Louisville could get sanctioned, while Rick could coach his little heart out at Iona.
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I think if Rick tries to show his face at Williams Arena again, he'll get booed.
 

builtbadgers said:
Scum program. Too bad as Pitino is a great basketball mind but cheated from Hawaii through UL.
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I’m sure people look at Minnesota and think we are a scum program thanks to two major recruiting scandals. At least Louisville has two national titles.
 

Marky Dit said:
I’m sure people look at Minnesota and think we are a scum program thanks to two major recruiting scandals. At least Louisville has two national titles.
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Where was the scandal in recruiting? Didn't we violate academic rules for active players? Unless you are indicating they were promised to have someone do their academics for them by the coaching staff prior to signing to play for the gophers, was that the case?
 

Marky Dit said:
I’m sure people look at Minnesota and think we are a scum program thanks to two major recruiting scandals. At least Louisville has two national titles.
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I do not think people think Minnesota is scum. In fact they hardly think of us at all.
 

Bad Gopher said:
I think if Rick tries to show his face at Williams Arena again, he'll get booed.
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I do not think he will get booed. This is a fan base that still cheers for Adrian Peterson for whipping a child. Besides it would be disrespectful to Richard to have the crowd booing his father even though there are more than a few boo's for Richard right now.
 

GopherBlood666 said:
Where was the scandal in recruiting? Didn't we violate academic rules for active players? Unless you are indicating they were promised to have someone do their academics for them by the coaching staff prior to signing to play for the gophers, was that the case?
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Musselman was a cheater for the ages and caused two years probation for the program by having over 100 violations and Haskins had people taking tests and writing papers for his players. And Clem was protected by McKinley Boston, then the Vice President of Athletics , who only reported to the President Mark Yudolf.
 

Marky Dit said:
Musselman was a cheater for the ages and caused two years probation for the program by having over 100 violations and Haskins had people taking tests and writing papers for his players. And Clem was protected by McKinley Boston, then the Vice President of Athletics , who only reported to the President Mark Yudolf.
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Those are not part of this program for over a generation. It is one of only i few things about the program that i am proud of, we are clean.
 

Marky Dit said:
Musselman was a cheater for the ages and caused two years probation for the program by having over 100 violations and Haskins had people taking tests and writing papers for his players. And Clem was protected by McKinley Boston, then the Vice President of Athletics , who only reported to the President Mark Yudolf.
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So how was the clem scandal related to recruiting?
 

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