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Went an X-mass party last night that had been cancelled due to one of our many blizzards. I got to give some serious crap to a Iowa grad about Floyd and b-ball.
Boy did that feel good! Go coach Kill.
 

These Iowa clowns will only get more silent moving forward.
That ship is taking on water and there best days are behind them.
 

PurplePride said:
These Iowa clowns will only get more silent moving forward.
That ship is taking on water and there best days are behind them.
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I read these kind of statements on here all the time. Iowa had a rough ending to the regular season, but still finished 8-5 with a win over a top 15 team in their bowl game. Good luck to coach Kill, but I'd finish a little higher than 3-9 before I started to talk about the demise of a different program.
 

I'm a Gopher fan for decades, but counting Ferentz out is stupid. The guy is resilient as heck, and a good coach.
 

If you think Iowa's best days are behind them you are kidding yourself. I'm a Gopher fan and I can tell you they will probably win our division next year. The last time I looked they were #24 in Rivals recruiting rankings, with a couple of 5 star players still interested in them.
 


Iowa is always better when little is expected of them. They were a darkhorse candidate for the national title this year before the season. They lose a ton of players and that pesky little drug house are the main reasons that people think they are heading the wrong way.
 

Rickman55 said:
If you think Iowa's best days are behind them you are kidding yourself. I'm a Gopher fan and I can tell you they will probably win our division next year. The last time I looked they were #24 in Rivals recruiting rankings, with a couple of 5 star players still interested in them.
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Win our division next year? I'd take that bet. They lost more than half their starters on both sides of the ball including their best players on each side (Stanzi, DJK, Clayborn, Sash, Ballard, Klug etc).

I'm not saying it is the end of the program but anybody that has watched Iowa knows that they go i in cycles rather than reloading (like OSU). They build up with young starters that struggle early and get better in year 2 or 3.

The recruiting ranking on Rivals will have virtually no impact on this season. That is something for 3-5 years down the road when those guys are playing regularly.
 

Rickman55 said:
If you think Iowa's best days are behind them you are kidding yourself. I'm a Gopher fan and I can tell you they will probably win our division next year. The last time I looked they were #24 in Rivals recruiting rankings, with a couple of 5 star players still interested in them.
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hahahababababaha. sorry, i had to get that out.
 

You are free to post whatever you want, but if you were alluding to the fact they might take a step back for one year, you might want to rethink how you structure a declarative sentence. The way you stated it sounded like their good days were over period.
 



I have a cousin who is a huge Iowa fan (a good guy but do not see him or communicate with him that often - he now lives overseas). He emailed me out of the blue yesterday and congratulaed me about the Gopher win last fall. His job takes him all over the world and it sounds like he was able to attend that game because he commented that some Gopher fans chanted "we hate Iowa" for 20 minutes after the game had ended. I had not heard that. He thought that it was classless. I think that all teams have a few classless fans and even then, chanting that after a game is not really a big deal. If his team lost and he stayed 20 minutes to hear that its sort of his problem. Anyway I thought that his comment was odd.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
I read these kind of statements on here all the time. Iowa had a rough ending to the regular season, but still finished 8-5 with a win over a top 15 team in their bowl game. Good luck to coach Kill, but I'd finish a little higher than 3-9 before I started to talk about the demise of a different program.
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3-9 and one of the wins was against Iowa.
Sorry, but Iowa is done. They will be lucky to finish over .500 next year and it will only get worse for years to come.
 

denguegopher said:
I have a cousin who is a huge Iowa fan (a good guy but do not see him or communicate with him that often - he now lives overseas). He emailed me out of the blue yesterday and congratulaed me about the Gopher win last fall. His job takes him all over the world and it sounds like he was able to attend that game because he commented that some Gopher fans chanted "we hate Iowa" for 20 minutes after the game had ended. I had not heard that. He thought that it was classless. I think that all teams have a few classless fans and even then, chanting that after a game is not really a big deal. If his team lost and he stayed 20 minutes to hear that its sort of his problem. Anyway I thought that his comment was odd.
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No, classles behavior on behalf of the Gopher fans would have occured had they chosen to attempt to steal some of Iowa's property. That would be classless. Also, porking a skank in the restroom. Also classless.
 

Since history tends to repeat itself I am now bracing to deal with watching the Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl in 2 years, since exactly 2 years ago we were all sure that BB had ruined the Wisc program and we were looking forward to watching the demise. Would love it to happen but I feel like we just jinxed ourselves.
 



Thank you

PurplePride said:
3-9 and one of the wins was against Iowa.
Sorry, but Iowa is done. They will be lucky to finish over .500 next year and it will only get worse for years to come.
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Last time I read a bold prediction on this board about Coach Ferentz and Iowa having nothing but bad times ahead (the prediction was that Ferentz would never again win 9 games in a season, and probably never win 8 games), Iowa immediately started on an upswing and won 20 games over the next two seasons, including a BCS bowl win. I can only hope your prediction brings the same good fortune. :drink:
 

MplsHawk said:
Last time I read a bold prediction on this board about Coach Ferentz and Iowa having nothing but bad times ahead (the prediction was that Ferentz would never again win 9 games in a season, and probably never win 8 games), Iowa immediately started on an upswing and won 20 games over the next two seasons, including a BCS bowl win. I can only hope your prediction brings the same good fortune. :drink:
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"After being great at everything, all he lacked was inexperience."
 

MplsHawk said:
Last time I read a bold prediction on this board about Coach Ferentz and Iowa having nothing but bad times ahead (the prediction was that Ferentz would never again win 9 games in a season, and probably never win 8 games), Iowa immediately started on an upswing and won 20 games over the next two seasons, including a BCS bowl win. I can only hope your prediction brings the same good fortune. :drink:
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You must not read this board that often. The bold predictions about Iowa heading in to the 2010 season were that they would lose to Minnesota.
 



As an Iowa fans, I don't quite understand the "hating" another school! I want to kick Minnesota, Wisc and the Illini in the ass when we play, but don't have a problem pulling for those teams when they are playing non big ten teams...okay, Zook makes it hard, but...

I was at the game in Minnesota in November and the Gopher deserved the win...Iowa was outplayed, outcoached and the Gophers just wanted that one more! Great stadium, btw...new, but has the look of an older college stadium. Someone forgot to install the heaters, however.

You are correct, Iowa loses a lot of solid senior players...Clayborn, Sash, Klug, Ballard, Greenwood, Hunter from the defense and DJK (the D stands for dumbass, btw), Riesner, Stanzi, Morse and Vandervelde from the O side...

Major injury at LB forced us to play a true and redshirt LB and that will give us some returning depth at LB. We return 3/5 of a OL and two other guys who started game...a true Fr RB who had 200+ yards in a bowl game and a backup QB who has started games. So Iowa won't be as talented as last year, but won't be chopped liver either. And Ferentz has had his best teams when expectations are low (2002,2004, 2008,2009).

BTW, I really like Coach Kill...give him a few years to recruit the right kind of athletes for UM and he will have some success.
 

"Cletus, someone is besmirching our beloved Hawkeyes' good name on this here porn box."

"Away to the interwebz, good sir! We must defend Iowa's e-honor!"
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
I read these kind of statements on here all the time. Iowa had a rough ending to the regular season, but still finished 8-5 with a win over a top 15 team in their bowl game. Good luck to coach Kill, but I'd finish a little higher than 3-9 before I started to talk about the demise of a different program.
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What exactly does the Gopher's record have to do with anything? Does a Northwestern hoops fan have to wait until they finally make the NCAA tourney before they are allowed to say that Iowa's basketball program is struggling? Can a Detroit Lions fan look at the Vikings and say that going from the NFC championship to last place in the division means that the team is heading in the wrong direction, or do they have to wait until the Lions make the playoffs before daring to comment on the status of the team?
 

Eli said:
As an Iowa fans, I don't quite understand the "hating" another school! I want to kick Minnesota, Wisc and the Illini in the ass when we play, but don't have a problem pulling for those teams when they are playing non big ten teams...okay, Zook makes it hard, but...

I was at the game in Minnesota in November and the Gopher deserved the win...Iowa was outplayed, outcoached and the Gophers just wanted that one more! Great stadium, btw...new, but has the look of an older college stadium. Someone forgot to install the heaters, however.

You are correct, Iowa loses a lot of solid senior players...Clayborn, Sash, Klug, Ballard, Greenwood, Hunter from the defense and DJK (the D stands for dumbass, btw), Riesner, Stanzi, Morse and Vandervelde from the O side...

Major injury at LB forced us to play a true and redshirt LB and that will give us some returning depth at LB. We return 3/5 of a OL and two other guys who started game...a true Fr RB who had 200+ yards in a bowl game and a backup QB who has started games. So Iowa won't be as talented as last year, but won't be chopped liver either. And Ferentz has had his best teams when expectations are low (2002,2004, 2008,2009).

BTW, I really like Coach Kill...give him a few years to recruit the right kind of athletes for UM and he will have some success.
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I don't understand fans who cheer for their rivals ever, unless it somehow directly helps their team.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don't understand fans who cheer for their rivals ever, unless it somehow directly helps their team.
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I'm going to be cheering for the Packers in the Super Bowl. A Green Bay win goes a long way to helping the Vikings lure key free agents.
 

The only positive I see for Iowa right now is they are doing a good job of recruiting this year, beyond that it seems to me like a program that will come back to earth a bit in the coming years, maybe until 2013 or so.
Their defense will no longer be stacked and loaded with experience like the past 2 years, add in the loss of Stanzi's horshoe up his rear and serious depth concerns at RB, sure Coker is good, but what happens when his running style gets him beat up going into Nov next year.
They lost 3 starting caliber runningbacks to off field issues, that loss of depth will bite them.

They won't be 3-9, but they shouldn't expect to walk through Big Ten season next year either, and they sure as heck aren't going to win the division.
I feel good about Floyd staying home for another year at least.
 

Ole said:
The only positive I see for Iowa right now is they are doing a good job of recruiting this year, beyond that it seems to me like a program that will come back to earth a bit in the coming years, maybe until 2013 or so.
Their defense will no longer be stacked and loaded with experience like the past 2 years, add in the loss of Stanzi's horshoe up his rear and serious depth concerns at RB, sure Coker is good, but what happens when his running style gets him beat up going into Nov next year.
They lost 3 starting caliber runningbacks to off field issues, that loss of depth will bite them.

They won't be 3-9, but they shouldn't expect to walk through Big Ten season next year either, and they sure as heck aren't going to win the division.
I feel good about Floyd staying home for another year at least.
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Its hard to predict, but I agree that there won't be any walk though the Big Ten next year. Of course there never is anyway. Last year, our OL was supposed to be a major weakness based on who left, but they ended up being a strength. Four of the five starters are back next year, so the offense could be OK if Vandy emerges at QB and other young RBs step up like Coker did. We will have to wait and see. More likely than not we will lose multiple RBs to injury as we frequently seem to do. On defense, we lost three of the five DL who started during the season, so that is a loss. We also lose two safeties with a combined seven years of starting experience. However, our corners return and will be more experienced, and we had to play a lot of young LBs due to injury in 2010 so we will gain experience there compared to the later part of the 2010 season. Iowa isn't exactly stacked, but we aren't exactly starting over either. I don't know how the rest of the teams in the conference stack up, so I can't predict how we will do overall.
 


Your cousin better not ever go to a college hockey game then...chants like that are pretty much the standard at any WCHA arena.


denguegopher said:
I have a cousin who is a huge Iowa fan (a good guy but do not see him or communicate with him that often - he now lives overseas). He emailed me out of the blue yesterday and congratulaed me about the Gopher win last fall. His job takes him all over the world and it sounds like he was able to attend that game because he commented that some Gopher fans chanted "we hate Iowa" for 20 minutes after the game had ended. I had not heard that. He thought that it was classless. I think that all teams have a few classless fans and even then, chanting that after a game is not really a big deal. If his team lost and he stayed 20 minutes to hear that its sort of his problem. Anyway I thought that his comment was odd.
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I'm not predicting that Iowa will win the Legends Division next year; however, it is certainly not out of the question for the Hawkeyes to end up at or near the top of the division. All the other teams in the division also have concerns/weaknesses. I would think that early predictions will have Michigan State and Nebraska as front-runners. While MSU has QB Kirk Cousins returning they lose their excellent linebacker (Greg Jones) and several other key defensive starters. They certainly took quite a beating in their bowl game. Nebraska will have a good defense, but I'm not sold on their offense and getting adjusted to a new conference may be difficult for the cornholers. Northwestern's QB Persa will be returning from a season ending injury. Michigan has a new coach, but the same old weak defense. Last, but not least, MN has new coach, new QB, and a relatively young defense so I wouldn't imagine even the most staunch Gopher supporters expect MN to contend for division supremacy. Therefore, the divisional winner may well be decided by a year-end match-up in Lincoln between Iowa and Nebraska.
 

MplsHawk said:
Its hard to predict, but I agree that there won't be any walk though the Big Ten next year. Of course there never is anyway. Last year, our OL was supposed to be a major weakness based on who left, but they ended up being a strength. Four of the five starters are back next year, so the offense could be OK if Vandy emerges at QB and other young RBs step up like Coker did. We will have to wait and see. More likely than not we will lose multiple RBs to injury as we frequently seem to do. On defense, we lost three of the five DL who started during the season, so that is a loss. We also lose two safeties with a combined seven years of starting experience. However, our corners return and will be more experienced, and we had to play a lot of young LBs due to injury in 2010 so we will gain experience there compared to the later part of the 2010 season. Iowa isn't exactly stacked, but we aren't exactly starting over either. I don't know how the rest of the teams in the conference stack up, so I can't predict how we will do overall.
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You lose more than most of the other teams in the conference, possibly the most in the conference. From the Legends you lose the most followed by MSU. MSU's big losses are Dell, Gantt, an all conference OL, and then Jones (former Big Ten DPOY), a 2nd team All Big Ten LB, and Rucker in the secondary. Northwestern's biggest loss is their top LB; Nebraska loses their top WR and CB but they bring back a DE, LB and CB that could vie for All Big Ten and most of their offense returns; Minnesota loses virtually nothing on Defense but takes some hits to the OL (3 starters and at QB) and Michigan loses virtually nothing...not that Minnesota or Michigan were very good.
 

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