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upnorthkid said:
Don’t have the Athletic, but would be curious to what “data” theyre giving them that they don’t already have that will change their betting line strategy in any meaningful way
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I had the same thought. I would think the books are way ahead on that type of stuff.
 

What do you mean by "they already have"?

Someone at each stadium has to record the official game stats. So from that original source, I don't know how it gets out.
 

I think it is more about in game live betting that they are looking at doing? Official stats for those purposes and not just setting game lines. Will be interesting to see where this goes.
 


A lot of the sports betting deals seem ... weird / I don't quite get what the deal really is outside advertising that doesn't happen a great deal.

Raises a lot of eyebrows for me...

PAC-12 already had executives calling into the replay booth to influence a review, now what?
 






If a couple years from now I tune into a MAC game on some channel and, because of this deal, a little box pops up on the screen saying something like "Bet $10 on the next team to score, win $10!" ... do I click it?

Hmmm ... I don't think I do. But maybe?
 

upnorthkid said:
Don’t have the Athletic, but would be curious to what “data” theyre giving them that they don’t already have that will change their betting line strategy in any meaningful way
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Yeah....I don't like the sounds of this. Game stats are readily available. What is 'Genius Sports' going to be getting that isn't available to the public? Not available injury information possibly?
 


MaxyJR1 said:
I think it is more about in game live betting that they are looking at doing? Official stats for those purposes and not just setting game lines. Will be interesting to see where this goes.
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So what a coach’s tendency is going into half or running clock vs scoring more when up big? Again that’s all available if you watch the games. I guess maybe this is smaller books who don’t have the manpower looking to make money on MACtion who play games at weird times so in game betting will be more rampant from degenerates like me (typically pretty easy money on midweek MAC games as it seems those teams don’t get as heavily reviewed/bet on, do you can sharp the lines on them as well as on player props)?
 



Zoinks! Genius Sports stock took a dump...I rode them up as a SPAC from $12 to around 20.

Now $5 will get you a share, and a few cents left over to get yourself something nice.
 

From the article:
Official league data can flow into gaming operators' systems faster than cheaper unofficial data, and at least a couple of state laws require the use of official data for live or in-game betting. Accuracy and timeliness are key reasons for sportsbooks to pursue official data.
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Sure. That makes sense -- if state law requires the source of the data that feeds into the betting systems to be "official", then by law you've just created a monopoly.

And indeed, you would not want it to be legal for fraudulent data to be presented to a potential bettor.

Would think every state would want such a law, then.
 



upnorthkid said:
So what a coach’s tendency is going into half or running clock vs scoring more when up big? Again that’s all available if you watch the games. I guess maybe this is smaller books who don’t have the manpower looking to make money on MACtion who play games at weird times so in game betting will be more rampant from degenerates like me (typically pretty easy money on midweek MAC games as it seems those teams don’t get as heavily reviewed/bet on, do you can sharp the lines on them as well as on player props)?
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rowdaboat said:
Anybody betting regularly on MAC football is pretty high up the degen chart
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The truth is that the sports gamblers who do the best tend to bet a lot of obscure games. It's a pretty common strategy to pick a league like MAC or some other midmajor and watch every single game. The theory is that unlike the Big 10 or SEC, there aren't enough bets flowing in to water down whatever advantage you might have from being a MAC football guru.

That and the skeptics would argue, it's easier to buy off mid major athletes.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
The truth is that the sports gamblers who do the best tend to bet a lot of obscure games. It's a pretty common strategy to pick a league like MAC or some other midmajor and watch every single game. The theory is that unlike the Big 10 or SEC, there aren't enough bets flowing in to water down whatever advantage you might have from being a MAC football guru.

That and the skeptics would argue, it's easier to buy off mid major athletes.
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Yeah when I was doing basketball more frequently focused a lot on American East, ASun, Big South, and MAAC. Teams are absolute shit to try to watch but first half under with Kennesaw or h2h between Fairfield Marist NJIT Hartford and a few others exotic under were consistent
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
The truth is that the sports gamblers who do the best tend to bet a lot of obscure games. It's a pretty common strategy to pick a league like MAC or some other midmajor and watch every single game. The theory is that unlike the Big 10 or SEC, there aren't enough bets flowing in to water down whatever advantage you might have from being a MAC football guru.

That and the skeptics would argue, it's easier to buy off mid major athletes.
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this. midweek maction is always full of good plays. teams get less pub, views, etc. and so the background gets less looked into and you can get into the teams skill levels better, rather than just looking at the boxes like an average bettor will do. it's also why books will say they have some players who are very in tune to individual teams as well.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
The truth is that the sports gamblers who do the best tend to bet a lot of obscure games. It's a pretty common strategy to pick a league like MAC or some other midmajor and watch every single game. The theory is that unlike the Big 10 or SEC, there aren't enough bets flowing in to water down whatever advantage you might have from being a MAC football guru.

That and the skeptics would argue, it's easier to buy off mid major athletes.
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I have a buddy who swears by WNBA and ivy league basketball. Total degenerate, lol
 

The betting sites usually set the spread in college football, I do not know about basketball, by using Sagarin.
So early in the season before a lot of data are avaailable is the best time to find anomalies in the spread.
If Sagarin does not rank MAC teams then inside information about injuries etc etc could be very valuable. That info could come from the trainers or student managers after some $$ changed hands.
In fact, since the NCAA does not mandate a truthful injury report like the NFL does inside info from the sources I mentined above could be very valuable.
I gamble at the race track but that is entertainment, the only serious gambling I have done is playing poker.
 


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