All Things Nathan Reuvers Recruitment Thread - UPDATED: wisconsin commit

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GophersInIowa said:
Good grief, where did anyone say they were certain he would be good or bad in 3 or 4 years, or that anything was a fact? You keep criticizing things that aren't even being said.
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Well he is old
Anyways best of luck to Reuvers, if he was trying to do damage control with that interview, I don't think he moved the needle either way, but if he says that the gophs didn't make him feel as wanted I'll take his word for it.
 

Sim, Theo, and contributions.

Sims will not need 30-40 lbs. He is not a center, he is a combo forward, he has legit sf skills as well. Think Dan Coleman, what was he 220? Most teams in the B1G are lucky to have 1 post scorer. If ours is Murphy the next 3 years, then someone like John just needs to rebound and play physical defense, two skills he is known for. Murphy squares up and scores from 10 feet and in, he doesn't necessarily post with his back to the basket.

Reuvers has more "skill" but is much weaker then Theo, and possibly Sims. Reuvers will not play much as a freshmen because of lack of strength, not skill. Reuvers has skills similar to what Leuer and Rickert had.


mnhoopboy said:
It will be several years before any of these kids make a meaningful impact on the next level. We aren't talking 5 star instant impact players here. Both Sims and John are just as much projects as Reuvers is. I'd even argue that they are bigger projects. John is extremely raw on the offensive and nowhere near ready to produce at that level offensively and Sims will need about 30-40 lbs. The only instant impact kid in the 2017 class is Trent. I would say Reuvers the second most skilled player in the MN 2017 class. And he won't play center at Wisky. Prototypical stretch 4 in that system and he has the skillset to flourish.
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Honest to god, I can't quibble with Reuvers' decision at all or his reasoning. He made a reasoned decision, and I can't say I'd have made a different one under the circumstances. Let's be honest, signing with the Gophers at this point would be a huge leap of faith. The program is a bit of a mess, to put it lightly.
 

Bad Gopher said:
Honest to god, I can't quibble with Reuvers' decision at all or his reasoning. He made a reasoned decision, and I can't say I'd have made a different one under the circumstances. Let's be honest, signing with the Gophers at this point would be a huge leap of faith. The program is a bit of a mess, to put it lightly.
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Especially if your only insight is the media.

Good for Reuvers, he looks the part of a 4 year Badger basketball player, I'm sure he will do well and make us scratch our head for 4 years why we didn't take him. I could also see him suiting up for the Gophers and making us complain about how he doesn't play defense, rebound or score enough in the post for the Gophers.

He fits the Badger mold perfectly, I just wish we would quit asking him why he didn't choose the Gophers, we are very unlikely to get the whole truth. I wish he would just talk about what the Badgers did rather than what the Gophers didn't do, he is a Badger now.
 

Winasota Gopher said:
Especially if your only insight is the media.

Good for Reuvers, he looks the part of a 4 year Badger basketball player, I'm sure he will do well and make us scratch our head for 4 years why we didn't take him. I could also see him suiting up for the Gophers and making us complain about how he doesn't play defense, rebound or score enough in the post for the Gophers.

He fits the Badger mold perfectly, I just wish we would quit asking him why he didn't choose the Gophers, we are very unlikely to get the whole truth. I wish he would just talk about what the Badgers did rather than what the Gophers didn't do, he is a Badger now.
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Seems like the two go hand in hand, the Badgers seemed to show him more love than the gophers did. I don't blame him, and as I've said earlier if we land John, Sims or someone out of state that is similar, it won't matter. Actually with all the bull**** going on, an out of stater might be easier to bring in with this class
 


bemidjigopher said:
Seems like the two go hand in hand, the Badgers seemed to show him more love than the gophers did. I don't blame him, and as I've said earlier if we land John, Sims or someone out of state that is similar, it won't matter. Actually with all the bull**** going on, an out of stater might be easier to bring in with this class
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I agree, I'm just saying, talk about what the Badgers did and why you like their program. No reason to continue piling on the Gopher program (I know he's answering the questions asked).
 

Winasota Gopher said:
Especially if your only insight is the media. Good for Reuvers, he looks the part of a 4 year Badger basketball player, I'm sure he will do well and make us scratch our head for 4 years why we didn't take him. I could also see him suiting up for the Gophers and making us complain about how he doesn't play defense, rebound or score enough in the post for the Gophers. He fits the Badger mold perfectly, I just wish we would quit asking him why he didn't choose the Gophers, we are very unlikely to get the whole truth. I wish he would just talk about what the Badgers did rather than what the Gophers didn't do, he is a Badger now.
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We disagree there. The more negative things he can say about the Gophers the better. This is sports, it's entertainment. Make it entertaining Nate! As a fan of the Gophers and hater of Badgers, nothing would be more entertaining than a back and forth that may include Nate saying the Gophers are a porn producer. That's gold.
 

Winasota Gopher said:
I agree, I'm just saying, talk about what the Badgers did and why you like their program. No reason to continue piling on the Gopher program (I know he's answering the questions asked).
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I hope he has someone telling him this exact thing. Whether Gard or his parents. It's just not a good look for a 17 year old. I'm sure the media is trapping him into these comments to some degree, however.


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bc2211 said:
I hope he has someone telling him this exact thing. Whether Gard or his parents. It's just not a good look for a 17 year old. I'm sure the media is trapping him into these comments to some degree, however.
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According to who? I'm sure the skunk fans love it.

Is it annoying to hear for us as Gopher fans? Sure, but guess what we'll get the chance to play and beat his team for 4 or 5 (if he redshirts) years. I'm sure if we swiped a recruit from Wisconsin and he took digs at their program everyone here would be singing his praises, and rightfully so.
 

Bad Gopher said:
Honest to god, I can't quibble with Reuvers' decision at all or his reasoning. He made a reasoned decision, and I can't say I'd have made a different one under the circumstances. Let's be honest, signing with the Gophers at this point would be a huge leap of faith. The program is a bit of a mess, to put it lightly.
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He made a fine decision and he will be a good fit. To finish off his choice he might have been well advised to leave the bashing of the Gopher program out of it. That was not classy or appropriate. What goes around will come around.
 

bga1 said:
He made a fine decision and he will be a good fit. To finish off his choice he might have been well advised to leave the bashing of the Gopher program out of it. That was not classy or appropriate. What goes around will come around.
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Exactly.
 

The Lorax said:
According to who? I'm sure the skunk fans love it.

Is it annoying to hear for us as Gopher fans? Sure, but guess what we'll get the chance to play and beat his team for 4 or 5 (if he redshirts) years. I'm sure if we swiped a recruit from Wisconsin and he took digs at their program everyone here would be singing his praises, and rightfully so.
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Well I'm also a badger fan and have been since I was a kid. So at least not all badger fans love it. I also think that your assumption that all badger fans love this attitude might be influenced by the little brother syndrome many Minnesota fans have towards Wisconsin. The wisco fans I know won't think twice about this, nor do they read the strib.


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The Lorax said:
According to who? I'm sure the skunk fans love it.

Is it annoying to hear for us as Gopher fans? Sure, but guess what we'll get the chance to play and beat his team for 4 or 5 (if he redshirts) years. I'm sure if we swiped a recruit from Wisconsin and he took digs at their program everyone here would be singing his praises, and rightfully so.
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Not everyone. I remember back in 2013 before our football game against Michigan, a player made a comment about how Devin Gardner wasn't a great passer or something, and the general board reaction seemed to be that it was bulletin board material, player should have kept his stupid mouth shut, now they're gonna beat us twice as bad!

Some would definitely love it, but I'd guess you'd find at least as many people who would tell him to shut his yap.

bc2211 said:
Well I'm also a badger fan and have been since I was a kid. So at least not all badger fans love it. I also think that your assumption that all badger fans love this attitude might be influenced by the little brother syndrome many Minnesota fans have towards Wisconsin. The wisco fans I know won't think twice about this, nor do they read the strib.


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Some of them read Gopherhole religiously though.
 

Bad Gopher said:
Honest to god, I can't quibble with Reuvers' decision at all or his reasoning. He made a reasoned decision, and I can't say I'd have made a different one under the circumstances. Let's be honest, signing with the Gophers at this point would be a huge leap of faith. The program is a bit of a mess, to put it lightly.
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So how would you feel if Amir Coffey left the program?

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Amir Coffey is the face of Gopher Basketball Future. The future is bright and it won't take long. We need players that fit with his style of play. I'm guessing Pitino didn't see that in Nate.
 

diehard said:
Amir Coffey is the face of Gopher Basketball Future. The future is bright and it won't take long. We need players that fit with his style of play. I'm guessing Pitino didn't see that in Nate.
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Certainly hope you are right. One thing...I would hope most Gopher fans have realistic expectations for Amir, especially in his first year. A line like 11 pts, 5 rbs, 3 asts per game as a freshman would be fantastic. I feel like some Gopher fans would see that as a disappointment based on what I hear some say. Just remember he's not a top 10 recruit that can carry a team to the promised land right away. I would still expect Mason and Murphy (or possibly Springs) to be our leading scorers next year. I looked up the last 7 or 8 guys who had the same ranking as Amir on Rivals and none of them were even regular starters as freshmen. If he starts on a regular basis and averages double figures scoring that would be great. He'll come along and be a stud by his junior year, but let's not get disappointed with him if he isn't lighting the world on fire in year 1.

As far as Reuvers goes (since this is a Reuvers thread), I was never really that impressed with him and would rather have John anyways. Maybe that is why Pitino "didn't recruit him hard", but then again I have no idea what Pitino thinks about him. As long as we get John (and I think there is a good chance we do) then I'm fine losing out on Reuvers.
 

What did he really say that was bashing the gophers program? He said he didn't feel like he'd be a great fit with the culture of the program, which is tough to argue with some of the current events. He said the gophers have some issues, which coming off I think the worst B10 record in the history of the program is also hard to argue. He said Pitino didn't recruit him as hard as Gard, which could be true. The Badgers have far fewer offers extended to prospects, so they had a lot more eggs in the Reuvers basket. The media also asked him for all the reasons he didn't pick the Gophers, which is a tough spot to put a kid in. He also said he thinks the Gophers have the right people coming in and are heading in the right direction, but he didn't have the time to see how it (or Pitino) turns out.

I think he's a good kid and a good prospect and some people are trying to make it out like he shredded the program when really that's not the case.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
I think he's a good kid and a good prospect and some people are trying to make it out like he shredded the program when really that's not the case.
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Since I have way more of a life than to hang out other schools' fan sites, I don't know, but I can't believe it's that much different when a local kid chooses another BIG school. Given its Wisconsin, there's not that much angst. Some skeptical views on his talent. More on reading of tea leaves as far as what Pitino saw or for some another reason to think Pitino will be toast within a year.
 

Mulligan said:
Since I have way more of a life than to hang out other schools' fan sites, I don't know, but I can't believe it's that much different when a local kid chooses another BIG school. Given its Wisconsin, there's not that much angst. Some skeptical views on his talent. More on reading of tea leaves as far as what Pitino saw or for some another reason to think Pitino will be toast within a year.
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Nah, a badgers fan would never exaggerate comments made here.
 

A lot of banter about a three star player who would be red shirted first year and sit bench second year then see playing time. While it is important to have these type of players this is an average recruit. We didn't see a game changer leave MN for WI. We need to restore order, get a strong inside rebounder and defender like John and another scorer and we will be just fine.
 

diehard said:
Amir Coffey is the face of Gopher Basketball Future. The future is bright and it won't take long. We need players that fit with his style of play. I'm guessing Pitino didn't see that in Nate.
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Reuvers must have really changed his game since March 10th, when Pitino offered him a scholarship to play basketball on his team.
 

Unless someone here can read minds, or is a member of the Gopher coaching staff, we just don't know what Pitino really thought about Reuvers.

Did Pitino think he is a game-changing talent? probably not, or he would have recruited him harder.

I suspect that, after doing his evaluation, Pitino put Reuvers into that mid-level category: has the potential to become a decent player, but not the #1 priority for our recruiting efforts.

Of course, we don't know for sure who the #1 priority is, and the ultimate question becomes this: if Pitino cannot get his #1 or #2 priority, will he come to regret that he didn't make a bigger effort to land Reuvers. (of course, he may have gotten a wiff that Reuvers was leaning toward WI, and just decided it wasn't worth the effort.)
 

There many months before the what ifs become what are.
What is pretty certain now is that Pitino is recruiting to save his job.
 


Pitino did not think he was a three star. He would have taken a committment from NR. Gophers recruited him very hard just not as hard as GARD and that is understandable as he likely was luke warm as he was looking for programs in better shape. Most people felt it was ND or UW all the way. Every coach outside K, Self and Calipari lose more kids than they get. Plenty of fine players available who may really want the U. But that is no reason to QUESTION NR's ability. Gard loves this kid and he has a much larger upside than Brusewitz.
 

XMan said:
A lot of banter about a three star player who would be red shirted first year and sit bench second year then see playing time. While it is important to have these type of players this is an average recruit. We didn't see a game changer leave MN for WI. We need to restore order, get a strong inside rebounder and defender like John and another scorer and we will be just fine.
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Pretty much described Kaminsky didn't you?
 

builtbadgers said:
Pitino did not think he was a three star. He would have taken a committment from NR. Gophers recruited him very hard just not as hard as GARD and that is understandable as he likely was luke warm as he was looking for programs in better shape. Most people felt it was ND or UW all the way. Every coach outside K, Self and Calipari lose more kids than they get. Plenty of fine players available who may really want the U. But that is no reason to QUESTION NR's ability. Gard loves this kid and he has a much larger upside than Brusewitz.
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How can you say the Gophers recruited him very hard when Reuvers himself is quoted as saying that they didn't? You try to spin it however it pleases you I guess.
 


Winasota Gopher said:
Every 3 star redshirted big is an nba lottery pick?
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x2 The kid did not have to go negative on the U. What he said is true but why go there? Johns has been our number one recruit in this class for a long time. We lose him and I will be very upset.
 

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