All Things 2023-2024 Minnesota Timberwolves In-Season Thread

Jrue Holiday goes to the Celtics. Jimmy Butler calls for FBI to investigate?

"The Portland Trail Blazers are trading guard Jrue Holiday to the Boston Celtics, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

The Celtics are trading Robert Williams III, Malcolm Brogdon, a protected 2024 first-round pick acquired from the Golden State Warriors and the team's own 2029 unprotected first-rounder to the Blazers, according to sources."


That's a scary good fit.
 

so, if I have this right -
Wolves are playing two pre-season games vs Dallas in Abu Dhabi.

1st game at 11:00am Thursday and 2nd game at 11:00am Saturday. Both games on NBA TV.

I am not making this up. someone tweeted a picture of Rudy Gobert riding a camel. maybe when the Wolves win the NBA title, they can bring the camel over for the victory parade.
 

Yes, when celebrities go to Abu Dhabi they get on camels. Not sure how that helps with tourism but there you have it. Dad worked for many years in Arabic countries. Never had a single good word to say about camels.;)

 

Wolves win 111-99. Edwards didn't play with a "leg problem". Alexander-Walker played 22 minutes, Gobert played 23, Milton 20 everybody else, and 15 Wolves got on the court, played 10-19 minutes.

18 Mavericks played. Hardy got 20 minutes, everybody else played less than 18. Luca was on the floor for 17 minutes and Kyrie 14.

They play again Saturday morning at 11:00.

 




I watched both DAL games and came away with these impressions knowing full well they were only exhibition games:

1. The offensive movement with and without the ball was excellent. Very unselfish.

2. KAT and Gobert looked 100% healthy and really played with an intensity that has been lacking at times.

3. Defensive effort and scheme was very coordinated both inside and on the perimeter. Gobert looked five (5) years younger and McDaniel will make an All Defensive Team this season. Even KAT was blocking shots.

4. Keeping Naz Reid at that price was incredible. All three (3) of our C's will play significant time together. Naz and KAT both looked very comfortable next to Gobert.

5. This Edwards guy might have a chance to make the team. The game seems to have really slowed down for him. If he gets the calls that other stars do, he'll average close to 30 points per game this year.

6. Shake, Anderson and NAW are great "glue" guys that also transition in with our starters very well.

7. Miller probably won't contribute much this year but the kid just oozes NBA talent. Like McDaniel, he's athletic, can shoot the 3, handle the rock, guard multiple positions...and needs to add 10-15 pounds of muscle. Great future!

As for DAL, Cuban would sell his soul to have any of our three (3) big guys. There isn't a more poorly constructed roster in the NBA. No interior presence of any kind, not a whiff of defense and if they're not hitting 3's, they're toast. I'd be stunned if they finish higher than 10th in the West and Luka might decide it's time to take his talents elsewhere.

Go Wolves!!!
 

Per Shooter:

Don’t print that​

>> Pssst: Pending Timberwolves-Lynx owners Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore have a Dec. 31 deadline to pay a remaining sum of more than $500 million of the $1.5 billion purchase price, but people who know say it’s unlikely they will meet the deadline.

It’s still assumed the deal will eventually get done, but an extension might be needed. Owner Glen Taylor has already granted the pair one extension.

Rodriguez, at Target Field as Fox TV analyst for the Twins-Blue Jays playoff series last week, told the Pioneer Press the sale of the team is on schedule. That’s the same thing he tells Taylor, who regardless will retain 20 percent of ownership.

Rodriguez and Lore have been lax in communicating within scheduled timeframes for the sale. If the sale were to fall through, and there are rumors that it might, Taylor would retain controlling ownership.


Howl Wolves!!
 

Wolves 114 beat Bulls 105 to end the exhibition slate. Minnesota was 4-0 in the preseason.

They open the regular season up in Toronto next Wednesday. Followed by home game against Miami and then down in Atlanta before coming home to host Denver, Utah and Boston. Quite a Murderers Row to start the season.

 
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Wolves 114 beat Bulls 105 to end the exhibition slate. Minnesota was 4-0 in the preseason.

They open the regular season up in Toronto next Wednesday. Followed by road games in Miami and Atlanta before coming home to host Denver, Utah and Boston. Quite a Murderers Row to start the season.

Miami is at home.

The only question is will Jimmy Butler chicken out against the wolves and not play them yet again.
 

Miami is at home.

The only question is will Jimmy Butler chicken out against the wolves and not play them yet again.

True. Sorry about that.

 

Healthy again, Timberwolves’ Jordan McLaughlin looks like the player of old​


It was quintessential Jordan McLaughlin.

Naz Reid had just buried a 3-point shot early in the fourth quarter of the Timberwolves’ preseason game in New York on Saturday. The Knicks’ ensuing inbounds pass following Reid’s long-range basket was slightly lackadaisical.

And, sure enough, McLaughlin made them pay. He jumped the pass to steal the inbounds. McLaughlin then started a possession flush with various actions and a lot of ball movement. It all ended in the point guard splashing a 3-pointer.

The play lined up perfectly with Timberwolves coach Chris Finch’s training camp assessment of the floor general: the point guard looks like the McLaughlin of old.

“He definitely does. He’s playing at a super-high level. He’s lost some weight, his body fat is down, he’s coming into camp in great shape,” Finch said. “He’s always been a catalyst for that second unit when he’s healthy, playing at a high level. He’s a plus-minus driver. Yeah, he looks really good right now.”


Howl Wolves!!
 

Wolves bigger than ever after Naz Reid, Jaden McDaniels growth spurts​

There's no debating the heights of Gobert and Towns, but it definitely sounds like the team website is shortchanging Reid and McDaniels. This is what Jon Krawczysnki of The Athletic said Tuesday during his guest appearance on KFAN radio in the Twin Cities.

"I looked at Naz yesterday and he seemed taller to me, so I asked him, after the little scrum I said, 'Hey, Naz, are you taller?' And he told me that he didn't feel taller but that he measured taller, at six-ten. He measured at six-eight last year. He says he doesn't really believe it, I buy it a little bit. But Jaden McDaniels is six-ten and three-quarters or almost six-eleven with the hair I think."


Howl Wolves!!
 



Per Shama:

The deadline is tomorrow for NBA contract extensions like the one the Timberwolves are trying to make with Jaden McDaniels. Owner Glen Taylor told Sports Headliners he isn’t sure if there is time to “cover the difference” between what the Wolves are offering and McDaniels wants prior to the deadline. Taylor said there is no questioning the Wolves value McDaniels, but a deal might have to wait until after the season.

“I don’t know where he’s really at,” Taylor said. “So far they have not been flexible, and I think we’ve tried to meet what we think is fair.”

That offer might be something like four years, $100 million for the 23-year-old versatile forward who the Wolves like a lot, including because he can guard at least three positions. “He’s gotta play this year, whether we sign him or don’t sign him,” Taylor said. “I mean it’s in his interest to play really well, and certainly at that point he’ll go out and try to get offers from other teams. …We have a right to match them (other team’s offers). I don’t know that it’s going to cost us any more that way than if we do it now. We’d like him to do it now because we’d like him to stay here for the long run, and we’d like him to know that.”


Howl Wolves!!
 

to clarify what Taylor said in that word salad -

If the Wolves do not sign McDaniels to an extension by the deadline today, he will be a restricted free agent after the season, and the Wolves will have a right to match any offers he receives. I've heard he's looking for something in the vicinity of at least 5 years/$130-million or so.

the question is how the Wolves make that fit with the cap.
 



Per The Athletic -

  • The Timberwolves haven’t been a tax team in almost 20 years, and are staring at serious luxury tax payments moving forward.
 




All about rebounding

The Wolves have the personnel to be one of the best half-court defensive teams in the league. Their issues on defense were two-fold a season ago — their height led to transition for opponents if the Wolves didn't put an emphasis on getting back, and they didn't close out possessions at a high enough rate. Their defensive rebounding percentage of .703 was 26th..

More structured offense

Finch likes to have a free-flowing, unpredictable offense, and that worked two seasons ago before Gobert arrived. But one of the conclusions Finch came to in the offseason was that the Wolves needed a more structured approach with more play calls, especially at the beginning of possessions, to get into the offense..

More three-pointers

Something Finch wants to see from the offense is a higher volume of three-point attempts. The Wolves attempted 33.3 per game (15th) a season ago after they were first in attempts two seasons ago. Towns' presence on the floor should help with this, because not only will he space the floor and allow the offense to function at a higher level, he will take around six threes per game..


 

Soooooooo much better than his 2022.
Unfortunately, 2022 will carry over to 2029.

Connelly gets big credit for the DLo trade. Signing Ant and Jaden were expected. Now he has a luxury tax team with limited draft capital and under capitalized potential majority owners. Lore and ARod arent exactly Steve Ballmer. The real challenge begins.

In the meantime, this is the most talented Wolves roster since 2003-2004, by far. Let's see what Finch can do with it.
 

Unfortunately, 2022 will carry over to 2029.

Connelly gets big credit for the DLo trade. Signing Ant and Jaden were expected. Now he has a luxury tax team with limited draft capital and under capitalized potential majority owners. Lore and ARod arent exactly Steve Ballmer. The real challenge begins.

In the meantime, this is the most talented Wolves roster since 2003-2004, by far. Let's see what Finch can do with it.
I remember a few GM's who would have screwed up the resigning's somehow.

Connelly has made some really good moves and one colossal mistake. This year is big.
 

Yes all the "but they'll never sign" dominoes are starting to fall.

"Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo has agreed on a three-year, $186 million contract extension, his agent Alex Saratsis told ESPN on Monday.

The deal -- which includes a player option for the 2027-2028 season -- commits Antetokounmpo, a two-time NBA Most Valuable Player, to the franchise through the duration of guard Damian Lillard's contract and ends the possibility of him entering free agency in 2025.."

 

"Atlanta Hawks center Onyeka Okongwu agreed to a four-year, $62 million contract extension, his agent Sam Goldfeder of Excel Sports Management told ESPN on Monday.

Okongwu was the 14th and final player from the 2020 NBA draft class to finalize his rookie scale extension ahead of Monday's 6 p.m. ET deadline.."

 

Kris Dunn, PG

Utah (UTA) fully guaranteed salary for 2023-24


Walker Kessler, C

Utah (UTA) exercised $2.97 million option for 2024-25

Taj Gibson, C

Waived by Washington (WAS)

Montrezl Harrell, C

Waived by Philadelphia (PHI)

Ziaire Williams, SF

Memphis (MEM) exercised $6.13 million option for 2024-25


Josh Green, SG

Signed a 3 year $41 million rookie contract extension with Dallas (DAL)

Cole Anthony, PG

Signed a 3 year $39.1 million rookie contract extension with Orlando (ORL) - includes 2026-27 Club Option
 
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of all the pro sports, the NBA really seems as if they're playing with Monopoly money. the amounts of some of these contracts are staggering in real-world terms.
 

of all the pro sports, the NBA really seems as if they're playing with Monopoly money. the amounts of some of these contracts are staggering in real-world terms.

Probably because they are paying 13-15 players rather than 26-40 players on an MLB team or the 53 on a NFL roster or the 20-23 on an NHL roster.

Do you have an total payroll numbers?
 

The Ringer has a list of 20 Bold Predictions for this year's NBA Season. Here is one of them.

15. The Timberwolves will finish with a top-three record.​

Here’s how I see the Timberwolves: Thanks to the leg injury that sidelined Karl-Anthony Towns for four months last season, this year will be what 2022-23 should’ve been. Remove everything that’s on the periphery of actual basketball—the lopsided Rudy Gobert trade, ego-based questions about whose team it is, an über-expensive payroll and a need for draft capital that puts Towns’s name in trade rumors—and it’s not hard, even in a brutal Western Conference, to like what Minnesota has cooking. The pieces are in place for it to dominate regular-season competition: All-NBA talent, so much size, depth, veteran guile, youth, shooting, inventive coaches, some of the best defenders, and explosive athletes who can take over a game.

Anthony Edwards is an ascending star. Towns has a 50-40-90 season in him. Gobert’s defense still changes offensive strategies. Jaden McDaniels can legitimately shut down the world’s top offensive players and is primed to mature with the ball in his hands. Everything about Mike Conley, including his 36 years of wisdom, was designed in a lab to make him this roster’s ideal point guard. They’re bringing Kyle Anderson, Naz Reid, and (the underrated) Nickeil Alexander-Walker off the bench.

The offense isn’t without cause for concern. It really struggled to score even when its best players were on the floor last year. Whether Edwards ran pick-and-rolls with Gobert or Towns, both partnerships were a mess when the other big shared the floor. But their new starting five played only 75 minutes in seven games. Complementary talent, spacing, and creative coaches will help carve a path for Minnesota to be more efficient this season.

Edwards will get even more reps as a playmaker and will have more opportunities to launch catch-and-shoot 3s. The Timberwolves will ultimately go as far as his development takes them. (One big-picture takeaway from this preseason that may ultimately be meaningless: The Timberwolves rank first in location effective field goal percentage, mostly because they’ve abandoned long 2-point jumpers.)

Most of my own optimism, though, springs from the other end. Gobert is still an elite, floor-raising paint protector who did more to lift Minnesota into the top 10 than anyone else on the roster last year. Opponents took 35 percent of their shots at the rim—not a great number—but Gobert’s on-off differential defending the basket was the league best.

More importantly, in 360 minutes, lineups that featured Gobert, Edwards, McDaniels, and Towns held opponents to just 102.9 points per 100 possessions—the third lowest out of 150 four-player combos that logged at least 350 minutes. When Towns and Gobert shared the court, their defensive rating was 105.6, the same as Brook Lopez and Jrue Holiday. They didn’t foul, took care of the glass, and got back in transition.

This roster may not be ideal for postseason basketball, but it’ll be a problem through the winter, against teams that aren’t comfortable handling such a singular, explosive, humongous group that can win in several different ways. The more time they have together, the better they’ll be.

 




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