Woodward: Obama administration officials may face criminal charges

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You must be really pissed at China!
Yes, but not so much for Covid as they didn't seem any more malicious than Trump, they wanted to get ppe, beyond that I think many local leaders in china were downplaying it to Beijing because those guys do that to try to keep their jobs. I am pissed at China for Hong Kong(was an awesome city, been there and wanted to go back, not anymore) and Their human rights.
 

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Well, Hillary would have been smart enough to realize that one of the best ways to get re-elected is to govern competently, just like her husband. Also, unlike Trump, Clinton actually has a pretty strong work ethic and I think she is capable of reading more than a few briefing paragraphs a week even when her name doesn't appear in them and there are no pictures.
Right, right... Good talk, Russ
 

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The smartest thing you did was run our of energy in that post. Being wrong 9 straight times as you were there, is heading you into stocker/truth seeker range.
Starting from a "fake news" standpoint and completely ignoring every single point made there is an admission of stupidity.

A very booj like thing to do.
 

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FOUR American Patriots died in Benghazi! FOUR! How dare you make light of it?
I'm surprised that Trump even cares about those dead "losers". I've heard he prefers guys that don't get killed.....or are smart enough to dodge service altogether.
 

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Some people actually do care about public health as difficult as it is for many on the right to understand...
In short, some people actually do care. The expectation is that a public servant take an oath of office with the intention of living up to it.
 

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It was so calming he set off an international panic attack and send his own aides scrambling.
Their explanation isn't even worth discussing; it's a sham. Downplaying a killer virus is the equivalent of disabling fire alarms and smoke detectors.
 

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Trump called his Generals pussies as well.

Yep, because they are protecting their own side deals with major military contractors. The rank and file are courageous. Many of the top brass have become swamp players making big money and protecting turf.


While signing an executive order to assess how to strengthen the manufacturing and defense industrial base, Trump was talking to both Byers and White House trader adviser Peter Navarro. Trump asked Navarro if he would take charge of negotiations on steel and criticized U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross as “weak negotiators.”

Trump then added: “Not to mention my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals.”


It appears that Mattis might be guilty of treason. Plotting to depose a President because they disagree with you about policy is a dangerous thing. The swamp players...protecting their turf.
 

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Their explanation isn't even worth discussing; it's a sham. Downplaying a killer virus is the equivalent of disabling fire alarms and smoke detectors.
I’d say the better analogy is that the alarms were screaming and Don was telling everyone to ignore them and to get back to their desks because there was work to do.
 

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Trump then added: “Not to mention my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals.”

It appears that Mattis might be guilty of treason. Plotting to depose a President because they disagree with you about policy is a dangerous thing. The swamp players...protecting their turf.
I think the treason is Trump shitting on all our allies. He is nicer to Putin and lil Kim than our closest allies, it's sickening.
 
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I think the treason is Trump shitting on all our allies. He is nicer to Putin and lil Kim than our closest allies, it's sickening.
Allies are people that work together to further mutual interest and they don't rip each other off. The NATO countries have been ripping off the US for years. You are happy with that. I am not. People that rip us off are not allies. The other countries, Germany for one, knows they have been ripping us off. Now they are paying more in. Good. A little accountability is good. That is not a word that computes in WallyWorld.
 

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I think we are the idiots spending way to much on our military....
 

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Yep, because they are protecting their own side deals with major military contractors. The rank and file are courageous. Many of the top brass have become swamp players making big money and protecting turf.


While signing an executive order to assess how to strengthen the manufacturing and defense industrial base, Trump was talking to both Byers and White House trader adviser Peter Navarro. Trump asked Navarro if he would take charge of negotiations on steel and criticized U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross as “weak negotiators.”

Trump then added: “Not to mention my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals.”


It appears that Mattis might be guilty of treason. Plotting to depose a President because they disagree with you about policy is a dangerous thing. The swamp players...protecting their turf.
JHFC, do you even read the slop you trowel out? Get some help.
 

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Allies are people that work together to further mutual interest and they don't rip each other off. The NATO countries have been ripping off the US for years. You are happy with that. I am not. People that rip us off are not allies. The other countries, Germany for one, knows they have been ripping us off. Now they are paying more in. Good. A little accountability is good. That is not a word that computes in WallyWorld.
You're right. We had no mutual interest in containing the U.S.S.R., spreading freedom and capitalism to the former Soviet states, or preventing war within Europe itself. That never interested us. It still doesn't.
 

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You're right. We had no mutual interest in containing the U.S.S.R., spreading freedom and capitalism to the former Soviet states, or preventing war within Europe itself. That never interested us. It still doesn't.
You are too stupid to post....anywhere.
 

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Some people actually do care about public health as difficult as it is for many on the right to understand...
You've just mentioned a key factor in their thinking. You can see this consistently in some of the posters here (who I will not name at this point). They've been conditioned to believe that government must be worthless and corrupt and that all politicians are unscrupulous and really don't care about anything other than retaining power. If one really believes this, then the logical conclusions from that belief are ----

1) there's no such thing as right or wrong; just winning or losing;
2) there's no such thing as truth or lies; everyone lies to the same degree so you just go with your preferred liars.
 

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You are too stupid to post...anywhere. Here is an appropriate comparison of the two campaigns:

That photo is proof positive that IMPOTUS wins the popular vote by a landslide. Just wait.
 

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You've just mentioned a key factor in their thinking. You can see this consistently in some of the posters here (who I will not name at this point). They've been conditioned to believe that government must be worthless and corrupt and that all politicians are unscrupulous and really don't care about anything other than retaining power. If one really believes this, then the logical conclusions from that belief are ----

1) there's no such thing as right or wrong; just winning or losing;
2) there's no such thing as truth or lies; everyone lies to the same degree so you just go with your preferred liars.
Exactly. It's sad really...
 

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You've just mentioned a key factor in their thinking. You can see this consistently in some of the posters here (who I will not name at this point). They've been conditioned to believe that government must be worthless and corrupt and that all politicians are unscrupulous and really don't care about anything other than retaining power. If one really believes this, then the logical conclusions from that belief are ----

1) there's no such thing as right or wrong; just winning or losing; - this is "ends justify the means" leftist thinking.
2) there's no such thing as truth or lies; everyone lies to the same degree so you just go with your preferred liars.
Projection post ^^

There absolutely is right and wrong. You are on the wrong side. There is a core of corrupted politicians and deep state bureaucrats. That is beyond obvious. Somebody that was not part of the system became President and they hated it. They want to keep the system going and there is pressure among the peers to do so.

There are some, perhaps many, who are not corrupt, but there is the fear of the others.

So these entrenched corruptocrats are why you have all the leaking to the media. The media has been wholly complicit. They may not have understood it at first but it is too late now. They are all in. The deep state and the media need some status quo guy like Joe Biden to come back in so accountability ends and business as usual can continue as before.

That's how I see it. Maybe you, on the other hand, think that Congress is performing beautifully and our government runs efficiently......?
 

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Projection post ^^

There absolutely is right and wrong. You are on the wrong side. There is a core of corrupted politicians and deep state bureaucrats. That is beyond obvious. Somebody that was not part of the system became President and they hated it. They want to keep the system going and there is pressure among the peers to do so.

There are some, perhaps many, who are not corrupt, but there is the fear of the others.

So these entrenched corruptocrats are why you have all the leaking to the media. The media has been wholly complicit. They may not have understood it at first but it is too late now. They are all in. The deep state and the media need some status quo guy like Joe Biden to come back in so accountability ends and business as usual can continue as before.

That's how I see it. Maybe you, on the other hand, think that Congress is performing beautifully and our government runs efficiently......?
Our government was designed to run inefficiently, it is one of the safe guards of our freedoms. I am not saying there wasn't corruption before Trump there obviously was but it's also obvious that Trump is making corruption the standard practice, not the other way around. Anything goes as long as it benefits Trump.
 

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Our fellas repeat the same crap by rote:

1. Biden is too old
2. Biden belongs in a nursing home
3. Biden can only read off of a teleprompter
4. Biden is a socialist/commie

For a demented guy he is running a very disciplined campaign that has trump and his people dizzy. In spite of the inherent advantages of the incumbency, Biden has outraised trump, has used his resources more wisely, has been tactically sound and continues to hold his lead. If Biden runs the gov't half as well as he is running his campaign, the country will recover from the trump nightmare quickly.

OK, our white nationalist fellas can go back to their Biden nonsense now while his campaign rolls smoothly along.
 

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Our fellas repeat the same crap by rote:

1. Biden is too old
2. Biden belongs in a nursing home
3. Biden can only read off of a teleprompter
4. Biden is a socialist/commie

For a demented guy he is running a very disciplined campaign that has trump and his people dizzy. In spite of the inherent advantages of the incumbency, Biden has outraised trump, has used his resources more wisely, has been tactically sound and continues to hold his lead. If Biden runs the gov't half as well as he is running his campaign, the country will recover from the trump nightmare quickly.

OK, our white nationalist fellas can go back to their Biden nonsense now while his campaign rolls smoothly along.
Yep. And Biden is still the same gaffe-prone if well meaning guy he's always been. But he's smart enough to surround himself with smart, talented people instead of loyalist boot-lickers.
 

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But he's smart enough to surround himself with smart, talented people instead of loyalist boot-lickers.
I will make one addition:

But he's smart enough to surround himself with smart, talented people instead of loyalist boot-lickers and outright grifters.
 
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