War with Iran

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Giving terrorists billions in cash & the opportunity to make nuclear weapons was dumb. Trump's the one having to clean up that mess, not the one creating it.
Trump pulled us out of the deal. He created this mess. And now he's got his finger on the trigger.
 

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Trump pulled us out of the deal. He created this mess. And now he's got his finger on the trigger.
Wrong. The deal created this mess. You don't give terrorists billions to buy arms with to use against us & the opportunity to produce a nuclear weapon. That's just common sense. Makes you wonder what was in it for the people who pushed that deal through, because it certainly wasn't good for the country.
 

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Wrong. The deal created this mess. You don't give terrorists billions to buy arms with to use against us & the opportunity to produce a nuclear weapon. That's just common sense. Makes you wonder what was in it for the people who pushed that deal through, because it certainly wasn't good for the country.
You came through again, CRG, you regurgitated the RW media propaganda trope. I knew we could count on you, good job!
 

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You came through again, CRG, you regurgitated the RW media propaganda trope. I knew we could count on you, good job!
The best defense (when you are wrong) is not your usual mistaken offense. CRG is totally correct and none of you idiots know what has really happened either with Obama or with Trump in this response. Clueless checker player.
 

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Wrong. The deal created this mess. You don't give terrorists billions to buy arms with to use against us & the opportunity to produce a nuclear weapon. That's just common sense. Makes you wonder what was in it for the people who pushed that deal through, because it certainly wasn't good for the country.
The deal prevented them from developing nukes. Once Trump pulled out it allowed Iran free rein again. This is really just common sense. Have a deal negotiated with all your allies or don't. Jeez I wonder which is the better option? You bring up what was in it for the people who signed the deal. Have you ever stopped to think about what's in it for a select few that didn't want the deal?
 

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The best defense (when you are wrong) is not your usual mistaken offense. CRG is totally correct and none of you idiots know what has really happened either with Obama or with Trump in this response. Clueless checker player.
You bring nothing to this conversation like always.
 

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The deal prevented them from developing nukes. Once Trump pulled out it allowed Iran free rein again. This is really just common sense. Have a deal negotiated with all your allies or don't. Jeez I wonder which is the better option? You bring up what was in it for the people who signed the deal. Have you ever stopped to think about what's in it for a select few that didn't want the deal?
Dumbest GH post pf the century.
 

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Military Times: What war with Iran could look like

So far, a full-scale conflict between the U.S. and its allies and Iran and its proxies remains in the realm of wargaming at the moment. But with tensions rising between the U.S. and Iran, and as the U.S. moves more troops and military assets into the region, Pentagon planners and top U.S. intelligence officials have begun taking a closer look at what such a conflict might entail.

Iranian coastal defenses would likely render the entire Persian Gulf off limits to U.S. Navy warships. Iran’s advanced surface-to-air missile defenses would be a significant threat to U.S. pilots. And Iran’s arsenal of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles put U.S military installations across the U.S. Central Command region at risk. The cost in U.S. casualties could be high.





Beyond that, it’s unclear what victory might look like. Nobody is advocating a large-scale occupation like the one that followed the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. And many experts caution against hoping or assuming that a massive U.S.-led military invasion will prompt Iranians to overthrow their Islamic regime and transform Iran into an American ally.

Iran's military forces total roughly 545,000 active personnel and 350,000 reserve personnel, including about 125,000 men within the IRGC, according to the Strauss Center at the University of Texas, Austin. But while its total force strength is quite large, the quality is limited by an inability to purchase Western technology and severe economic sanctions.

Military Times interviewed more than a dozen military experts, including current and former U.S. military officials, about how a conflict might begin and how it could play out. This is what they said could happen:

There are jihadi strikes at key transit points such as the Suez Canal and the Straits of Hormuz. The waters off of Yemen are inundated with sea mines, making ship travel throughout the region a slow, almost suicidal process.

Crowds gather, seething angrily at U.S. and coalition sites in Iraq, first throwing stones before a car bomb bursts open a hole in the side of the walled compound.

Evacuations ensue, U.S. forces simultaneously flood into key battle positions as others are pulled back to reinforced bases in partner nations.

Electronic attacks volley across cyberspace, leading to entire power grids shut down. Electronic jamming floods the airwaves, degrading communication and control across military networks as commanders battle to see what’s happening in real time in a way they’ve not had to contend with for more than a generation, if ever.

All the while the network of proxy Iranian jihadi cells, from the Middle East to Central America find novel and makeshift ways to poke, prod and provoke the United States by hitting soft targets whenever and wherever possible.

Thousands die.

The few U.S. and allied boots on the ground inside of Iran belong to clandestine special operations forces and other government agencies who surreptitiously locate and destroy key targets or shuttle key insiders out of the war-torn country of Iran.

Weeks, perhaps months later, ammunition stocks depleted, no more major targets to hit, smoke and dust subside and an uneasy stasis emerges.

More likely than not, the leadership regime in Iran remains in place as a weakened nation strives to put itself back together. And a nuclear program begins anew.

Read complete article at: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/06/04/what-war-with-iran-could-look-like/
 

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Now we know what failed school teachers with zero zilch nada military background are reading. LMAO.
 

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Greg Gutfeld is a fu**ing moron. A faux news staple that the boys on the right bow down to.

 

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The article talks about Khamenei. The President referred to Khomeini.

OMG. And Barack Obama said we have “57 states” and pronounced “corpsman” with the S.

If this is all you have to nitpick about, things must be pretty damned good.
 

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Greg Gutfeld is a fu**ing moron. A faux news staple that the boys on the right bow down to.

Yeah, b/c John Oliver is a political genius. :rolleyes:

Why such a heavily edited clip of Gutfeld. I have no idea what he really said b/c there’s no context with tiny cut outs. He was giving his opinion on an opinion show anyway. Now we know John Oliver prefers his opinion over Gutfeld’s. Who knew?

But go on complaining about Fox News while claiming the rest of the news media is unbiased and has no influence on the public. But Fox News...they’re mesmerizing their viewers. :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah, b/c John Oliver is a political genius. :rolleyes:

Why such a heavily edited clip of Gutfeld. I have no idea what he really said b/c there’s no context with tiny cut outs. He was giving his opinion on an opinion show anyway. Now we know John Oliver prefers his opinion over Gutfeld’s. Who knew?

But go on complaining about Fox News while claiming the rest of the news media is unbiased and has no influence on the public. But Fox News...they’re mesmerizing their viewers. :rolleyes:
Anywhere beloved Fox News is being criticize, KGF to the rescue!

Have you spun Hannity shamelessly coordinating "news" coverage with Michael Flynn yet?
 

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Anywhere beloved Fox News is being criticize, KGF to the rescue!

Have you spun Hannity shamelessly coordinating "news" coverage with Michael Flynn yet?
Hannity!!!! I'm outraged about Sean Hannity!
 

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OMG. And Barack Obama said we have “57 states” and pronounced “corpsman” with the S.

If this is all you have to nitpick about, things must be pretty damned good.
It isn't like wtf has ever demonstrated he is a functional human being. I do not put him on ignore because of his entertainment value. He is a harmless individual.
 

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I liked when Iran said our president has a mental disability.
 

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I liked when Iran said our president has a mental disability.
I like when evil people say that I have a mental disability! That's called wonderful and it has happened right here on the GH! :) You support Iran, I'll support the orange man.
 
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