Wake Forest to display emblems, ‘Black Lives Matter’ on helmets this season

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I’m a Marxist. BLM (tm) is not “marxist.” Stfu about stuff you know less than nothing about. Less than nothing because you’re invoking marx/marxism from a place of such extreme and willful ignorance, you muddy the conceptual waters. BLM, the movement, might have Marxist elements, but those voices have been successfully smothered by identitarian micropolitiking. If BLM, as a movement, was Marxist (ML or MLM), the spokespeople of the movement would be demanding universal changes, not narrow, racialized, means-tested reforms (like reparations). I’m not against reparations, but that’s not Marxist bub
cultural marxism is a development of classical marxism.

how old are you? cuz you remind me of me in college. when you finish college you will learn that in the real world, waters get muddied. classical marxism failed, and one of the reasons why was because it couldn’t function in a world of conceptual muddy waters.

when classical marxism failed, the intelligentsia shifted to socialism. when socialism failed, the shift was to cultural marxism (or critical theory, if you don’t want the waters muddied). and cultural marxism thrives in conceptual muddy waters.
 

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And, in the event these criminals are unrestrained, escape an/or otherwise allowed to roam free due to hands off methods and they go on to hurt an innocent or innocents the cry will be “why didn’t you do something? Lock them up!”



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You are correct here. And what would it be like to have a friend or family member as that subsequent victim?
 

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Are you a Marxist? Do you believe that is the way to go?
I hope that automation technology advances to the point where involuntary human labor is unnecessary. That would be wonderful.

Not in my lifetime, and probably not my grandkids’ either.
 

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I hope that automation technology advances to the point where involuntary human labor is unnecessary. That would be wonderful.

Not in my lifetime, and probably not my grandkids’ either.
That's a whole other discussion.
The question boils down to if you would rather see capitalism end as we know it and we switch to a system that has no "classes".
I see that as a total failure and history agrees with me.
 

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That's a whole other discussion.
The question boils down to if you would rather see capitalism end as we know it and we switch to a system that has no "classes".
I see that as a total failure and history agrees with me.
There has never been any such system in history, just as there has never been anything close to unregulated capitalism or true free markets. That’s dishonesty.

Unregulated business = 737 Max.
 

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I'm not much for celebrating/promoting far left violent marxist groups; however if this is what takes for the Big10 to play I'm all for it. :cool03:

I don't like it only because of the BLM Marxist group does not represent the common black women and men but their own Maxest, Socilist agenda & stated they would get what they wanted even if violence was needed to be used to get their way. They have hijacked the true meaning of BLM for the common black person.

JMO
 

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No one has latched onto “marxists”. The founders of the BLM organization are “Marxists” and have admitted as such. This is common knowledge. Calling them what they admit to being isn’t an attempt at avoidance.

You know how some teams put little round stickers on their helmet slike the buckeyes and FSU. I guess it for some great plays they made.. Maybe they should put little round stickers with Marx or
Vladimir Lenin in the middle of the stickers when they make some sort of great play.

No thats to hard. Maybe a little red sticker with a Hammer and Sickle in the middle.
 
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Heres the deal. In an ideal world with unicorns and world peace you would hope nobody would die from an encounter with the police. Unfortunately when people make the CHOICE not to comply they qlso make the CHOICE to escalate a situation to a possible life ending event. Life is about choices and we should all be held responsible for the choices we make.
 

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I'll bet you have a lot of black friends.
What a racist thing to say. It's like Joe Biden saying "You ain't black if you don't vote Democrat."
What you just did is denigrate every black person and claim black humans cannot individually think for themselves.
Your racism is noted.
 

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You literally know nothing about what Marx wrote. Literally nothing.

Guaranteed you’re thinking of Lenin.
Dialectic materialism is an utterly failed economic theory. Marx was horribly wrong and every attempt to make it work has resulted in millions of people being killed. This is fact.
Do you believe dialectic materialism is viable after being proven wrong over a century of efforts?
 

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Heres the deal. In an ideal world with unicorns and world peace you would hope nobody would die from an encounter with the police. Unfortunately when people make the CHOICE not to comply they qlso make the CHOICE to escalate a situation to a possible life ending event. Life is about choices and we should all be held responsible for the choices we make.
How do we as a country answer to the abysmal record on criminal justice as born out in the statistics? How do we move beyond distraction and denial and tackle the actuarial facts? Charles Koch is pushing it, why is it achieving no traction?
Our communities are safest when the criminal justice system respects human dignity. That means achieving justice for victims as well as ensuring that people leaving prison have opportunities to succeed on the outside. We support reforms that improve communication between police and citizens and that reduce recidivism by removing barriers to opportunity
 
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"I don't want to be shot or suffocated by the police!"

"OMG you socialist!!!!"

wut?
For the sake of this argument, black lives matter. On a national level Black Lives Matter as an organization strongly shows a Marxist/Communist bent. Read enough of their positions on their national/international website and that will be evident to you; providing you've read Marx and Lenin. In reality, Communism has always devolved into totalitarianism and dictatorship. As such, in the end, the citizens as a whole always lose.
 

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There has never been any such system in history, just as there has never been anything close to unregulated capitalism or true free markets. That’s dishonesty.

Unregulated business = 737 Max.
Airbus has had its share of design flaws. Humans are involved. The pendulum is always swinging between regulatory capture and capitalism run amok and increased scrutiny and oversight. Sometimes the pendulum is bladed.


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Being a law enforcement officer is an incredibly difficult job.

But - on the idea that "if you don't comply with the officers' orders, you deserve what you get..."

What if the officers are dealing with someone who is mentally ill - or high on drugs - and is not rational enough to comprehend and obey with orders? If I'm off my meds, and don't respond, does that mean the only remaining option is to shoot me? There has to be a middle ground somewhere between letting people go and shooting them. there has to be some way to safely detain people without killing them.
 

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Hyperbolic rhetoric matters. Dial it back.



LASD writes, "To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling "We hope they die" referring to 2 LA Sheriff's ambushed today in #Compton: DO NOT BLOCK EMERGENCY ENTRIES & EXITS TO THE HOSPITAL. People's lives are at stake when ambulances can't get through."

Video that purportedly shows this going down circulated online Saturday night, and it depicts what appears to be a group of demonstrators confronting cops that are standing guard ... and making derogatory comments.




 
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Being a law enforcement officer is an incredibly difficult job.

But - on the idea that "if you don't comply with the officers' orders, you deserve what you get..."

What if the officers are dealing with someone who is mentally ill - or high on drugs - and is not rational enough to comprehend and obey with orders? If I'm off my meds, and don't respond, does that mean the only remaining option is to shoot me? There has to be a middle ground somewhere between letting people go and shooting them. there has to be some way to safely detain people without killing them.

So if you decide to take drugs you already know the consequences can result in death. You making that choice is putting your life at risk, whether it be the drugs themselves or an interaction with police.

Mentally ill is another issue altogether but unfortunately when a cop is in the line of duty he has every right to protect his own life. Choosing not to comply is a decision that can have possible life ending consequences. You would never say let a serial killer go because hes mentally ill. There job is to protect the public and when you become a threat to the public they need to take action. Obviously they should do all they can to take them in safely if possible but they have their own well being and families as well. The person being arrested has a CHOICE to make. None of these deaths have i seen an officer end up killing another while the offender was complying.
 

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Dialectic materialism is an utterly failed economic theory. Marx was horribly wrong and every attempt to make it work has resulted in millions of people being killed. This is fact.
Do you believe dialectic materialism is viable after being proven wrong over a century of efforts?

 

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The problem with far-left Socialism or a Communist system that uses socialism, as its economic system, is that it takes away the incentive of the induvial to motivate himself to become better especially in a Communist government that uses far left socialism as its economic engine. There is no incentive for an induvial to become better over time because the State runs the economic system and decides what is important and should be developed.

The U.S. has some socialism built into our economic system, but the free market system under capitalism is our economic system. Could we improve our capitalist economic system- sure, but not by embracing far left socialism.
 

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There has never been any such system in history, just as there has never been anything close to unregulated capitalism or true free markets. That’s dishonesty.

Unregulated business = 737 Max.
This is true but we have been regulating our Capitalistic system. We are not a pure capitalistic system!
 

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Being a law enforcement officer is an incredibly difficult job.

But - on the idea that "if you don't comply with the officers' orders, you deserve what you get..."

What if the officers are dealing with someone who is mentally ill - or high on drugs - and is not rational enough to comprehend and obey with orders? If I'm off my meds, and don't respond, does that mean the only remaining option is to shoot me? There has to be a middle ground somewhere between letting people go and shooting them. there has to be some way to safely detain people without killing them.
There were thousands of encounters between the police and civilians today. No one was shot. 99.9+% of the time no one is shot. You never hear about these encounters because they aren’t newsworthy. The middle ground happens thousands of times every single day. After enough encounters, eventually someone will get shot. It’s sad- but unpreventable.
 

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I don't like it only because of the BLM Marxist group does not represent the common black women and men but their own Maxest, Socilist agenda & stated they would get what they wanted even if violence was needed to be used to get their way. They have hijacked the true meaning of BLM for the common black person.

JMO
Not to mention one of the founders is a convicted slave trader and the person in charge of their fund raising is a convicted terrorist. Many reasons to dislike the organization and few to like.
 
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