Voter Suppression efforts in full swing

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They don't even try to hide their openly racist theories on blacks and their ability to handle some basic concepts. The low opinion the Libs have regarding the African American community is absolutely incredible. Blacks don't have access to the internet, blacks don't know where the DMV is, blacks are less likely to have phones.... the list goes on and on.
Your argument boils down to this: that blacks--the people who most vigorously oppose this as directed primarily at themselves--are too stupid to know when they're being suppressed.

And WE'RE the racists??
 

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Georgia voting legislation fact check:

Lefty Claim:
Voting ends at 5 pm
Truth:
Election Day polls open from 7 am to 7 pm. Only early voting closes at 5 pm.

Lefty Claim:
Reduces early voting hours
Truth:
Expands early voting hours in most cases with option for counties to extend further

Lefty Claim:
Eliminates early voting on Sundays
Truth:
Counties have option to add 1 or even 2 Sunday voting days

Lefty Claim:
No absentee ballots
Truth:
Voters must submit a driver’s license number, state ID number or acceptable voter ID
 

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Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots.

Georgia has cut by more than half the period during which voters may request an absentee ballot, from nearly six months before an election to less than three.

This will almost certainly reduce the number of people who seek absentee ballots and the number of people who vote. In the last presidential election, 1.3 million Georgians — about 26 percent of the state’s electorate — voted with absentee ballots. Of those who returned absentee ballots in 2020, 65 percent voted for Joseph R. Biden Jr. and 34 percent chose Donald J. Trump.

There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots.

Previously, Georgia law required voters to simply sign their absentee ballot applications. Now they will have to provide the number from a driver’s license or an equivalent state-issued identification. This is virtually certain to limit access to absentee voting.

The law also creates pitfalls for voters: If they fail to follow all the new steps, like printing a date of birth or in some cases including partial Social Security numbers, their ballots could be tossed out.

It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.

When the coronavirus pandemic hit last year, Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, mailed absentee ballot applications to every registered voter in the state ahead of its June primary election. This led to absentee voting by record numbers of Georgians.

When Mr. Raffensperger didn’t mail applications again for the general election, several local government agencies did so, particularly in Georgia’s large urban counties — a move that the state has now made illegal. With the loss of automatically mailed applications, some voters will invariably not request ballots, since the applications also served as a reminder to people that they were eligible to vote.

The new law also forbids third-party groups to prefill applications for voters, which made applying for an absentee ballot easier for many voters.

Drop boxes still exist … but barely.

For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.

There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.




I'm honestly not going to waste my time pasting all of these. There are many more.
 

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Let me warm you up with this for starters.
Ah OK, so President Gaffe, who you have personally accused of mental deterioration, has a mental fart, and that means that all of the awful stuff in that bill identified by so many news sources no longer exists. It's all LIES, you say!!! Got it.

The strange logic paths that go through that brain of yours...
 
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Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots.

Georgia has cut by more than half the period during which voters may request an absentee ballot, from nearly six months before an election to less than three.

This will almost certainly reduce the number of people who seek absentee ballots and the number of people who vote. In the last presidential election, 1.3 million Georgians — about 26 percent of the state’s electorate — voted with absentee ballots. Of those who returned absentee ballots in 2020, 65 percent voted for Joseph R. Biden Jr. and 34 percent chose Donald J. Trump.


There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots.

Previously, Georgia law required voters to simply sign their absentee ballot applications. Now they will have to provide the number from a driver’s license or an equivalent state-issued identification. This is virtually certain to limit access to absentee voting.

The law also creates pitfalls for voters: If they fail to follow all the new steps, like printing a date of birth or in some cases including partial Social Security numbers, their ballots could be tossed out.


It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.

When the coronavirus pandemic hit last year, Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, mailed absentee ballot applications to every registered voter in the state ahead of its June primary election. This led to absentee voting by record numbers of Georgians.

When Mr. Raffensperger didn’t mail applications again for the general election, several local government agencies did so, particularly in Georgia’s large urban counties — a move that the state has now made illegal. With the loss of automatically mailed applications, some voters will invariably not request ballots, since the applications also served as a reminder to people that they were eligible to vote.

The new law also forbids third-party groups to prefill applications for voters, which made applying for an absentee ballot easier for many voters.


Drop boxes still exist … but barely.

For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.

There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.




I'm honestly not going to waste my time pasting all of these. There are many more.
Not one of the things listed above has any racial discrimination in it. They only improve the integrity of ballots cast and make cheating harder.

Georgia now has 21 days of early voting, which is a greater number of days than many Democrat run states. Drop boxes were not codified and standardized in the past election laws for Georgia, violating the equal protections for voters in the state. Now they are.
 

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Georgia voting legislation fact check:

Lefty Claim:
Voting ends at 5 pm
Truth:
Election Day polls open from 7 am to 7 pm. Only early voting closes at 5 pm.

Lefty Claim:
Reduces early voting hours
Truth:
Expands early voting hours in most cases with option for counties to extend further

Lefty Claim:
Eliminates early voting on Sundays
Truth:
Counties have option to add 1 or even 2 Sunday voting days

Lefty Claim:
No absentee ballots
Truth:
Voters must submit a driver’s license number, state ID number or acceptable voter ID
Fact: Absentee voting has substantial new restrictions. Including reducing the time to receive and send them back. That does zero for "security. "

Fact: Dropbox are dramatically cut. Again nothing to do with security.

Fact: Early voting ending at 5. Again for no good reason.

Fact: Allowing counties to eliminate Sunday voting. Also not about election security. Guess which group votes on Sunday the most?

This bill was not about Election security, it was about reducing turnout. And giving the state legislature the ability to overrule the county Election board if they don't like the results.
 

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Fact: Absentee voting has substantial new restrictions. Including reducing the time to receive and send them back. That does zero for "security. "

Fact: Dropbox are dramatically cut. Again nothing to do with security.

Fact: Early voting ending at 5. Again for no good reason.

Fact: Allowing counties to eliminate Sunday voting. Also not about election security. Guess which group votes on Sunday the most?

This bill was not about Election security, it was about reducing turnout. And giving the state legislature the ability to overrule the county Election board if they don't like the results.
Oh come on now, you don't think these things make elections both very fair and perfectly secure?

Election security issues could be solved simply by dedicating the appropriate resources to ensure all eligible voters have ready access to registration, a free voter ID (to remove the pay-to-vote issue), and equally funded voting accessibility (to ensure there are no long voting lines anywhere) with hard copy tracing (to ensure all votes are recountable). Which Republican legislation is pushing any of these things? It seems all they are doing is making it far more difficult to vote, especially in urban areas.
 

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Fact: Absentee voting has substantial new restrictions. Including reducing the time to receive and send them back. That does zero for "security. "

Fact: Dropbox are dramatically cut. Again nothing to do with security.

Fact: Early voting ending at 5. Again for no good reason.

Fact: Allowing counties to eliminate Sunday voting. Also not about election security. Guess which group votes on Sunday the most?

This bill was not about Election security, it was about reducing turnout. And giving the state legislature the ability to overrule the county Election board if they don't like the results.
Every state has “restrictions” for absentee votes. Early voting stops at 5 pm in most all states. Dropbox security and standardized rules do most certainly have to do with security.

State legislatures are responsible for election laws and rules by the US Constitution and state constitutions, which you have no concern about.
 
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Ah OK, so President Gaffe, who you have personally accused of mental deterioration, has a mental fart, and that means that all of the awful stuff in that bill identified by so many news sources no longer exists. It's all LIES, you say!!! Got it.

The strange logic paths that go through that brain of yours...
Which awful things? I just listed a big one that is a total lie, and the lie didn’t originate with Biden. So you were totally in the wrong. And that wasn’t the only lie that has been told about this Georgia bill.
does cnc have the guts to admit that he’s misinformed and wrong? Nope. Small weak little man, with unearned arrogance.
 

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Fact: Absentee voting has substantial new restrictions. Including reducing the time to receive and send them back. That does zero for "security. "

Fact: Dropbox are dramatically cut. Again nothing to do with security.

Fact: Early voting ending at 5. Again for no good reason.

Fact: Allowing counties to eliminate Sunday voting. Also not about election security. Guess which group votes on Sunday the most?

This bill was not about Election security, it was about reducing turnout. And giving the state legislature the ability to overrule the county Election board if they don't like the results.
Compare and contrast Georgia’s voting laws with other states. I think you’ll be surprised to find that they are not as restrictive as even many Blue states. You’ve been deceived again.
 

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Oh come on now, you don't think these things make elections both very fair and perfectly secure?

Election security issues could be solved simply by dedicating the appropriate resources to ensure all eligible voters have ready access to registration, a free voter ID (to remove the pay-to-vote issue), and equally funded voting accessibility (to ensure there are no long voting lines anywhere) with hard copy tracing (to ensure all votes are recountable). Which Republican legislation is pushing any of these things? It seems all they are doing is making it far more difficult to vote, especially in urban areas.
Ask a very simple question: Would any of these laws be getting pushed if Trump had just been re-elected in a landslide? Of course not.
 

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Ask a very simple question: Would any of these laws be getting pushed if Trump had just been re-elected in a landslide? Of course not.
You haven’t explained how any one of these changes disadvantages minorities. White voters have the same requirements as black voters. Jim Crow EXPLICITLY differentiated the treatment of black voters from white voters. Someone should explain that to Slow Joe.

How does lowering voter turnout disadvantage black people? Do black people inherently need more days to register than white voters? That’s sound racist.

You know what does impact voter turnout? Media and political activist lies. It worked in the Georgia special Senate elections. They lowered Republican turnout.
 

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Ask a very simple question: Would any of these laws be getting pushed if Trump had just been re-elected in a landslide? Of course not.
Of course not. And look at S2 pretzel with a bunch of ridiculous, insane gibberish trying desperately to excuse this. These folks would do anything to win, cheat any way they can get away with, and they don't even try to hide it anymore.
 

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Ask a very simple question: Would any of these laws be getting pushed if Trump had just been re-elected in a landslide? Of course not.
I get that irony isn't really your thing but even YOU must see the irony with this statement, considering the massive voting changes across the country that took place from Nov 2016 to early 2021, no? Really?
 

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I get that irony isn't really your thing but even YOU must see the irony with this statement, considering the massive voting changes across the country that took place from Nov 2016 to early 2021, no? Really?
So all of this legislation is just rolling back the Covid provisions? All of it? Really? Why not make legislation to make the whole voting process easier, more accessible, and more secure for everyone? It's really not that hard. But Republicans aren't doing that. Why not? Why are they making it harder, and why are they admitting that they are doing this to make it easier to win, if it's not implementation of tactics designed solely to give them a significant advantage? Shouldn't elections be free and fair?
 

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If you guys don’t like the Georgia law. Take it up with governor Abrams.
 

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You haven’t explained how any one of these changes disadvantages minorities. White voters have the same requirements as black voters. Jim Crow EXPLICITLY differentiated the treatment of black voters from white voters. Someone should explain that to Slow Joe.

How does lowering voter turnout disadvantage black people? Do black people inherently need more days to register than white voters? That’s sound racist.

You know what does impact voter turnout? Media and political activist lies. It worked in the Georgia special Senate elections. They lowered Republican turnout.
I have. You keep ignoring it. It's not black/white. It's urban /suburban and rural. Who's more likely to vote on Sunday? African Americans. Who's more likely to vote by mail and early? Dem leaning voters.

So they give counties the right to eliminate Sunday voting. They make absentee voting more difficult and they cut early voting hours. Oh and no food or water if you are in line 5 hours. Want to drop your ballot off? Oops we eliminated half of the drop boxes.

All of these make voting more difficult for urban voters while having minimal effect on the rural Fellas. MAGA!
 
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I have. You keep ignoring it. It's not black/white. It's urban /suburban and rural. Who's more likely to vote on Sunday? African Americans. Who's more likely to vote by mail and early? Dem leaning voters.

So they give counties the right to eliminate Sunday voting. They make absentee voting more difficult and they cut early voting hours. Oh and no food or water if you are in line 5 hours. Want to drop your ballot off? Oops we eliminated half of the drop boxes.

All of these make voting more difficult for urban voters while having minimal effect on the rural Fellas. MAGA!
You haven’t.

The counties determine whether Sunday voting is permitted, not the state, which allows counties to vote on a couple Sundays. You say “give the counties the right TO ELIMINATE SUNDAY VOTING”? Why do you assume “eliminate”? You think Fulton county or predominantly black counties in Georgia are going to “eliminate” Sunday voting? 🤣 You’re too much.

In Georgia, they allow no excuse absentee voting. In NY, you HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCUSE for being allowed to vote absentee. And who is more likely to vote absentee, Dem leaning? Is there something stopping them from voting absentee? Yeah, having to have an excuse...in NY.

The are not “eliminating“ drop boxes. They are mandating them. They are setting standards instead of allowing dramatically different treatment by different areas within the state, thereby forcing some level of security. Why would you allow 100 drop boxes in one county and none in another within the same state? It’s standardized by population, which requires 1 drop for each additional 100K people.

They extended the number of early voting days up to 21 days, which is far longer than many states allow.

And poll workers can provide water or necessities to people waiting in line. It‘s just campaigns that are legally prohibited from providing food and drink within the area campaigning is not allowed.

Hey dummy, in case you didn’t know, rural people have disadvantages in voting compared to urban voters.

The changes definitely made it harder for organized cheating, which is the real reason you’re so butthurt.
 

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You haven’t.

The counties determine whether Sunday voting is permitted, not the state, which allows counties to vote on a couple Sundays. You say “give the counties the right TO ELIMINATE SUNDAY VOTING”? Why do you assume “eliminate”? You think Fulton county or predominantly black counties in Georgia are going to “eliminate” Sunday voting? 🤣 You’re too much.

In Georgia, they allow no excuse absentee voting. In NY, you HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCUSE for being allowed to vote absentee. And who is more likely to vote absentee, Dem leaning? Is there something stopping them from voting absentee? Yeah, having to have an excuse...in NY.

The are not “eliminating“ drop boxes. They are mandating them. They are setting standards instead of allowing dramatically different treatment by different areas within the state, thereby forcing some level of security. Why would you allow 100 drop boxes in one county and none in another within the same state? It’s standardized by population, which requires 1 drop for each additional 100K people.

They extended the number of early voting days up to 21 days, which is far longer than many states allow.

And poll workers can provide water or necessities to people waiting in line. It‘s just campaigns that are legally prohibited from providing food and drink within the area campaigning is not allowed.

Hey dummy, in case you didn’t know, rural people have disadvantages in voting compared to urban voters.

The changes definitely made it harder for organized cheating, which is the real reason you’re so butthurt.
A complete and total destruction of the fake leftist narrative.
 

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You haven’t.

The counties determine whether Sunday voting is permitted, not the state, which allows counties to vote on a couple Sundays. You say “give the counties the right TO ELIMINATE SUNDAY VOTING”? Why do you assume “eliminate”? You think Fulton county or predominantly black counties in Georgia are going to “eliminate” Sunday voting? 🤣 You’re too much.

In Georgia, they allow no excuse absentee voting. In NY, you HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCUSE for being allowed to vote absentee. And who is more likely to vote absentee, Dem leaning? Is there something stopping them from voting absentee? Yeah, having to have an excuse...in NY.

The are not “eliminating“ drop boxes. They are mandating them. They are setting standards instead of allowing dramatically different treatment by different areas within the state, thereby forcing some level of security. Why would you allow 100 drop boxes in one county and none in another within the same state? It’s standardized by population, which requires 1 drop for each additional 100K people.

They extended the number of early voting days up to 21 days, which is far longer than many states allow.

And poll workers can provide water or necessities to people waiting in line. It‘s just campaigns that are legally prohibited from providing food and drink within the area campaigning is not allowed.

Hey dummy, in case you didn’t know, rural people have disadvantages in voting compared to urban voters.

The changes definitely made it harder for organized cheating, which is the real reason you’re so butthurt.
No black people live in the Republican counties that will now eliminate Sunday voting? Ridiculous argument.

There was no security issue with the drop boxes in 2020. But they are reducing them in urban counties. Gee I wonder why? Oh right to "standardize" things. Even you don't believe that lie.

What are these disadvantages rural voters face? Name them.
 

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No black people live in the Republican counties that will now eliminate Sunday voting? Ridiculous argument.

There was no security issue with the drop boxes in 2020. But they are reducing them in urban counties. Gee I wonder why? Oh right to "standardize" things. Even you don't believe that lie.

What are these disadvantages rural voters face? Name them.
List of disadvantages for rural voters:

1. None.
 

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People need more days, as opposed to less days.

Stop trying to making voting about Black people.
Then you REALLY have a problem with NY then. They only allow 9 days of early voting.

You lefty idiots should really know some facts before you spout off.
 

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No black people live in the Republican counties that will now eliminate Sunday voting? Ridiculous argument.

There was no security issue with the drop boxes in 2020. But they are reducing them in urban counties. Gee I wonder why? Oh right to "standardize" things. Even you don't believe that lie.

What are these disadvantages rural voters face? Name them.
😂🤣😂🤣

God you are pathetic.

Rural voters have a much longer trip to vote in-person than urban voters. Urban voters have access to mass transit, unlike rural voters. Rural, less populated voters will likely be limited to few, likely one drop box in their county.

You can’t be that dumb howie.
 

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Then you REALLY have a problem with NY then. They only allow 9 days of early voting.

You lefty idiots should really know some facts before you spout off.
New York elections are a terrible mess and need to be fixed. They have generally little impact on national affairs because their races are not close. But they did have a couple House races that took weeks to call. Hell, they just released revised election results today.

I'm glad you're concerned and will support passage of HR1 for the sake of New York voters.
 
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