Trump has Covid (...or does he?)

jamiche

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Trump's no saint, but the record shows he has helped many people have a job. That's simply a fact. When comparing bad president's, Trump isn't even in the bottom 20.
Donald has helped even more people lose jobs. That's simply a fact. When comparing bad presidents, donald is in the bottom one.
 

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Have some perspective. It's only been 7 months. I know this isn't anything close to the Black Death and medicine is much better now but it took the Black Death five years to kill 20 million people. If we go another year we could have at least triple the number of deaths, hospitalizations, and lingering illnesses that we do now.

By the way, I don't recall ever being sick for several weeks with the flu and I never had lingering effects on various organs for months afterward. That's what we're hearing from this disease.
Now we’re back to the long term damage of organs, which is rare, and still mostly unproven? If you don’t think that can happen with other viruses, you need to do more research.
 

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“We’re going back to work. We’re going to be out front,” Mr. Trump said in a video shot immediately after his return and then posted online. “As your leader, I had to do that. I knew there’s danger to it, but I had to do it. I stood out front. I led. Nobody that’s a leader would not do what I did. And I know there’s a risk, there’s a danger, but that’s OK. And now I’m better and maybe I’m immune, I don’t know. But don’t let it dominate your lives.”
 
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You keep spouting the same line of BS. I have said that Walz screwed up in how he handled the nursing homes. He also adjusted his policies to new information. Something the Feds mostly failed or refused to do.
So you didn’t say there was nothing Walz could have done? For the record - you didn’t say that?
 

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Donald has helped even more people lose jobs. That's simply a fact. When comparing bad presidents, donald is in the bottom one.
In fact, he's on track to become the only President in history to leave with fewer jobs than when he entered.

Mennesota, feel free to go back fapping to Alex Jones
 

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Trump is done. He's losing everyone.
No, he hasn't, and won't, lose everyone. He has lost enough support to make his re-election very unlikely. His hard-core support will never abandon him. There's a 24/7 right wing noise machine dedicated to reinforcing that support and the worse things get for Trump, the more his core supporters will withdraw into that bubble.
 

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No, he hasn't, and won't, lose everyone. He has lost enough support to make his re-election very unlikely. His hard-core support will never abandon him. There's a 24/7 right wing noise machine dedicated to reinforcing that support and the worse things get for Trump, the more his core supporters will withdraw into that bubble.
He will always have his 38% cult . But if the softer 5% that makes up his 43‰ abandons him, it turns into a route
 

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No, he hasn't, and won't, lose everyone. He has lost enough support to make his re-election very unlikely. His hard-core support will never abandon him. There's a 24/7 right wing noise machine dedicated to reinforcing that support and the worse things get for Trump, the more his core supporters will withdraw into that bubble.
Yeah, I was speaking more to his staff. I'm guessing the majority of them despise him. But I suppose that was probably a trend long before he became president.

Everything he is doing now is to appeal to his core base. He will not be gaining any more followers leading up to election.
 

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No, he hasn't, and won't, lose everyone. He has lost enough support to make his re-election very unlikely. His hard-core support will never abandon him. There's a 24/7 right wing noise machine dedicated to reinforcing that support and the worse things get for Trump, the more his core supporters will withdraw into that bubble.
Yup. The mouth breathing, 85 IQ, silent racist hard core Trump base "ain't gonna vote for them ******-lovin' commie bastards."

We see them on display here.
 

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Can someone provide a good explanation for why Trump's people won't tell us the last time he had a negative test? There are no good explanations, right?
 

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Yup. The mouth breathing, 85 IQ, silent racist hard core Trump base "ain't gonna vote for them ******-lovin' commie bastards."

We see them on display here.
There have been studies on this and I see the phenomena on this board all the time. In surveys, Democratic leaning voters have tended to focus more on particular policies while Republican voters are preoccupied with more abstract constructs like "socialism" or "freedom." Those types of constructs do not have precise definitions or universally acknowledged details. They can be subjective enough to be shaped into a generalized view that "socialism" is anything that comes out of Democrat's mouth. Exhibit A on this board is MennoSota.

I never even think about capitalism or socialism. I just assume this is a capitalist country and figure that the primary questions deal with how much government involvement is needed to deal with the negative externalities of capitalism or the societal needs that aren't handled well enough by the private markets.

The GOP must have figured out long ago that they will have a difficult time if the focus of elections comes down to particular policies or details so they opted to brainwash their base with abstractions and hyperbolic cultural contrasts.
 

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The GOP must have figured out long ago that they will have a difficult time if the focus of elections comes down to particular policies or details so they opted to brainwash their base with abstractions and hyperbolic cultural contrasts.
This is quite the take and it’s completely wrong.

The current Democratic nominee for POTUS continues to not be asked about his policies and his whole campaign is built around hyperbolic cultural contrast of Orange man bad.
 

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You live in crippling fear of imaginary non-existent "commies". The virus is the least of your concerns
No fear of commies, just honest recognition of your existence. :cool:
 

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Donald has helped even more people lose jobs. That's simply a fact. When comparing bad presidents, donald is in the bottom one.
Really. When unemployment was at a record low before the Dems shut down the economy, you still attempt to blame President Trump. You make me laugh.
 

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This is quite the take and it’s completely wrong.

The current Democratic nominee for POTUS continues to not be asked about his policies and his whole campaign is built around hyperbolic cultural contrast of Orange man bad.
Trump, on his platform: "uh, more of the same stuff, and some other stuff."
 

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This is quite the take and it’s completely wrong.

The current Democratic nominee for POTUS continues to not be asked about his policies and his whole campaign is built around hyperbolic cultural contrast of Orange man bad.
No, it's correct and you are Exhibit B after MennoSota although there's definitely some competition for the runner up spot.

As far as Biden's policies, how would you know what he did or didn't say about them? I'm sure you're completely uninterested. Biden has talked a fair amount about policies. He's done a number of town halls, including one last night, where those were the types of questions most often asked by voters.

Yes, this election is mostly a referendum on Trump. It's usually that way when an incumbent is running for re-election but Trump's conduct has made it particularly easy to treat him as a punching bag. There's enough material there for multiple elections.
 

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As far as Biden's policies, how would you know what he did or didn't say about them?
No one knows what his policies are since he doesn’t have to talk about them or simply refuses to.

Whatever his policies might be are they even his own? After all according to his running mate it’s a Harris Administration with Joe Biden as POTUS.
 
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