Trump has Covid (...or does he?)

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And conveniently showing up in Cleveland too late to be tested.
Thanks for letting us know. I mean, how could the folks that actually hosted the debate know more about the debate's testing process than you do.

“Our thoughts are with the President, First Lady and all of our guests. As health advisor to the Commission on Presidential Debates and the host site, we had requirements to maintain a safe environment that align with CDC guidelines- including social distancing, hand sanitizing, temperature checks and masking. Most importantly, everyone permitted inside the debate hall tested negative for COVID-19 prior to entry. Individuals traveling with both candidates, including the candidates themselves, had been tested and tested negative by their respective campaigns." Statement from the Cleveland Clinic, which partnered with Case Western Reserve University to host the debate
 

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There is no evidence to suggest that Trump’s behavior has led to Americans unwillingness to wear a masks, except that the media and the left have repeatedly told us that.
I think almost any person who's interacted with a Trumpster can call BS on that one.
 

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IN FACT, a Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, Medical Director for CityMD in New York City, says that Trump received the standard of care for ALL CV patients that are admitted to the hospital, with the exception of the Regeneron antibodies. Instead, people do have access to convalescent plasma that is available to hospitalized CV patients.

So CNNboy and howie with a big swing and a miss.
 

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IN FACT, a Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, Medical Director for CityMD in New York City, says that Trump received the standard of care for ALL CV patients that are admitted to the hospital, with the exception of the Regeneron antibodies. Instead, people do have access to convalescent plasma that is available to hospitalized CV patients.

So CNNboy and howie with a big swing and a miss.
What % of patients are hospitalized and receive this treatment all within 24 hours of testing positive? Thanks!
 

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I think almost any person who's interacted with a Trumpster can call BS on that one.
And there are hundreds of thousands of people without co-morbidities that are fearful to leave their home for fear of contracting CV and dying.

I can pull assumptions out of my ass just like you.
 

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What % of patients are hospitalized and receive this treatment all within 24 hours of testing positive? Thanks!
This physician said Trump received the standard of care medical protocol. Again, ANY president would as well.

If you want to argue that presidents get preferential treatment, that’s a really dumb argument. Of course they do.

Trump is no different than Obama or any preceding president.
 

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This physician said Trump received the standard of care medical protocol. Again, ANY president would as well.

If you want to argue that presidents get preferential treatment, that’s a really dumb argument. Of course they do.

Trump is no different than Obama or any preceding president.
You're arguing out of both sides of your mouth. You say Trump got preferential treatment, but it's also OK for him to downplay the virus because he got standard treatment. No he didn't!

If he is indeed on a quick path to recovery, it's in large part because he got extraordinary treatment. That's fine and good. But it makes his continuing attitude and statements downplaying the seriousness reckless and irresponsible. Almost no one else who gets infected will have the early aggressive treatment he did. It would be great if we could give everyone this level of care but we can't and won't.
 

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You're arguing out of both sides of your mouth. You say Trump got preferential treatment, but it's also OK for him to downplay the virus because he got standard treatment. No he didn't!

If he is indeed on a quick path to recovery, it's in large part because he got extraordinary treatment. That's fine and good. But it makes his continuing attitude and statements downplaying the seriousness reckless and irresponsible. Almost no one else who gets infected will have the early aggressive treatment he did. It would be great if we could give everyone this level of care but we can't and won't.
Thanks to Operation Warp Speed, more CV patients will have access to Regeneron and other therapeutics, vaccines, etc. that will bring this pandemic to a conclusion much sooner than otherwise would’ve have happened.

Trump’s experience has highlighted those realities. Trump took actions that will saves lives while Biden was holding his dick.
 

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Evn with the advancement in therapeutics, we are flat-lined at ~300,000 new infections and 5,000 deaths per week and have been since mid-August. If you think that's doing a great job, that's your prerogative. I don't think most Americans agree.
 

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Evn with the advancement in therapeutics, we are flat-lined at ~300,000 new infections and 5,000 deaths per week and have been since mid-August. If you think that's doing a great job, that's your prerogative. I don't think most Americans agree.
And whose fault is that? What would Trump do to change those numbers? Aren’t governors pretty much in charge of their CV response? What resources has Trump not given governors that is resulting in those numbers?

People have control over their CV destiny. People are responsible for their own actions. It is the people who are responsible for our CV numbers in the end, and even authoritarian governors can‘t even control that.

The most important things that the President has control at this point Operation Warp Speed, the distribution of vaccines once approved, and providing resources for the states most in need. Most of the other advancements, like testing, are well under way.
 

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Don't feed KGB. He's got nothing, and he knows it. When Biden hikes the estate tax, watch how pissed KGB gets.
 

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Looks like Trump is going to put everyone's COVID assumptions to the test
 

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Thanks to Operation Warp Speed, more CV patients will have access to Regeneron and other therapeutics, vaccines, etc. that will bring this pandemic to a conclusion much sooner than otherwise would’ve have happened.

Trump’s experience has highlighted those realities. Trump took actions that will saves lives while Biden was holding his dick.
Um, what position of influence did Biden have since this virus has been discovered? What should Biden have done? Specifics please, contained to 2020 for relevance.

And why is Biden holding the Presidential unit in this story? Sound like poor social distancing.
 

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Evn with the advancement in therapeutics, we are flat-lined at ~300,000 new infections and 5,000 deaths per week and have been since mid-August. If you think that's doing a great job, that's your prerogative. I don't think most Americans agree.
Now do Governors. Or are you still going with nothing Governors could do. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Thanks for letting us know. I mean, how could the folks that actually hosted the debate know more about the debate's testing process than you do.

“Our thoughts are with the President, First Lady and all of our guests. As health advisor to the Commission on Presidential Debates and the host site, we had requirements to maintain a safe environment that align with CDC guidelines- including social distancing, hand sanitizing, temperature checks and masking. Most importantly, everyone permitted inside the debate hall tested negative for COVID-19 prior to entry. Individuals traveling with both candidates, including the candidates themselves, had been tested and tested negative by their respective campaigns." Statement from the Cleveland Clinic, which partnered with Case Western Reserve University to host the debate
They know the process - did they require the candidates to provide documentation of a negative test ? It would be politically beneficial for the Trump campaign to publically state that now, but they seem reluctant to do so.
 

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Um, what position of influence did Biden have since this virus has been discovered? What should Biden have done? Specifics please, contained to 2020 for relevance.

And why is Biden holding the Presidential unit in this story? Sound like poor social distancing.
Biden and a lot of lefties are giving us hindsight theories of how they would’ve handled it. They gave nothing in real time except criticism on what should’ve been done. Yeah, early testing was messed up. How would Biden have changed that before it was known.

They haven’t really said anything that was different than was actually done. If you can think of one thing that would’ve made some huge difference, lay it on me. Not something vague and unprovable like “taking the virus seriously”.

Biden, the left and the media politicized every Trump Administration and task force move, which only hindered decision-making and communications to the public by undermining both. They weren’t worried about saving lives. They were worried about winning an election.
 

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Looks like Trump is going to put everyone's COVID assumptions to the test
Possibly. Here is what he has to overcome to do so.
1. The experience of people for whom Covid was a big deal. Whether they git very sick themselves, or lost a loved one, his outcome is less relevant than their own experience.
2. He’s going to have to make his experience seem possible to everyone.

He might be able to do it, but it’s going to take a great sales job.
 

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Trump's balcony scene required two takes since he was gasping for air in the first take. This whole thing is reality TV for him.
 

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A few days ago, every lefty and the media thought Trump was done b/c he’s “morbidly obese”, old, and weak. Now they’re complaining about the likelihood that is is about to beat the virus.

Imagine that?
 

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Biden and a lot of lefties are giving us hindsight theories of how they would’ve handled it. They gave nothing in real time except criticism on what should’ve been done. Yeah, early testing was messed up. How would Biden have changed that before it was known.

They haven’t really said anything that was different than was actually done. If you can think of one thing that would’ve made some huge difference, lay it on me. Not something vague and unprovable like “taking the virus seriously”.

Biden, the left and the media politicized every Trump Administration and task force move, which only hindered decision-making and communications to the public by undermining both. They weren’t worried about saving lives. They were worried about winning an election.
Thanks for the serious reply. Of course, the President would like to win as well. That’s not a personality flaw unto itself.
Part of being the incumbent is you have to run against “what if”.
 

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Thanks for the serious reply. Of course, the President would like to win as well. That’s not a personality flaw unto itself.
Part of being the incumbent is you have to run against “what if”.
Oh, the left has supplied plenty of those.
 
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