Trump/Barr Secret Police in Portland

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Just spray paint and singing songs...

You know it's bad when the mayor actually speaks out against the criminals. Should have used force a long time ago.
The Mayor is 100% tone deaf. The Mayor and the City Council are the reason there is an issue. They supported the criminals for 2-months - first by doing nothing, then by banning local law enforcement from working with the Feds. Now they get to reap what they sow. Unfortunately, the citizens of Portland pay the biggest price.
 

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The Mayor is 100% tone deaf. The Mayor and the City Council are the reason there is an issue. They supported the criminals for 2-months - first by doing nothing, then by banning local law enforcement from working with the Feds. Now they get to reap what they sow. Unfortunately, the citizens of Portland pay the biggest price.
And the citizens of Portland will reelect them.......
 

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Police union building set on fire in Portland last night. This after trying to set a fire to a police precinct while blocking police from leavin 3 days ago.
 

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Police union building set on fire in Portland last night. This after trying to set a fire to a police precinct while blocking police from leavin 3 days ago.
So many have left this thread.
 

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Police union building set on fire in Portland last night. This after trying to set a fire to a police precinct while blocking police from leavin 3 days ago.
Is Portland officially considered a sh*thole now? Hopefully the rioting is limited to downtown.

I haven't been there since 1990s. It seemed like a beautiful little city.

As much criticism I had of Frey/Walz for not bringing in the Nat Guard fast enough in Minneapolis (which probably contributed to the spread of rioting nationally), at least Walz eventually came in strong with troops until the rioting ended. Give him that credit when comparing to the failures in Oregon and Washington.
 

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Why do mayors and governors continue to let the mob take over and destroy beautiful cities? What is the point of letting this continue?
 

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Why do mayors and governors continue to let the mob take over and destroy beautiful cities? What is the point of letting this continue?
Great question. Curious if our resident lefties have a serious answer, without any bs.
 

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Why do mayors and governors continue to let the mob take over and destroy beautiful cities? What is the point of letting this continue?
To appear the wokest of the woke. Of course you can not be woke enough for the angry mob so they try to destroy you.
 

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Why do mayors and governors continue to let the mob take over and destroy beautiful cities? What is the point of letting this continue?
It’s about power. The leftist socialist of the Democratic Party need these mobs to stay in power. These are the people that voted them in.

We have seen in the case of the woke mayors in these liberal ran cities there is no far enough left to satisfy the leftist mob.

The mob has turned on the mayors of MPLS, Seattle & Portland. Yet the Portland mayor seems to think these are his people and is still making feeble attempts to appease the mob.
 

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Is Portland officially considered a sh*thole now? Hopefully the rioting is limited to downtown.

I haven't been there since 1990s. It seemed like a beautiful little city.

As much criticism I had of Frey/Walz for not bringing in the Nat Guard fast enough in Minneapolis (which probably contributed to the spread of rioting nationally), at least Walz eventually came in strong with troops until the rioting ended. Give him that credit when comparing to the failures in Oregon and Washington.
Would left posters be referring to these protests as peaceful if they were prolife protests, because I wouldnt.

Of course, like other issues, left posters just wouldnt respond to such a question.

That is what Kayleigh is so great at. She has her notebook and hammers the
White house press with their hypocrisy. It is great to watch well deserved. Now of course there is talk of boycotting her. Only surprised it took so long.

Dan Crenshaw and Kayleigh future repub presidential ticket.
 

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I have been disgusted at not only how the elected officials in Portland have handled this, but also in how the MSM has completely distorted the reality of what/why it happened. I honestly believe they should be teaching this in textbooks in the near future to warn against such behavior and biases. Maybe a new Trump/Russia conspiracy can move the focus in the interim.
 

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I have been disgusted at not only how the elected officials in Portland have handled this, but also in how the MSM has completely distorted the reality of what/why it happened. I honestly believe they should be teaching this in textbooks in the near future to warn against such behavior and biases. Maybe a new Trump/Russia conspiracy can move the focus in the interim.
Hold on Spoof. Don’t you know The jamm jamm clan insists the msm is unbiased?
 

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Interesting piece from the Portland NAACP claiming entitled Whites like BadGopher have stolen the focus of advancing rights for Black police victims, turned it into a spectacle for their own agenda at the expense of Blacks:

"Images of “Naked Athena,” as the protester has been labeled, have gone viral, her unclothed confrontation with police earning her accolades as a brave ally of the cause. But I see something else: a beneficiary of white privilege dancing vainly on a stage that was originally created to raise up the voices of my oppressed brothers and sisters. In this, she is not alone. As the demonstrations continue every night in Portland, many people with their own agendas are co-opting, and distracting attention from, what should be our central concern: the Black Lives Matter movement.

Unfortunately, “spectacle” is now the best way to describe Portland’s protests. Vandalizing government buildings and hurling projectiles at law enforcement draw attention — but how do these actions stop police from killing black people? What are antifa and other leftist agitators achieving for the cause of black equality? The “Wall of Moms,” while perhaps well-intentioned, ends up redirecting attention away from the urgent issue of murdered black bodies. This might ease the consciences of white, affluent women who have previously been silent in the face of black oppression, but it’s fair to ask: Are they really furthering the cause of justice, or is this another example of white co-optation?

We cannot fall for their deception. We cannot settle for spectacles that endanger us all.
This is a moment for serious action — to once again take up the mantle of the civil rights era by summoning the same conviction and determination our forebears did. We welcome our white brothers and sisters in this struggle. In fact, we need them. But I must ask them to remain humbly attuned to the opportunity of this moment — and to reflect on whether any actions they take will truly help establish justice, or whether they are simply for show."


Portland’s protests were supposed to be about black lives. Now, they’re white spectacle.
> Portland’s protests were supposed to be about black lives. Now, they’re white spectacle.

The mistaken belief in "white fragility" leads directly to "white spectacle." People who see themselves as fragile, need to make a big spectacle out of the point that they are newly woke and making the effort to suppress their (allegedly) inherent racism.

The blacks would be better off to partner with people who don't read incredibly stupid books.

They would also be better off not to partner with incredibly stupid people who say "defund the police." About 1,000 extra (mostly black-on-black) murders have occurred since Memorial Day, thanks to criminals being emboldened by police standing down in cities who have politicians shouting "defund the police."
 

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I'm going to guess you dont even see the irony on your whining about a professor who specializes in teaching the dangers of fascism being injured while protesting unmarked, unauthorized federal "police" there only because the president feels the need to stamp out political protest.

You're dangerous to our democracy.
> I'm going to guess you dont even see the irony ...

No, it should have been obvious that my entire post was replete with irony. Why else do you think I bolded "and the rise of fascism" when I quoted "She teaches Modern European History, specializing in the history of Germany & Eastern Europe (and the rise of fascism)." Let me break down the irony for ya.

The true irony here is that she herself is on the street being a fascist, by virtue of supporting a group of BLM and/or antifa fascist-Marxists who are out in the street trying to burn down the Federal building and kill all the people inside of it. She *is* one of the fascists - get it? She's perhaps there collecting material for a new book about fascists (namely herself and others) trying to kill people for no good reason.

She is absolutely not there to "protest unmarked, unauthorized federal police, there only because the president feels the need to stamp out political protest." The federal police that are there, are completely and validly authorized - they are there to protect federal property and to arrest those that are trying to destroy federal property in an effort to kill the people currently occupying that property. Police have always used unmarked cars, and it's a valid tactic. Have you never ever gotten a speeding ticket from an unmarked police car? The president did not send them there to stamp out protest. The president is fine with legitimate peaceful protest as protected by our Constitution and Bill of Rights. What is not fine is violent protest that has the express aim of killing people, which is not protected. Go read a civics book.

What is so ironic is that the professor has written about the history of the rise of fascism in Germany and Eastern Europe, and presumably within the context of those writings, has also touched upon the dangers of fascism. She has literally written (and presumably also read much) about the dangers of fascism. And yet there she is, out in the street, acting as a fascist by providing cover for other fascists who are trying to burn down buildings and kill people. How ironic!

Her next book can contain a chapter on the following danger of fascism: If you're out there on the street being a fascist and doing the violent things that fascists always seem to do, then there is a certain amount of danger of getting hit in the forehead by a rubber bullet shot by the legitimate police who are trying to defend the public from you and the other fascists.

> You're dangerous to our democracy.

No, you are the one who is dangerous to our democracy. Actually, you are the one who is advocating to replace our democracy with mob rule by a bunch of fascist-Marxists - perhaps including yourself.

You are dangerous because you attempt to redefine the good guys who are authorized and designated to keep our democracy safe, as so-called "fascists" when the actual fascists are you and your misinformed comrades.

My role in society is to try to save you from your own misinformed bias, so that you too can become a participatory member of this democracy, instead of promoting mob rule.
 

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The leadership in Portland has ordered the police to stand down and not fight alongside the Feds.
I just wanted to reprise this post, now that the Mayor of Portland has decried the fact that rioters are trying to burn down the Federal building and kill all its occupants.

You can't make up humor any better than this. The mayor enables mayhem and destruction for 70+ days, and then finally sees the light, and concludes that mayhem and arson and destruction and murder might not be such a good idea.

Anybody who voted for this fraud of a Portland Mayor should be ashamed of themselves for not doing due diligence before casting their vote.
 

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Sooooooo, safe to say that CNN is reporting by the hour, on the hour all evening that the Dems owned Barr today and Barr looked foolish and defensive, or whatever?...
Ogee, I know you made this post completely in satire.

However, that is exactly what happened. If you find that relevant video from CNN and MSNBC and others, you will laugh so hard that you will cry.

They were stumbling all over themselves in the attempt to accuse Barr of interrupting them and stepping all over their speech and not allowing them their rightful minutes to speak. In reality, in every single instance, they (rarely, but whenever they did) asked Barr a question, then two words into Barr's answer the questioner stepped on Barr's answer and either just started speaking again, or (often) said "I reclaim my time" and immediately started talking over Barr, and if Barr failed to stop answering immediately, then they complained that Barr was not being polite and not obeying Robert's Rules of Order. For reference, there is nothing in Robert's Rules of Order that says you can reclaim time from someone you asked a question to, before they hardly even had a chance to answer the questions.
 

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Police union building set on fire in Portland last night. This after trying to set a fire to a police precinct while blocking police from leavin 3 days ago.
What do you call it these days, when you padlock the doors to a building full of people, & then light it on fire? It used to be called 'attempted murder'.
 

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What do you call it these days, when you padlock the doors to a building full of people, & then light it on fire? It used to be called 'attempted murder'.
Peaceful protest

I am guessing most lefties here would defend these as mostly peaceful, just a few outside agitators.
 
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You can read more about those peaceful protests here.

I read the whole article. I found the BLM security guard's (it is what his business card lists) take on how most of this is Antifa's fault.

Very sad for every business and home owner in that area. They are the people that got screwed the most. Protesters are the worst.
 

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So it is funny to publicize a conservative's email so their account gets flooded? Serms rather juvenile to me.
I guess at least peaceful protesters arent harrassing him at his house yet.

What do you think about antifa's work across the country and what is going on with the protests? Just some examples:
- 500 million dollars property damage just in minnesota
- 30 dead
- 1 million dollars cop car damage just in LA
 
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I read the whole article. I found the BLM security guard's (it is what his business card lists) take on how most of this is Antifa's fault.

Very sad for every business and home owner in that area. They are the people that got screwed the most. Protesters are the worst.
Yes, it is very sad. The governments in Seattle and Portland make Walz’s handling of the MPLS riots seem acceptable. Think of how hard that is to do. All because of an organization that doesn’t even exist.
 
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