The new Corona virus, should we worry?




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You call "opened up" what really isn't "opened up". No one is closed, no one is open. No one has been closed, no one has been open.
Tell that to the prominent progressives who considered what Florida and Texas did “genocide”. Now that it didn’t turn out the way they predicted, there is no difference. Honesty just isn’t much of a consideration for progressives.
 

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If anything news from around the world 2020-2021 has reinforced in a big way why we have and need to uphold a strong second amendment. Widespread mental health and antisocial behavior, criminality is a separate issue. It is interesting maybe only to me the DC riot resulted in only one shooting, and it wasn’t from the very right wing and assuredly gun-owning protestors.
 


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All political actors use fear to drive voting and other behaviors. But what progressives did in the Trump era is unprecedented fear mongering. This is a predictable result. I have no idea if or when progressives will push to return to normal, but they will have a hard time turning this pathology off.
 

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Tell that to the prominent progressives who considered what Florida and Texas did “genocide”. Now that it didn’t turn out the way they predicted, there is no difference. Honesty just isn’t much of a consideration for progressives.

Still relying on bad modeling, which are based on faulty studies, compounding errors upon errors, bad assumptions and so on. It’s difficult to understand why more in the scientific community haven’t protested the panic-inducing headlines in May 2021. It seems like only a month ago the CDC director was crying on national tv about impending doom. What happened to inherent scientific skepticism and empiricism?
 

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MN Covid-19 Update - Thursday, May 6

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive cases 544,023 +1,382. Including probable cases 584,227.

Positive test rate 4.1%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 41,759 +84.

Cases no longer needing isolation 563,364 +988.

Active Cases 13,659 +650.

Deaths 6,809 +13. Including probable deaths 7,204.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,136 +2. Including probable cases 4,376.

Patients currently Hospitalized 565 -15. Cumulative 30,783 +92.

Patients currently In ICU 152 +3. Cumulative 6,264 +19.

Total PCR tests processed 8,676,916 +34,065. Including antigen testing 9,402,942.

Number of people tested 4,086,204 +12,395.

 

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If anything news from around the world 2020-2021 has reinforced in a big way why we have and need to uphold a strong second amendment. Widespread mental health and antisocial behavior, criminality is a separate issue. It is interesting maybe only to me the DC riot resulted in only one shooting, and it wasn’t from the very right wing and assuredly gun-owning protestors.
I'm still learning, but I think the bolded would be considered "defending the DC rioters" on here.
 



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With Covid winding down, here is one final comparison of MN vs. States that have largely been wide open the entire pandemic.

Percentage of residents dead from Covid (along with percentage of each states population of the hardest hit/most vulnerable groups).

1. South Dakota 0.22% dead(population is 2.3% black, 3.85% hispanic, 9% Native American (no other state was above 1.1%), 17.2% aged 65+)

2. Georgia 0.184% dead(population is 31.5% black, 9.9% hispanic, 16% aged 65+)

3. Texas 0.173% dead(population is 13% black, 39.7% hispanic, 16.3% aged 65+)

4. Florida 0.163% dead(population is 17% black, 27% hispanic, 19.1% aged 65+)

5. Minnesota 0.130% dead(population is 7% black, 5.6% hispanic, 16.3% aged 65+)

6. Wisconsin 0.129% dead (population is 6.4% black, 5% hispanic, 17.5% aged 65+)
 
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With Covid winding down, here is one final comparison of MN vs. States that have largely been wide open the entire pandemic.

Percentage of residents dead from Covid (along with percentage of each states population of the hardest hit/most vulnerable groups).

1. South Dakota 0.22% (2.3% black, 3.85% hispanic, 9% Native American (no other state was above 1.1%), 17.2% aged 65+)

2. Georgia 0.184% (31.5% black, 9.9% hispanic, 16% aged 65+)

3. Texas 0.173% (13% black, 39.7% hispanic, 16.3% aged 65+)

4. Florida 0.163% (17% black, 27% hispanic, 19.1% aged 65+)

5. Minnesota 0.130% (7% black, 5.6% hispanic, 16.3% aged 65+)

6. Wisconsin 0.129% (6.4% black, 5% hispanic, 17.5% aged 65+)
Can you clarify the second set of percentages? Doesn’t make sense to me. More than 16% of MN deaths were over 65, and I can’t believe 16% of those over 65 died?
 


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Can you clarify the second set of percentages? Doesn’t make sense to me. More than 16% of MN deaths were over 65, and I can’t believe 16% of those over 65 died?
Sorry, I could've been more clear. The second set is the actual population percentages of each group in each state, not percentage of covid deaths. Blacks, Hispanics and 65 plus have significantly worse outcomes with covid, so I thought looking at how many of each reside in each state would give more depth to the numbers.

So for example:

0.13% of Minnesotan's have died from Covid.

Minnesota's population is 7% black, 5.6% hispanic and 16.3% 65 plus.
 



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All political actors use fear to drive voting and other behaviors. But what progressives did in the Trump era is unprecedented fear mongering. This is a predictable result. I have no idea if or when progressives will push to return to normal, but they will have a hard time turning this pathology off.
I'm concerned there is no going back. We've empowered and emboldened the loudest yet tiniest factions of the population and fear works, 100%.

It's death by a thousand cuts. The moderate Dems, many MANY great reasonable people, see things like tearing down statues, idiotic renaming ideas, changing songs, et al and say to themselves "Well, I don't really agree with it, but It's my side pushing it and saying it so I'm okay just sitting on my hands, and who needs the trouble of facing the repercussions from the extremely loud, violent, terroristic tiny factions that are doing the yelling and screaming?"

This will continue to snowball because very few have the stones to actually stand up for common sense and say NO. Reasonable disagreement and discussion of issues is all but gone.
 

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The fear of Covid that I see out of Leftist people in my life, and Leftists on this board, is perfect proof of how easily mainstream media can brainwash and manipulate the masses that tune in. Plus I think that since leftists also struggle with Faith and belief in a higher power, so they’re clinging to “science” to save them from death. A death in which they’re so afraid of, because they don’t know where they’re going when they die. Or they believe that this life is all they get, so they’re grasping for whatever they’re told will save them. It’s really quite sad. Putting your life in other human beings’ hands just because they have the title of PhD next to their name...I just won’t do it. I’ve watched too many of my loved ones trust a PhD to save them, only to see them die. I’ll take my Faith in God over “expert” humans all day.
 

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New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.

A new study estimates that the number of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. is more than 900,000, a number 57% higher than official figures. Worldwide, the study's authors say, the COVID-19 death count is nearing 7 million, more than double the reported number of 3.24 million.

The analysis comes from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, who looked at excess mortality from March 2020 through May 3, 2021, compared it with what would be expected in a typical nonpandemic year, then adjusted those figures to account for a handful of other pandemic-related factors.

The final count only estimates deaths "caused directly by the SARS-CoV-2 virus," according to the study's authors. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19. Researchers estimated dramatic undercounts in countries such as India, Mexico and Russia, where they said the official death counts are some 400,000 too low in each country. In some countries — including Japan, Egypt and several Central Asian nations — the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation's death toll estimate is more than 10 times higher than reported totals.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...n-900-000-people-have-died-of-covid-19-in-u-s
 
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I'm concerned there is no going back. We've empowered and emboldened the loudest yet tiniest factions of the population and fear works, 100%.

It's death by a thousand cuts. The moderate Dems, many MANY great reasonable people, see things like tearing down statues, idiotic renaming ideas, changing songs, et al and say to themselves "Well, I don't really agree with it, but It's my side pushing it and saying it so I'm okay just sitting on my hands, and who needs the trouble of facing the repercussions from the extremely loud, violent, terroristic tiny factions that are doing the yelling and screaming?"

This will continue to snowball because very few have the stones to actually stand up for common sense and say NO. Reasonable disagreement and discussion of issues is all but gone.

A great many of those people would probably switch sides for someone other than the very polarizing DJT. The power base of each party has lurched to more of the extremities. If DJT had been able to reign in his inner demons, Twitter activity, and mask his sociopathy better (as other politicians are able to do) he'd be sitting in the White House today.

As it is, reasonable people have to make a choice they may not like, not unlike many of the soldiers and generals in the Civil War. It comes down to what one values the most, financial incentives, morals, and so on.
 

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MN Covid-19 Update - Friday, May 7

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 545,255 +1,232. Including probable cases 585,677.

Positive test rate 3.3%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 41,822 +63.

Cases no longer needing isolation 564,326 +962.

Active Cases 14,135 +476.

Deaths 6,821 +12. Including probable deaths 7,216.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,137 +1. Including probable cases 4,377.

Patients currently Hospitalized 560 -5. Cumulative 30,855 +72.

Patients currently In ICU 144 -8. Cumulative 6,285 +21.

Total PCR tests processed 8,713,037 +37,264. Including antigen testing 9,445,432.

Number of people tested 4,099,069 +12,865.

 

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New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.

A new study estimates that the number of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. is more than 900,000, a number 57% higher than official figures. Worldwide, the study's authors say, the COVID-19 death count is nearing 7 million, more than double the reported number of 3.24 million.

The analysis comes from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, who looked at excess mortality from March 2020 through May 3, 2021, compared it with what would be expected in a typical nonpandemic year, then adjusted those figures to account for a handful of other pandemic-related factors.

The final count only estimates deaths "caused directly by the SARS-CoV-2 virus," according to the study's authors. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19. Researchers estimated dramatic undercounts in countries such as India, Mexico and Russia, where they said the official death counts are some 400,000 too low in each country. In some countries — including Japan, Egypt and several Central Asian nations — the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation's death toll estimate is more than 10 times higher than reported totals.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...n-900-000-people-have-died-of-covid-19-in-u-s
Why stop now? Total garbage.


“Their estimate of excess deaths is enormous and inconsistent with our research and others," said Dr. Steven Woolf, who led the Virginia Commonwealth team. "There are a lot of assumptions and educated guesses built into their model."”
 


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Why stop now? Total garbage.


“Their estimate of excess deaths is enormous and inconsistent with our research and others," said Dr. Steven Woolf, who led the Virginia Commonwealth team. "There are a lot of assumptions and educated guesses built into their model."”
Well, and I’ve already posted the estimates on excess deaths from lockdowns and pandemic response which is huge.
 


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MN Covid-19 Update - Saturday, May 8

data reported by 5pm the previous day.

Positive cases 546,315 +1,081. Including probable cases 586,959.

Positive test rate 4.1%.

Health-care workers with positive cases 41,868 +46.

Cases no longer needing isolation 566,438 +2,112.

Active cases 13,297 -838.

Deaths 6,829 +8. Including probable deaths 7,224.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,137 (no change). Including probable cases 4,377.

Total patients hospitalized-cumulative 30,928 +73.

Total patients in ICU-cumulative 6,295 +10.

Total PCR tests processed 8,738,927 +26,056. Including antigen testing 9,477,892.

Number of people tested 4,108,262 +9,193.

 

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MN Covid-19 Update - Sunday, May 9

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 546,965 +652. Including probable cases 587,762.

Positive test rate 2.7%.

Health-care workers with positive cases 41,896 +28.

Cases no longer needing isolation 568,295 +1,857.

Active cases 12,236 -1,061.

Deaths 6,834 +5. Including probable deaths 7,231.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,137 (no change). Including probable cases 4,378.

Total patients hospitalized-cumulative 30,937 +9.

Total patients in ICU-cumulative 6,295 (no change).

Total PCR tests processed 8,763,057 +23,712. Including antigen testing 9,508,251.

Number of people tested 4,120,194 +11,932.

 

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MN Covid-19 Update - Sunday, May 9

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 546,965 +652. Including probable cases 587,762.

Positive test rate 2.7%.

Health-care workers with positive cases 41,896 +28.

Cases no longer needing isolation 568,295 +1,857.

Active cases 12,236 -1,061.

Deaths 6,834 +5. Including probable deaths 7,231.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,137 (no change). Including probable cases 4,378.

Total patients hospitalized-cumulative 30,937 +9.

Total patients in ICU-cumulative 6,295 (no change).

Total PCR tests processed 8,763,057 +23,712. Including antigen testing 9,508,251.

Number of people tested 4,120,194 +11,932.

It’s pretty amazing to me that we still have health care workers testing positive. Even without the vaccine, I would expect they’ve had it and had immunity already, coupled with mask wearing! But they should have all been vaccinated. Why are so many still getting it? Positive test rate continues to plummet. Let’s open excel up for the playoffs! Cmon Walz
 

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MN Covid-19 Update - Monday, May 10.

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 547,926 +962. Including probable cases 588,952.

Positive test rate 6.8%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 41,920 +24.

Cases no longer needing isolation 570,036 +1,741.

Active Cases 11,685 -551.

Deaths 6,834(no change). Including probable deaths 7,231.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,137 (no change). Including probable cases 4,378.

Patients currently Hospitalized 481 -10. Cumulative 30,942 +5.

Patients currently In ICU 133 +3. Cumulative 6,295 (no change)

Total PCR tests processed 8,777,210 +14,158. Including antigen testing 9,523,868.

Number of people tested 4,127,264 +7,073.

 

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Weekend Beds in Use Update.

Must have been trying to get out of the hospital in time for Mother's day. Or maybe it was just a coincidence.

Saturday:
ICU 133 -11
other 395 -21
Total 528 -33

Sunday:
ICU 130 -3
other 361 -34
Total 491 -37

Monday:
ICU 133 +3
other 348 -13
Total 481 -10
 


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(note - "Beds in Use" website has not been updated as of 2:00pm CDT)

MN Covid-19 Update - Tuesday, May 11

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 548,391 +466. Including probable cases 589,527.

Positive test rate 5.1%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 41,952 +32.

Cases no longer needing isolation 571,752 + 1,716.

Active Cases 10,535 -1,150.

Deaths 6,842 +8. Including probable deaths 7,240.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,137 (no change). Including probable cases 4,377.

Total patients hospitalized-cumulative 31,077 +135.

Total patients in ICU-cumulative 6,317 +22.

Total PCR tests processed 8,786,150 +9,196. Including antigen testing 9,535,069.

Number of people tested 4,131,235 +3,971.

 

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You beat me to it. I was just going to post this.

“I still think we’re in the bottom of the third or top of the fourth,” replied Osterholm, the director of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. “You know, I worry the next six to 14 weeks could be the darkest weeks of the pandemic. You know, we’re down now to 150,000 cases a day, which seems down. … And if this variant takes off here in North America like it has throughout Europe, I think we could be seeing numbers much, much higher than we have to date, and the vaccine really won’t save us.

Watch this Anderson Cooper interview of Osterholm and Dr Sanjay Gupta.


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I wonder if bottlebass still thinks Osterholm is a genius?
 




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