The new Corona virus, should we worry?

MplsGopher

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There is no correlation to lockdowns and mask mandates and success in controlling the virus.
This would only be true in the sense that it is not possible to compare different locations that had different levels of restrictions in place.

The only true comparison is to compare the same location to itself under the two different circumstances.
 

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This would only be true in the sense that it is not possible to compare different locations that had different levels of restrictions in place.

The only true comparison is to compare the same location to itself under the two different circumstances.

No, no, no. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is the only good and true form of analysis. To wit:

 

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Hospitalizations and ICU admissions still going up.
Case numbers going up.

MN Covid-19 Update - Friday, April 2

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 493,618 +2,073. Including probable cases 524,203.

Positive test rate 5.0%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 39,354 +59.

Cases no longer needing isolation 501,188 +837.

Active Cases 16,151 +1,695.

Deaths 6,486 +3. Including probable deaths 6,864.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,047 +2. Including probable cases 4,282).

Patients currently Hospitalized 439 +4. Cumulative 27,476 +72.

Patients currently In ICU 112 +7. Cumulative 5,651 +16.

Total PCR tests processed 7,754,272 +41,246. Including antigen tests 8,303,586.

 

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Hospitalizations and ICU admissions still going up.
Case numbers going up.

MN Covid-19 Update - Friday, April 2

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 493,618 +2,073. Including probable cases 524,203.

Positive test rate 5.0%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 39,354 +59.

Cases no longer needing isolation 501,188 +837.

Active Cases 16,151 +1,695.

Deaths 6,486 +3. Including probable deaths 6,864.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,047 +2. Including probable cases 4,282).

Patients currently Hospitalized 439 +4. Cumulative 27,476 +72.

Patients currently In ICU 112 +7. Cumulative 5,651 +16.

Total PCR tests processed 7,754,272 +41,246. Including antigen tests 8,303,586.

We are in a race against a variant the vaccines won't protect against. Get your shots people. And don't behave like idiots in the meantime.
 

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We are in a race against a variant the vaccines won't protect against.
Agree with your spirit.

Disagree that there can really be any variant, which maintains virulence, that even the first gen vaccines won't at least "help out" with.

Allowing an infection to get established, but preventing a hospitalization from it, is absolutely still a win that I will take every time.


Then obviously the next gen vax will go to town.
 

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Also agree with this in spirit.

HOWEVER, we are rapidly approaching a date such that: every single adult American in the country could have had a vaccine, if they wanted it.

My sympathy for any person who denies their opportunity to get a vaccine, and then gets infected with covid, will start fading exponentially fast after we reach that threshold date .......
 

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The only thing preventing that tyranny here is freedom loving 'Muricans refusing to wear a mask!
 

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Stricter lockdown on high risk population and use of N95 masks.

I agree.
I would have loved to see your head explode when the gov pays Black people and fat people to stay home tho.
 

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Wife got vaccinated yesterday. Wish she would have signed me up because by the time I got her message it was full. Hopefully I will get mine soon then I can can forget about this bs.
 

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At least in SW MN, providers are expanding their vaccination programs almost daily. The Sanford health system is now promoting that people can go to a website and schedule a vaccination for anyone 16 and older.

A local public health agency today held a vaccination clinic where people could literally walk in without an appointment and get their first dose of Moderna.

A co-worker of mine called a pharmacy in a nearby town and was told, come on over and you can get the J&J vaccine today.

It's starting to look like those ladies in supermarkets pushing their free samples. They're practically begging people to get vaccinated.
 

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Wife got vaccinated yesterday. Wish she would have signed me up because by the time I got her message it was full. Hopefully I will get mine soon then I can can forget about this bs.
There’s a reason she didn’t, WALLACE.
 

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I was 100% serious, that wasn't sarcastic, I fucking hate TSA. Its the gov protecting rich people who fly. I hate TSA.
I wasn't defending the TSA. Just pointing out Fool2's ridiculous claim he could replace them all in 15 minutes.
 

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He chose to be obese. He chose to die. Personal responsibility must hold over all else, at any cost.

Otherwise, I might have to pay an extra 0.03% of my personal profits into taxes that go to help single mothers feed their kids! The hell with that!
 

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No beds-in-use numbers during the weekend. Will be very interesting to see what they look like on Monday.

MN Covid-19 Update - Saturday, April 3

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 495,420 +1,801. Including probable cases 526,267.

Positive test rate 5.8%.

Health-Care workers with positive cases 39,434 +80.

Cases no longer needing isolation 503,024 +1,836.

Active Cases 16,368 +217.

Deaths 6,496 +10. Including probable deaths 6,871.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 4,051 +4. Including probable cases 4,286.

Total patients hospitalized 27,553 +77.

Total patients in ICU 5,660 +9.

Total PCR tests processed 7,784,787 +30,833. Including antigen testing 8,338,754.

 

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Our friendly and sometimes overly smug candian friends have made their situation more difficult with an inexplicable near total shutdown of surgeries in 2020-2021 in preparation for a COVID-19 wave that never came. Ontario alone has a nearly 250k surgery backlog, including 36k cancer-related. This is a incredible number for a lightly populated province. Is this a cautionary tale on what happens when you give free reign to epidemiology modelers and the Feigl-Dings of the world. This will only get worse as they face their new spring surge in a vulnerable population with a low level of past infection and low level of vaccination.


The result? Over 36,000 Ontario cancer patients had their surgeries delayed last spring.

“That's a staggering number there and that's in Ontario alone in a very short period of time,” said Dr. Antoine Eskander, a surgical oncologist at Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre in Toronto.

“It's almost impossible to recover from this type of a backlog ... Even if we were to operate on Saturdays and Sundays and into the evenings every day, which we don't have the capacity for, we could not do that even if we wanted to.”

Eskander says surgeries have only increased by small increments -- about 6 per cent per week. To increase surgical capacity, it would require not just hospital capacity, but nursing and physician capacity as well. And even then, it would be hard to recover, he says.

“So we're stuck in a situation now where I think it's becoming clear we're going to have to make decisions about surgery and about prioritization of certain types of procedures … And I'm worried that there will be some patients who won't get surgery for a very long time.”


 
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