The new Corona virus, should we worry?

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Odd # today. less than 9,000 confirmed tests, but over 2900 tested positive. Hence a positive test rate of almost 34%.

Beds in use update - holiday weekend catch-up edition.

Fri
ICU 190 -6
Non-ICU 674 -25
total 864 -31.

Sat
ICU 177 -13
non-ICU 673 -1
total 850 -14

Sun
ICU 168 -9
non-ICU 647 -26
total 815 -35

Mon
ICU 156 -12
non-ICU 654 +7
total 810 -5

MN Covid-19 Update - Mon, Jan 4

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 408,630 +2,948. (positive test rate 33.9%)

Health-Care workers with positive cases 32,727 +153.

Cases no longer needing isolation 405,536 +2,137.

Active Cases 12,689 +989.

Deaths 5,259 +11.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 3,419 +6.

Patients currently Hospitalized 810 -5. Cumulative 22,180 +85.

Patients currently In ICU 156 -12. Cumulative 4,676 +18.

Total tests processed 5,484,851 +8,709.

Number of people tested 3,020,132 +2,823.

 

[JimmyJamesMD]

Odd # today. less than 9,000 confirmed tests, but over 2900 tested positive. Hence a positive test rate of almost 34%.

Beds in use update - holiday weekend catch-up edition.

Fri
ICU 190 -6
Non-ICU 674 -25
total 864 -31.

Sat
ICU 177 -13
non-ICU 673 -1
total 850 -14

Sun
ICU 168 -9
non-ICU 647 -26
total 815 -35

Mon
ICU 156 -12
non-ICU 654 +7
total 810 -5

MN Covid-19 Update - Mon, Jan 4

data reported by 4pm the previous day.

Positive Cases 408,630 +2,948. (positive test rate 33.9%)

Health-Care workers with positive cases 32,727 +153.

Cases no longer needing isolation 405,536 +2,137.

Active Cases 12,689 +989.

Deaths 5,259 +11.

Deaths at long-term care and assisted living 3,419 +6.

Patients currently Hospitalized 810 -5. Cumulative 22,180 +85.

Patients currently In ICU 156 -12. Cumulative 4,676 +18.

Total tests processed 5,484,851 +8,709.

Number of people tested 3,020,132 +2,823.

heres your explanation

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

heres your explanation

My question is why?

 

[MplsGopher]

If they had been reported on time, no one would care that they were accumulated in the total.

But because someone at a lab somewhere in the state made a mistake, and sent them in late, we should pretend they never happened.


Looking for any excuse to fake a win.

 

[GophersInIowa]

In the bold, I'm not sure why youre trying to say. The people that say the media is spreading fear porn, which they are, are going crazy over the extreme cases? I guess what does "going crazy over the extreme cases" mean?

When they cover someone young and healthy dying or MIS-C for example. We know those things happen but they’re not something that happens a lot. The same people complaining about these things being reported are the ones posting random stories like this and claiming it means the count is significantly exaggerated.

 

[GophersInIowa]

When you cannot trust the media, you draw your own conclusions. You are attempting to hold people accountable for drawing these conclusions while giving the dishonest media a pass. You want to protect the media because they present your viewpoint (which is a dishonest one).

I just pointed out the irony in all of it. Those screaming the loudest at the media are essentially doing the same thing they’re critical of the media for doing.

 

[balds]

Percentage of population killed by Covid 19 of some of our neighbors and/or places discussed on this board. From lowest to highest:

1) Wisconsin 0.08%
2) Sweden 0.084%
3) Minnesota 0.098%
4) Texas 0.099%
5) Florida 0.10%
6) Arizona 0.12%
7) Iowa 0.125%
8) Michigan 0.134%
9) South Dakota 0.168%

South Dakota, Arizona, and to some degree Texas, have significantly higher percentage of deaths from Native Americans and Hispanics.

Outside of Minnesota and especially Michigan, most of the states on that list have been pretty relaxed with restrictions. I didn't include any states in the northeast, as they were in a completely different situation than the above states.

 

[MplsGopher]

Percentage of population killed by Covid 19 of some of our neighbors and/or places discussed on this board. From lowest to highest:

1) Wisconsin 0.08%
2) Sweden 0.084%
3) Minnesota 0.098%
4) Texas 0.099%
5) Florida 0.10%
6) Arizona 0.12%
7) Iowa 0.125%
8) Michigan 0.134%
9) South Dakota 0.168%

South Dakota, Arizona, and to some degree Texas, have significantly higher percentage of deaths from Native Americans and Hispanics.

Outside of Minnesota and especially Michigan, most of the states on that list have been pretty relaxed with restrictions. I didn't include any states in the northeast, as they were in a completely different situation than the above states.

Worthless as an argument, because you have no measure of how risky of behavior the people in those states without restrictions were choosing to engage in.

At best, you can try to reason something like "if state X had no restrictions, and still had similar death/population ratio to a state with restrictions, even if that was due to most people voluntarily choosing not to be risky, that means the restrictions didn't need to be be implemented and most people would've just chosen to avoid risk."

Then I'll come back with the winning counter-point: in a global pandemic, it is the purpose and place of government to force people to make the correct choice (avoiding risky behavior).

 

[balds]

Worthless as an argument, because you have no measure of how risky of behavior the people in those states without restrictions were choosing to engage in.

At best, you can try to reason something like "if state X had no restrictions, and still had similar death/population ratio to a state with restrictions, even if that was due to most people voluntarily choosing not to be risky, that means the restrictions didn't need to be be implemented and most people would've just chosen to avoid risk."

Then I'll come back with the winning counter-point: in a global pandemic, it is the purpose and place of government to force people to make the correct choice (avoiding risky behavior).

I wasn't making any argument. Just providing some statistics and a few observations from a collection of places with varying populations, climates, density, State Government response, etc.

 

[OldBob53]

Now this just in, per CNN: One American is dying of Covid every 33 seconds. Didn't mention the world-wide tally but Id estimate its one Covid death every 5 to 10 seconds.

"A grave digger could make a fortune in these parts" --Gus (Robert Duval) in Lonesome Dove

 

[From the Parkinglot]

If they had been reported on time, no one would care that they were accumulated in the total.

But because someone at a lab somewhere in the state made a mistake, and sent them in late, we should pretend they never happened.


Looking for any excuse to fake a win.

When you base restrictions and the news runs with the percent of positive tests each day it matters when the tests are from and what day they are reported.

 

[Spoofin]

When you base restrictions and the news runs with the percent of positive tests each day it matters when the tests are from and what day they are reported.

Of course it does. A lot. For these and many more reasons. Leaders base their policy on this data, and everyone bases their opinions on this data. How can anyone argue that accurate and timely data isn't critical to that?

 

[JimmyJamesMD]

 

[JimmyJamesMD]

Hey lefties, pretty easy story to disavow and show youre not an ultimate partisan hack.......any takers?

 

[JimmyJamesMD]

 

[howeda7]

Hey lefties, pretty easy story to disavow and show youre not an ultimate partisan hack.......any takers?

Disavow what exactly? Did she test positive before she went to DC or after?

 

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[Minnesota]

She sucks. Pelosi sucks. Easy enough.

 

[Costa Rican Gopher]

NYE in Wuhan. No distancing. No mandatory masks. No vaccines. They got the West to destroy their own economies.

 

[Costa Rican Gopher]

They're laughing at us.

 

[Minnesota]

Chinatown Craig is on the case, folks!

 

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[Costa Rican Gopher]

Chinatown Craig is on the case, folks!

Remember when I said only a f*cking idiot would believe it came from eating medium rare bats from a wet market? And that, anyone with a brain in their head could deduce it came from the Wuhan Laboratory of Virology, where scientists & our State Dept had been saying they were doing experiments mutating Covid from horseshoe bats to humans as fas back as 2010?

 

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[JimmyJamesMD]

This is where I disagree. There is no new virus