The Coming Lockdown Extension (Volume 3)

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So Tim Walz isn't the 2nd coming of Chairman Mao? I'm shocked... :rolleyes:

Can we still march on the capital with our guns just for fun?
 

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Expires May 18 (y) Groups of 10 or less “allowed” at that point. (not that anyone was actively enforcing it)

Bars and restaurants back by June 1
 

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Looking forward to the flip flop by the Rs when this whole thing backfires.
 

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So Tim Walz isn't the 2nd coming of Chairman Mao? I'm shocked... :rolleyes:

Can we still march on the capital with our guns just for fun?
But my goodness he is a butt kissing, "we love you", "you are a hero", "Minnesotans are such exceptional people who want everyone to move together in love and harmony so that no everyone will end up in the same place." I thought I would puke if I had to listen to one more word of "group hug" from the guy. Was their any butt not kissed including his own? "We have saved thousands of lives!!" Really?:sleep:
 

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But my goodness he is a butt kissing,
Yeah, there definitely was some of that but I was happy that he reminded people that the state received a D grade for social distancing. While things are getting better lately, still far too many people in the rural areas are not wearing masks in stores and there are still plenty of small town grocery and liquor stores that haven't put up plastic shields by the registers and aren't requiring their employees to wear masks.
 

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Sure he will. I was surprised and incorrect. All signs/"models" looked like he would follow other Dem states. No help for the bar/restaurant owners and I wouldn't be surprised to see that rug get pulled out prior to June 1. Another hellish two weeks for them.
Will Balds come back and eat crow?


But keep being resentful. You’ll be right eventually.
 

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But my goodness he is a butt kissing, "we love you", "you are a hero", "Minnesotans are such exceptional people who want everyone to move together in love and harmony so that no everyone will end up in the same place." I thought I would puke if I had to listen to one more word of "group hug" from the guy. Was their any butt not kissed including his own? "We have saved thousands of lives!!" Really?:sleep:
I can see that it might suit you more if he made up derisive nicknames and insulted half of the audience.
 

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Yeah, there definitely was some of that but I was happy that he reminded people that the state received a D grade for social distancing. While things are getting better lately, still far too many people in the rural areas are not wearing masks in stores and there are still plenty of small town grocery and liquor stores that haven't put up plastic shields by the registers and aren't requiring their employees to wear masks.
And yet these people live on. Or are they all going to die in two weeks?
 

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I would like to remind everyone that this is being done for a November election.
 

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So malls can open with 50% capacity, but restaurants, bars, and gyms can't? Even in rural areas? Who wants to explain that logic?

On June 1st bars/restaurants/gyms (other than takeout/delivery) will have been closed for 75 days. That for 81% of deaths occurring in LTC facilities, where people literally go to die.

Walz's grade has gone from A to F.
 

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So malls can open with 50% capacity, but restaurants, bars, and gyms can't? Even in rural areas? Who wants to explain that logic?

On June 1st bars/restaurants/gyms (other than takeout/delivery) will have been closed for 75 days. That for 81% of deaths occurring in LTC facilities, where people literally go to die.

Walz's grade has gone from A to F.
It is getting hard to understand the complete snubbing of the hospitality sector.
 

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He allows the order to expire and small businesses to reopen, yet his “grade” goes from A to F? Nice try, liar.
 

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So malls can open with 50% capacity, but restaurants, bars, and gyms can't? Even in rural areas? Who wants to explain that logic?

On June 1st bars/restaurants/gyms (other than takeout/delivery) will have been closed for 75 days. That for 81% of deaths occurring in LTC facilities, where people literally go to die.

Walz's grade has gone from A to F.
The mall of America and the other big malls can reopen? Or just the strip malls and small stores?
Barbers? Restaurants "maybe" on June 1? This sounds like smoke and mirrors to get people to hold off protesting to me. Lots of maybe this and maybe that.
 

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Under the executive order, a business owner, manager, or supervisor who encourages employees, contractors or others working for them to break the state’s rules can face a gross misdemeanor that carries a fine of up to $3,000 and a year in jail. Any individual who breaks the rules “willfully” can also face a misdemeanor that carries a fine of up to $1,000 and 90 days in prison, the order says.

Good heavens Walz is nearly as big of a Nazi as Governor Gretchen. This is garbage! grrr
 

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The address could have had a little more detail. I hope that Walz will do the daily briefing on Thursday and take questions from the media.

But, as I understand what was said on Wednesday:
-the stay-at-home order will end on Monday
-retail stores may open, but should keep customers at 50% capacity.
-people can congregate in groups of up to 10 people
-the state is preparing guidelines for bars, restaurants, fitness centers and hair salons to re-open by June 1st if they follow the recommendations
-the final step in the process will be larger-group gatherings including church services, athletic events and concerts.

But - if there is a significant increase in cases or fatalities, things could still be "dialed back" if necessary.

we still need some guidance on things like amateur baseball, summer HS sports leagues, campgrounds, state parks, playgrounds, etc.

I will say that Walz actually went further than I expected.

Oh - for the person who was talking about November - Walz is not up for election. Some of this could be an attempt to provide political cover for DFL candidates for State House and Senate, but most of the real objections were coming from rural MN, and those areas already vote primarily Republican.
 

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The mall of America and the other big malls can reopen? Or just the strip malls and small stores?
Barbers? Restaurants "maybe" on June 1? This sounds like smoke and mirrors to get people to hold off protesting to me. Lots of maybe this and maybe that.
What about my escort service? The girlz are itching to get back in business.
 

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The address could have had a little more detail. I hope that Walz will do the daily briefing on Thursday and take questions from the media.

But, as I understand what was said on Wednesday:
-the stay-at-home order will end on Monday
-retail stores may open, but should keep customers at 50% capacity.
-people can congregate in groups of up to 10 people
-the state is preparing guidelines for bars, restaurants, fitness centers and hair salons to re-open by June 1st if they follow the recommendations
-the final step in the process will be larger-group gatherings including church services, athletic events and concerts.

But - if there is a significant increase in cases or fatalities, things could still be "dialed back" if necessary.

we still need some guidance on things like amateur baseball, summer HS sports leagues, campgrounds, state parks, playgrounds, etc.

I will say that Walz actually went further than I expected.

Oh - for the person who was talking about November - Walz is not up for election. Some of this could be an attempt to provide political cover for DFL candidates for State House and Senate, but most of the real objections were coming from rural MN, and those areas already vote primarily Republican.
Re: November, I believe the feared goal is to provide cover for Walz to use his emergency power to compel voting by mail for all vs. go through the legislative process. If things are still bad, scary and kids still can't go to school, how can we go out and vote, etc.
 

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The address could have had a little more detail. I hope that Walz will do the daily briefing on Thursday and take questions from the media.

But, as I understand what was said on Wednesday:
-the stay-at-home order will end on Monday - replaced by effectively more of the same
-retail stores may open, but should keep customers at 50% capacity. which stores?
-people can congregate in groups of up to 10 people -this is effectively no change, everyone already was doing this anyway
-the state is preparing guidelines for bars, restaurants, fitness centers and hair salons to re-open by June 1st if they follow the recommendations-the state is "preparing guidelines"??? What do they do at the capital? Those guidelines should be out NOW so that people can prepare.
-the final step in the process will be larger-group gatherings including church services, athletic events and concerts. when?

But - if there is a significant increase in cases or fatalities, things could still be "dialed back" if necessary. mmmmhmmm

we still need some guidance on things like amateur baseball, summer HS sports leagues, campgrounds, state parks, playgrounds, etc. as well as basically on everything else

I will say that Walz actually went further than I expected. really??

Oh - for the person who was talking about November - Walz is not up for election. Some of this could be an attempt to provide political cover for DFL candidates for State House and Senate, but most of the real objections were coming from rural MN, and those areas already vote primarily Republican.
Thanks for the summary that's the best summary I have heard but....
Walz should be impeached. He is blowing smoke. Today sounds like an attempt at tossing out a little fake candy to the kiddos.
 

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Looking forward to the flip flop by the Rs when this whole thing backfires.
How will we know if this "backfires"?

The only thing we know for sure is we have done an incredible amount of damage to the economy as has been evidenced by the insane number of people on unemployment and the trillions of dollars spent to support these lock downs.

What we don't know is whether the outcome would have been discernibly different without these lengthy lock downs. We avoided mass overcrowding of our hospitals early on (most of us supported) but we are nowhere near a vaccine or herd immunity. Have we truly avoided a much larger number of deaths by COVID or have we just delayed the inevitable?

Also, we won't count the deaths by despair as a result of the lock downs but it most definitely should be part of the narrative.
 
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