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Sensible post, but you voted for this.
Specify: exactly who did I vote for, and what are their detailed public policy positions on this subject? No generalities; reply with details about individuals you know for a fact I voted for. Thanks in advance.
 

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Probably for the best and probably overdue. Always thought it was strange that they consider the movie unsuitable to air but themed a ride based on it.
 

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Probably for the best and probably overdue. Always thought it was strange that they consider the movie unsuitable to air but themed a ride based on it.
Kudos to Frank for pushing his own CNN story. I'm sure it's a real page-turner
 

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If you have a choice between being offended by something that is only just maybe possibly something and NOT being offended....choose not offended. Your life will go better. We were a lot better off when we let some things pass and kept on moving. You'll find this out. I hope not the hard way.
Mmmmm... "choose not offended". Interesting concept! We should "choose not offended" if there's "only just maybe something".

But, let's go beyond "only just maybe": If it had, indeed, turned out that someone — say, a member of the KKK — left a noose in the garage, would you still "choose not offended"? I hope not.

The other point I find fascinating is this focus on the size of the noose. If someone left a very, very small noose in a black child's locker at school, would you "choose not offended"? After all, it's very, very small noose, therefore no real threat. Right?

Maybe your true bottom line is this: racism doesn't actually exist. The looney left made it up. Is that the real essence?
 
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A noose would be a slip knot. For a garage pull, a fix loop Knot, not a slip knot, would be the desired knot. Two separate knots I would suspect.
From the grainy photos I've seen, the knot might be a uni-knot which wouldn't slip. Even a "noose" knot won't slip using rope and enough twists. Still, I can't believe I'm spending time on this. Weird.
 

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Mmmmm... "choose not offended". Interesting concept! We should "choose not offended" if there's "only just maybe something".

But, let's go beyond "only just maybe": If it had, indeed, turned out that someone — say, a member of the KKK — left a noose in the garage, would you still "choose not offended"? I hope not.

The other point I find fascinating is this focus on the size of the noose. If someone left a very, very small noose in a black child's locker at school, would you "choose not offended"? After all, it's very, very small noose, therefore no real threat. Right?

Maybe your true bottom line is this: racism doesn't actually exist. The looney left made it up. Is that the real essence?
Racism does exist- at the margins. America is not a racist nation nor is there systemic racism. The more efforts there are to create equality of result- the worse things get. Entitlements and quotas are a road to hell.

The left is looney. That part you got right. The fact that they have to make up racist hoaxes like this is proof positive that racism is not the problem they want it to be. The Dems do not want to solve problems, ever. They love the problems. It is their whole basis for power. Learn that and you understand the left.
 

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Racism does exist- at the margins. America is not a racist nation nor is there systemic racism. The more efforts there are to create equality of result- the worse things get. Entitlements and quotas are a road to hell.

The left is looney. That part you got right. The fact that they have to make up racist hoaxes like this is proof positive that racism is not the problem they want it to be. The Dems do not want to solve problems, ever. They love the problems. It is their whole basis for power. Learn that and you understand the left.
Okay, you replied and you did so relatively respectfully.

Could it be you see racism "only at the margins", and don't believe there is systemic racism in America because you happen to be white, and therefore have never experienced racism yourself?
 

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Okay, you replied and you did so relatively respectfully.

Could it be you see racism "only at the margins", and don't believe there is systemic racism in America because you happen to be white, and therefore have never experienced racism yourself?
No.
 

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No possibility, none at all, that you might see things differently if you were black?
 

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Okay, you replied and you did so relatively respectfully.

Could it be you see racism "only at the margins", and don't believe there is systemic racism in America because you happen to be white, and therefore have never experienced racism yourself?
I think true racism (the definition states that one views their race superior) is at the fringes. However, I think prejudices are rampant out there and exist in all races, creeds, nationalities, etc....We all pre-judge folks on many things.
I do agree with you that it’s hard for me to see things the same way as folks of a different skin color.
 

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Mmmmm... "choose not offended". Interesting concept! We should "choose not offended" if there's "only just maybe something".

But, let's go beyond "only just maybe": If it had, indeed, turned out that someone — say, a member of the KKK — left a noose in the garage, would you still "choose not offended"? I hope not.

The other point I find fascinating is this focus on the size of the noose. If someone left a very, very small noose in a black child's locker at school, would you "choose not offended"? After all, it's very, very small noose, therefore no real threat. Right?

Maybe your true bottom line is this: racism doesn't actually exist. The looney left made it up. Is that the real essence?
But none of those things actually happened. Just like there wasn't a racist symbol found in the garage.
 

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Here's an example of why liberalism/leftism is a mental illness. Case in point, Minneapolis' own Mitchell Erickson qualifies as the moron of the week. Got held up at gun point by two black youths, gave them his house keys (they wanted his car) and then called the police. Now he regrets it. What. An. Idiot.

Of course this story was repeated incorrectly by a co-worker of mine. She stated that this man is a hero for not getting those children killed by calling 911. Oops. He did call 911 and then became a moron after. Not calling 911 is not only moronic but dangerous for the next person they point a gun at. Another example of caring more about criminals than innocent people.
 

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But none of those things actually happened. Just like there wasn't a racist symbol found in the garage.
The question was based on the fact that those types of things do sometimes happen. And when they do happen, are you appalled? Offended? Or, are you unmoved?

Then again, perhaps you think those sorts of things never happen...?
 

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Mmmmm... "choose not offended". Interesting concept! We should "choose not offended" if there's "only just maybe something".

But, let's go beyond "only just maybe": If it had, indeed, turned out that someone — say, a member of the KKK — left a noose in the garage, would you still "choose not offended"? I hope not.

The other point I find fascinating is this focus on the size of the noose. If someone left a very, very small noose in a black child's locker at school, would you "choose not offended"? After all, it's very, very small noose, therefore no real threat. Right?

Maybe your true bottom line is this: racism doesn't actually exist. The looney left made it up. Is that the real essence?
The left's playbook is pretty obvious at this point. Take offense, that's power. Claim that some speech puts your life in danger, that's been really effective in news rooms and universities. Find anecdotes that prove your systemic racism claims, when the macro data doesn't support.
Racism exists. Systemic racism is not a problem in the US. The US is the most open society in the world by far. Every major corporation and power structure in the US is actively anti racist. If it's not generating the results you want (equality of opportunity), maybe your thesis is wrong.
But we all know that this is about achieving a socialist or communist revolution. If you oppose that, wake up.
 

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The left's playbook is pretty obvious at this point. Take offense, that's power. Claim that some speech puts your life in danger, that's been really effective in news rooms and universities. Find anecdotes that prove your systemic racism claims, when the macro data doesn't support.
Racism exists. Systemic racism is not a problem in the US. The US is the most open society in the world by far. Every major corporation and power structure in the US is actively anti racist. If it's not generating the results you want (equality of opportunity), maybe your thesis is wrong.
But we all know that this is about achieving a socialist or communist revolution. If you oppose that, wake up.
People on both wings of the spectrum--and that includes you--need to be self-aware enough to recognize that they both get their energy from grievance. It's the adults within one standard deviation of the mean who are left with the messy business of running things amongst all the noise.
 

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We have successfully graduated to redefining "bias" as "racist". There is bias everywhere, no doubt about it.
 

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People on both wings of the spectrum--and that includes you--need to be self-aware enough to recognize that they both get their energy from grievance. It's the adults within one standard deviation of the mean who are left with the messy business of running things amongst all the noise.
Injustice in the world exists. In the US there is a TON of injustice. But there's also less injustice here than almost any other country on earth.
Libertarians I do not believe engage in grievance politics. a) we aren't singling out ourselves as uniquely harmed b) we don't use identity politics
do white supremacy type groups do that? yes they do, so if that's what you were referring to, fine.
The left is almost EXCLUSIVELY run by identity politics. Both sidesism doesn't work on this topic, no.

Libertarians simply correctly point out the cause of any particular problem. The conclusion is obvious, as is the solution. Is that a grievance? No it's not. In fact, you could state that the entire point of libertarian philosophy is to stamp out and eliminate all injustice. Non aggression principle is not based on grievance. Natural rights are not based on grievance.

But that's ok, very few get it.
 

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Since we're woke-banning all things related to the Confederacy, can we now ban the Democratic Party? That'd be a good step to getting rid of "you aint' black" "superpredators that have to be taught to heel" racism.
 

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OK - this is getting really nuts.

The Murray County Central school district in SW MN had to hold a special meeting because they are receiving complaints/concerns from residents about the district mascot/logo being potentially "inappropriate."

The School's nickname - "The Rebels."

I'm a computer klutz, so I can't post an image here, but it's easy to google.

If the Rebel mascot is inappropriate, then let's just ban all mascots and nicknames.
 

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OK - this is getting really nuts.

The Murray County Central school district in SW MN had to hold a special meeting because they are receiving complaints/concerns from residents about the district mascot/logo being potentially "inappropriate."

The School's nickname - "The Rebels."

I'm a computer klutz, so I can't post an image here, but it's easy to google.

If the Rebel mascot is inappropriate, then let's just ban all mascots and nicknames.
It's UNLV's fault.
 
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