So there is a migrant caravan

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Will the lefties believe Kamala? Or is she Trump in disguise?


California state Latino lawmakers issued a statement Wednesday rebuking Vice President Kamala Harris’ controversial comments in El Salvador this week when she told "folks" from Central, "Do not come" to the United States.

Harris received swift backlash from members of her own party for attempting to dissuade Central American migrants from traveling to the U.S. by warning them they will be turned away – a stance that echoed Trump-era policies.

The California Latino Legislative Caucus reflected comments made by Democrats like New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who called Harris’ remarks "disappointing."

"In keeping with past precedent we should not discourage asylum seekers from seeking a better life. They are doing what they need to do to survive," the California lawmakers said in a statement. "As such, we urge the Biden-Harris administration and Congress to follow the moral and legal imperative to create a process to allow all asylum seekers to come to this country as a part of a larger, long-overdue comprehensive reform of our immigration system."

"I want to be clear to folks in this region who are thinking about making that dangerous trek to the United States-Mexico border: Do not come. Do not come," Harris said. "The United States will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border. There are legal methods by which migration can and should occur. But we, as one of our priorities, will discourage illegal migration. And I believe if you come to our border, you will be turned back."
 

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We still have migrant caravans? Well, one thing's for certain: we still have no big, beautiful wall.

After four long years.

What the hell? Was it all a lie? Trump wasn't just bullshitting, was he, Galty?
 

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We still have migrant caravans? Well, one thing's for certain: we still have no big, beautiful wall.

After four long years.

What the hell? Was it all a lie? Trump wasn't just bullshitting, was he, Galty?
Why did the obstructionists stop it?
 

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Why did the obstructionists stop it?

How could mealy-mouthed, limp-wristed, elitist, chablis-sipping socialist opponents possibly have stopped a self-proclaimed genius, self-made billionaire and manly-man?

You're saying Trump failed because he couldn't beat Grandma Nacy Pelosi?!?!
 

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How could mealy-mouthed, limp-wristed, elitist, chablis-sipping socialist opponents possibly have stopped a self-proclaimed genius, self-made billionaire and manly-man?
Did they fund the wall? Yes or no?
 


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Did they fund the wall? Yes or no?

No! They did not!

You see, apparently Trump never did grasp the fact that he'd have to work cooperatively with the legislative branch in order to make his ludicrous wet-dream happen. He didn't comprehend that a president is not a dictator, nor a king.

I guess Trump must have paid somebody to take his American Civics 101 exams.

Also, The Art of the Deal must have been written by someone else.
 

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Biden wouldn’t have created a crisis at the border if TRUMP had completed the construction of the RACIST wall.

That is some serious leftist lunacy.
 

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No! They did not!

You see, apparently Trump never did grasp the fact that he'd have to work cooperatively with the legislative branch in order to make his ludicrous wet-dream happen. He didn't comprehend that a president is not a dictator, nor a king.

I guess Trump must have paid somebody to take his American Civics 101 exams.

Also, The Art of the Deal must have been written by someone else.
Does Biden grasp that he has to work with Republicans to get legislation passed? Biden made lots of campaign promises to please the most left.

Almost 40 years in the Senate and he still made those promises.
 

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Does Biden grasp that he has to work with Republicans to get legislation passed? Biden made lots of campaign promises to please the most left.

Almost 40 years in the Senate and he still made those promises.

Wall: Success, or abysmal failure?

Wall: Broken promise, or cheap con lapped up by the most gullible?
 



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Biden wouldn’t have created a crisis situation at the border if TRUMP had completed the construction of the RACIST wall that Biden stopped construction of on day 1 in office.

That is some serious leftist lunacy.
FIFY
 

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No! They did not!

You see, apparently Trump never did grasp the fact that he'd have to work cooperatively with the legislative branch in order to make his ludicrous wet-dream happen. He didn't comprehend that a president is not a dictator, nor a king.

I guess Trump must have paid somebody to take his American Civics 101 exams.

Also, The Art of the Deal must have been written by someone else.
Did Trump try and work cooperatively with Congress to get the wall funded? I think the answer is yes. Was there any way the Dems were ever going to go along? No.
 

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Did Trump try and work cooperatively with Congress to get the wall funded? I think the answer is yes. Was there any way the Dems were ever going to go along? No.

Yeah....let's encourage a moron by letting him build a wall (monument to himself) that people can cut through, scale, go underneath, or that simply falls over by itself. Brilliant. Got to keep president dipshit happy.
 




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Did Trump try and work cooperatively with Congress to get the wall funded? I think the answer is yes. Was there any way the Dems were ever going to go along? No.
I'll see you and raise Mitch McConnell.
 

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Did Trump try and work cooperatively with Congress to get the wall funded? I think the answer is yes. Was there any way the Dems were ever going to go along? No.

You're saying Trump was gobsmacked by the fact that we have two oppositional parties in the US government?

That's interesting. We've been told over and over, for years, that career politicians are useless, and even downright evil.

But it appears the Great Businessman and Dealmaker — the non-politician, the anti-politician — had some holes in his education. He apparently needed to learn a thing or two about how a republic functions, as opposed to running a sole proprietor business.

It isn't quite so top down, it would seem.
 

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We still have migrant caravans? Well, one thing's for certain: we still have no big, beautiful wall.

After four long years.

What the hell? Was it all a lie? Trump wasn't just bullshitting, was he, Galty?
Do you not know the difference between a lie and being wrong?
 

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You're saying Trump was gobsmacked by the fact that we have two oppositional parties in the US government?

That's interesting. We've been told over and over, for years, that career politicians are useless, and even downright evil.

But it appears the Great Businessman and Dealmaker had some holes in his education. He apparently needed to learn a thing or two about how a republic functions, as opposed to a sole proprietor business.

Not quite so top down, I guess.
As gobsmacked as any other politician that is not able to fulfill campaign promises because they are derailed by the opposing party.

Are you new to politics?
 

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As gobsmacked as any other politician that is not able to fulfill campaign promises because they are derailed by the opposing party.

Are you new to politics?

So are we blaming the two party system for Trump's failure now, Bob?

Are you opposed to a two party system?
 

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So are we blaming the two party system for Trump's failure now, Bob?

Are you opposed to a two party system?
LOL. I'm not blaming any body. I think the single most important aspect of American politics is that our checks and balances makes things more slow. I fully understand that means I won't always get what I want. It's a trade off.

Specifically, if you're asking about the two-party system. Yeah, I think ideally we would have a couple more parties with enough juice to matter.

As to the point you're pretending to not understand - - politicians can't always deliver on campaign promises. It doesn't make them liars (they usually are liars but not because of that).
 

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LOL. I'm not blaming any body. I think the single most important aspect of American politics is that our checks and balances makes things more slow. I fully understand that means I won't always get what I want. It's a trade off.

Specifically, if you're asking about the two-party system. Yeah, I think ideally we would have a couple more parties with enough juice to matter.

As to the point you're pretending to not understand - - politicians can't always deliver on campaign promises. It doesn't make them liars (they usually are liars but not because of that).

Politicians?

I thought we were discussing a non-politician; the one-and-only anti-politician. That was how he billed himself. That was his most recent reality TV role.

Was that all just another con job?
 

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Politicians?

I thought we were discussing a non-politician; the one-and-only anti-politician. That was how he billed himself. That was his most recent reality TV role.

Was that all just another con job?
We are talking about the President of the United States. He was not a career politician, but the POTUS is a political position. Are you pretending to be this obtuse again?

You think it's a con job that someone running for President is involved in politics? You've had a lot of horrific senile takes, but this is your worst. You might need to ask for a second pudding today.
 

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As to the point you're pretending to not understand - - politicians can't always deliver on campaign promises. It doesn't make them liars (they usually are liars but not because of that).
The lie he told is that Mexico would pay for it.
 

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We are talking about the President of the United States. He was not a career politician, but the POTUS is a political position. Are you pretending to be this obtuse again?

You think it's a con job that someone running for President is involved in politics? You've had a lot of horrific senile takes, but this is your worst. You might need to ask for a second pudding today.

You keep using the word pretending.

I find that ironic coming from someone who is now, at long last, admitting that Trump had feet of clay! You apparently knew all along he was an empty suit, yet you defended him and continue to defend him to this day.

Doesn't that involve a bit of pretending on your part? After all, if these people are all equally corrupt, dishonest and ineffectual then why should any of us bother to defend any of them?
 

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The lie he told is that Mexico would pay for it.

I don't know if it was a lie as much as an idiotic thing to say. I actually hope it was a lie, that'd be less embarrassing than if he thought he could actually get them to pay for it.

Sort of like a battle between his ego & his stupidity.
 

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I don't know if it was a lie as much as an idiotic thing to say. I actually hope it was a lie, that'd be less embarrassing than if he thought he could actually get them to pay for it.

Sort of like a battle between his ego & his stupidity.

He was either too dumb to know it would never happen, or he was smart enough to see that his red hat followers were too dumb to know it would never happen.
 

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You keep using the word pretending.

I find that ironic coming from someone who is now, at long last, admitting that Trump had feet of clay! You apparently knew all along he was an empty suit, yet you defended him and continue to defend him to this day.

Doesn't that involve a bit of pretending on your part? After all, if these people are all equally corrupt, dishonest and ineffectual then why should any of us bother to defend any of them?
You are pretending to not understand simple things.

I apparently knew all along he was an empty suit? YEAH. I've always said that about politicians. I knew he wasn't declared king. How are you missing this? I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in saying you're pretending to be this stupid. You really cannot be missing the point.

Lets say you liked Obama a lot and he didn't deliver on all of his campaign promises - - does that (in itself) make him an empty suit? Of course not. It's the intentional design of the system (and I'm 100% for it). This isn't that complicated, so I really hope you're pretending to not get it.

I never said all people are equally corrupt, dishonest, and ineffectual. LOL. Never have I said that. I strongly don't believe that.
 


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Lets say you liked Obama a lot and he didn't deliver on all of his campaign promises.

I wonder if Alinsky (RM) will hold Obama accountable for knowingly lying about Obamacare?
 

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You are pretending to not understand simple things.

I apparently knew all along he was an empty suit? YEAH. I've always said that about politicians. I knew he wasn't declared king. How are you missing this? I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in saying you're pretending to be this stupid. You really cannot be missing the point.

Lets say you liked Obama a lot and he didn't deliver on all of his campaign promises - - does that (in itself) make him an empty suit? Of course not. It's the intentional design of the system (and I'm 100% for it). This isn't that complicated, so I really hope you're pretending to not get it.

I never said all people are equally corrupt, dishonest, and ineffectual. LOL. Never have I said that. I strongly don't believe that.

Once I finally got you to admit to Trump's failures and phoniness, you quickly began to argue that both sides are equally bad. "All politician make promises they can't or don't keep" is your new mantra. An equivalence argument. And yet you pretend you aren't doing precisely that.

As far as my alleged lack of comprehension is concerned, the only thing I don't get is how you guys can double-talk as much as you do and still respect yourselves.
 

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I don't know if it was a lie as much as an idiotic thing to say. I actually hope it was a lie, that'd be less embarrassing than if he thought he could actually get them to pay for it.

Sort of like a battle between his ego & his stupidity.
It was both.
 




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