RIP Internal Combustion Engine - General Motors to go all-electric by 2035 and carbon-neutral by 2040

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General Motors has committed to transitioning its entire fleet of light-duty vehicles to zero-emissions powertrains by 2035 as part of an effort to go carbon neutral across the company by 2040. GM is in the process of launching 30 all-electric models by 2025 and expects the roll-out to accelerate in the following years. The 2035 goal applies to cars and light-duty trucks, with heavy and medium-duty trucks following by 2040.

With the move, GM becomes the first major legacy automaker to put a hard date on finalizing an all-electric vehicle lineup.“General Motors is joining governments and companies around the globe working to establish a safer, greener and better world,” GM Chairman and CEO Mary Bara said in a release on the pledge. “We encourage others to follow suit and make a significant impact on our industry and on the economy as a whole.”

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/general-motors-all-electric-2035
 
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General Motors has committed to transitioning its entire fleet of light-duty vehicles to zero-emissions powertrains by 2035 as part of an effort to go carbon neutral across the company by 2040.

GM is in the process of launching 30 all-electric models by 2025 and expects the roll-out to accelerate in the following years. The 2035 goal applies to cars and light-duty trucks, with heavy and medium-duty trucks following by 2040.

With the move, GM becomes the first major legacy automaker to put a hard date on finalizing an all-electric vehicle lineup.

“General Motors is joining governments and companies around the globe working to establish a safer, greener and better world,” GM Chairman and CEO Mary Bara said in a release on the pledge.

“We encourage others to follow suit and make a significant impact on our industry and on the economy as a whole.”

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/general-motors-all-electric-2035
I’ll take the over.
 

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Good! Kill ethanol! Stop using crops for fuel and manipulating crop prices.

Kill gasoline, too!
 

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Good! Kill ethanol! Stop using crops for fuel and manipulating crop prices.

Kill gasoline, too!
Government mandates the use of ethanol. Seems your ire should be directed elsewhere.
and to OP
Coca Cola commits to new coke by 1985
 

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...and the damage to the planet from depleted batteries will be much greater than the fossil fuels burned...
 

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Government mandates the use of ethanol. Seems your ire should be directed elsewhere.
and to OP
Coca Cola commits to new coke by 1985
Oh I'm aware. The mandate will die with electric vehicles.
 

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I'll take the under.

Fifteen years is a long time in tech/industry. 15 years ago was pre-bailout when US cars were poorly made gas guzzlers. I think they've improved a lot since then. Consumer & government pressure will make it worthwhile. And the first major US car company to commit should get a leg up on the competition for the next generation of cars.
 

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...and the damage to the planet from depleted batteries will be much greater than the fossil fuels burned...
Not if scientists figure out a clean way to recycle/dispose of them before they start piling up like plastic.
 

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And the first major US car company to commit should get a leg up on the competition for the next generation of cars.
Or, just not be too late to compete with Tesla's world domination. :(
 

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...and the damage to the planet from depleted batteries will be much greater than the fossil fuels burned...
Now, now, now.......details.

What's the recycling plan for all the solar panels? Wind turbines? How much is leftover?

A LOT. Lefties dont care about the environment.
 

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I don't think solar panels deminish in performance/capacity over time/use, like chemical batteries do. I think they just keep working. Similar with generators, some of which don't even have permanent magnets. As long as you keep the moving parts in good working order, the generator itself will always just keep working.
 

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Not if scientists figure out a clean way to recycle/dispose of them before they start piling up like plastic.
Exactly, battery components to valuable to throw away. They will be recycled.
 

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I don't think solar panels deminish in performance/capacity over time/use, like chemical batteries do. I think they just keep working. Similar with generators, some of which don't even have permanent magnets. As long as you keep the moving parts in good working order, the generator itself will always just keep working.
Solar panels definitely diminish over time. The sun is harsh.
 

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Storage nightmare. You need specialized tanks because if you try to store hydrogen in steel it degrades the steel and causes cracking. Plus the high pressure required is very energy intensive. Hydrogen ain't going main stream.
 

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I saw a news feature on the local tv about a man who is splitting wood and delivering the wood to homeless camps. That damn fossil fuel...
 

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Storage nightmare. You need specialized tanks because if you try to store hydrogen in steel it degrades the steel and causes cracking. Plus the high pressure required is very energy intensive. Hydrogen ain't going main stream.
...and back to efficient fossil fuels...
 

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Solar panels definitely diminish over time. The sun is harsh.
If that's true, then fine. I don't see why the actual film would. I could see the plastic or whatever that goes on top of it becoming less clear, like when an older car has faded headlight covers.
 

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Storage nightmare. You need specialized tanks because if you try to store hydrogen in steel it degrades the steel and causes cracking. Plus the high pressure required is very energy intensive. Hydrogen ain't going main stream.
Liquid hydrogen is difficult too, because of extreme cold temps needed.

Electric engines have been known superior to gasoline engines, for many decades. The problem has always been a good way to port around electric energy with you.
 

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Liquid hydrogen is difficult too, because of extreme cold temps needed.

Electric engines have been known superior to gasoline engines, for many decades. The problem has always been a good way to port around electric energy with you.
...and back to efficient fossil fuels...
 

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Storage nightmare. You need specialized tanks because if you try to store hydrogen in steel it degrades the steel and causes cracking. Plus the high pressure required is very energy intensive. Hydrogen ain't going main stream.
There are logistical, distribution and other issues with any fuel source for powering motor vehicles. I don't think we should rule anything out. If you begin with the end in mind, hydrogen is the most attractive energy source in terms of cleanness and renewability. Electrical power needs to be generated in some way, and that's not always very clean itself.

I've been saying for decades that we need a Manhattan Project to fully investigate and develop hydrogen fuel for motor vehicles. I'm standing by that.
 

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What is "efficient fossil fuels"?
Clean burning, efficient combustion engines.

The truth is that nature itself produces much more gas into the ozone than humans do. The US is improving drastically. It's the socialist/communist regimes of Asia that are abusing the planet. Go there and whine. (Although you'll likely be locked up or killed before you can do much.)
 

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Clean burning, efficient combustion engines.

The truth is that nature itself produces much more gas into the ozone than humans do. The US is improving drastically. It's the socialist/communist regimes of Asia that are abusing the planet. Go there and whine. (Although you'll likely be locked up or killed before you can do much.)
China has announced it wants to be carbon neutral by 2060.

What is "clean burning"? It seems like a nice sounding phrase, but with no details I'm not sure it is anything more than nice sounding.

What is "efficient"? It's always nice to have higher mileage per gallon, if that's what you mean, but emissions are the issue here.
 
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