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Bernie winning so far, but not running away. Pete and Amy in a tight race for 2nd. Biden: Woof.
 

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Oh, this is going to be fun...the Communist wing vs THE most left candidates ever nominated wing.

There’s going to be some big time internal fighting in the Democrat Party.
 

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Warren and Biden should bow out.
 

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Biden is going to find out he has no pull as the dotting old fool of the party. Yesterdays policies. Yesterdays arguments. And, of course, telling a voter off in the most arcane reference known to only the geriatric set.
 

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Biden is going to find out he has no pull as the dotting old fool of the party. Yesterdays policies. Yesterdays arguments. And, of course, telling a voter off in the most arcane reference known to only the geriatric set.
The black vote. That’s his only card.
 

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Biden was always going to stay until SC. I don't understand Warren's argument for continuing.
Not wanting it to be over, just like that, after all the work she put in? Disbelief that people really don’t want her to be the candidate?
 

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Elizabeth Warren. LMAO!

She'll stay in at the behest of the DNC/Hillary to prevent Sanders from consolidating her vote and gaining delegates.
 

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Not wanting it to be over, just like that, after all the work she put in? Disbelief that people really don’t want her to be the candidate?
She seems fairly pragmatic. She decided to run in Bernie's lane. She lost. Trying to be the "compromise" between Sanders and Pete/Amy won't work.
 

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I found the exit polling informative. 61% of Democratic respondants said they were female, 81% said they favored legalize pot, 22% said that Bernie would run the economy best of all candidates, 14% said E. Warren would, all other candidates much lower. Amy got 6% on the economy and on foreign policy yet 14% voted for her! Why then? Huge majorities favored carbon taxes and more regulation of business. The largest percentages thought Joe Biden would be best at foreign policy and running the economy yet he finished fifth with a very low vote (11%).? 9% said they were not hetro. Informative.
 

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She seems fairly pragmatic. She decided to run in Bernie's lane. She lost. Trying to be the "compromise" between Sanders and Pete/Amy won't work.
You’re right. She made her bet and played that play. In honesty, I bet she’s a lot more practical than that, in reality. Bet she wishes she went that route now. Maybe not
 

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She seems fairly pragmatic. She decided to run in Bernie's lane. She lost. Trying to be the "compromise" between Sanders and Pete/Amy won't work.
The longer Warren stays in while Bernie remains the front runner, the worse for Amy. My guess is that Warren is holding more Bernie and potential Amy votes than Mayo Pete and Biden votes.
 

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The longer Warren stays in while Bernie remains the front runner, the worse for Amy. My guess is that Warren is holding more Bernie and potential Amy votes than Mayo Pete and Biden votes.
Bernie eeked out a 2 point win in a neighboring state he won by 20 4 years ago.

2016: Bernie 60%. Not Bernie 40%.
2020: Bernie 26%. Not Bernie 74%.
 

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Bernie eeked out a 2 point win in a neighboring state he won by 20 4 years ago.

2016: Bernie 60%. Not Bernie 40%.
2020: Bernie 26%. Not Bernie 74%.
So many socialists to vote for now! Very confusing!
 

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Bernie eeked out a 2 point win in a neighboring state he won by 20 4 years ago.

2016: Bernie 60%. Not Bernie 40%.
2020: Bernie 26%. Not Bernie 74%.
100% not solely Hillary as an opponent in this election.

Apples and oranges. Give people more choices and they’re going to make them.
 

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100% not solely Hillary as an opponent in this election.

Apples and oranges. Give people more choices and they’re going to make them.
Yes. But getting less than 30%? Less than half of his previous vote? I guarantee you that their goal was not 26%, a 2 point win tonight and a tie in delegates.
 

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Bernie eeked out a 2 point win in a neighboring state he won by 20 4 years ago.

2016: Bernie 60%. Not Bernie 40%.
2020: Bernie 26%. Not Bernie 74%.
2016 was the year of the novelty candidate getting attention and that being cute, knowing that they ultimately wouldn’t win of course and that Jeb and Hillary had been ordained.

2020 people are being serious.
 

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2016 was the year of the novelty candidate getting attention and that being cute, knowing that they ultimately wouldn’t win of course and that Jeb and Hillary had been ordained.

2020 people are being serious.
Some truth. Some of his 2016 vote was "anyone but Hillary".
 

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Some truth. Some of his 2016 vote was "anyone but Hillary".
Still can’t understand that cow manure.

Hillary didn’t do a single thing - not one - that personally injured any American.

Lot of Americans need a messiah to believe in, and just as much they need an anti-messiah to hate for no logical reason. Their minds crave and need that, just as their bodies need water.
 

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Yes. But getting less than 30%? Less than half of his previous vote? I guarantee you that their goal was not 26%, a 2 point win tonight and a tie in delegates.
I’m guessing Warren’s support is more likely to go to Bernie and Amy (socialist or women’s vote). Amy needs every percentage point she can get in her fight with Pete and Bloomberg.
 

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The longer Warren stays in while Bernie remains the front runner, the worse for Amy. My guess is that Warren is holding more Bernie and potential Amy votes than Mayo Pete and Biden votes.
I heard that Warren drew roughly equally between Clinton and Sanders 2016 primary voters (obviously she would have gotten some who didn't vote for either as well). The half that voted for Clinton in 2016 won't go very heavily to Sanders; the majority of voters who preferred Clinton in the 2016 primary don't care much for Sanders.
 

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Still can’t understand that cow manure.

Hillary didn’t do a single thing - not one - that personally injured any American.

Lot of Americans need a messiah to believe in, and just as much they need an anti-messiah to hate for no logical reason. Their minds crave and need that, just as their bodies need water.
Other than running perhaps the most corrupt and blatant pay for play scheme in American history, while SOS, she was a saint.

As far as "injuries," I think all of the persons involved are dead now....
 

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I heard that Warren drew roughly equally between Clinton and Sanders 2016 primary voters (obviously she would have gotten some who didn't vote for either as well). The half that voted for Clinton in 2016 won't go very heavily to Sanders; the majority of voters who preferred Clinton in the 2016 primary don't care much for Sanders.
And I’d bet a lot of the Hillary voters like women candidates, which is why I think Amy would cash in with.
 
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