Right! We have college basketball, China can have the NBA.I don't care about the NBA.
+1I don't care about the NBA.
i've seen people tweet about it, but like so much on twitter unless you have context the tweets are meaningless.No thread on this? I guess I'm not surprised. A bunch of cowards.
Nothing to see here. It's just China exerting control over their part of the world just like the U.S. and Russia have been doing in their parts of the world since WWII. It shouldn't surprise anyone. China's message to the world is if you want to do business in China you do it our way or not at all. China is not going to roll over on Hong Kong and Taiwan just like they aren't going to roll over on the Trumpster's tariffs. It won't matter to their leaders how much their economy suffers in the short term. They are thinking long term and they believe China is well on its' way to becoming the most dominant country in the world. Others think that, too:No thread on this? I guess I'm not surprised. A bunch of cowards.
Short story:i've seen people tweet about it, but like so much on twitter unless you have context the tweets are meaningless.
what's going on?
+ freedom and all of America.Morey is correct.
Of course, what is happening in Hong Kong is sad, but it is also inevitable. Hong Kong is part of China which allows it to operate in accordance with the capitalist system it had from 1898 to 1997 under the 99 year lease to Great Britain. Once the lease expired without getting renewed the handwriting was on the wall. Since 1997 the residents of Hong Kong have been able to do only what China has allowed them to do. Hong Kong ceased being an example of laissez faire capitalism 21 years ago. That's not ever going to change.China is cracking down hard on anyone expressing support for Hong Kong and its sad. Last best example of laissez faire capitalism, the leftists like Cruze can’t wait to destroy it.
Steve Kerr, Popovich, the NBA commissioner, and so on, value the money that China puts in their pockets more than they value the freedom of the people of Hong Kong.No thread on this? I guess I'm not surprised. A bunch of cowards.
Huh? Private enterprises looking out for their bottom lines. Isn’t this what you have been preaching for 40,000 posts? Now you are mocking it? Make up your mind.No thread on this? I guess I'm not surprised. A bunch of cowards.
Pop and Kerr are looking out for their bottom line? Is that why they rip Trump constantly?Huh? Private enterprises looking out for their bottom lines. Isn’t this what you have been preaching for 40,000 posts? Now you are mocking it? Make up your mind.
Still the freest place on earth. The world could get that to change if it cared. I know you aren’t sad. Places like Hong Kong are proof that your ideology is a failure. Which do you hate more? Hong Kong or Venezuela?Of course what is happening in Hong Kong is sad, but it is also inevitable. Hong Kong is part of China which allows it to operate in accordance with the capitalist system it had from 1898 to 1997 under the 99 year lease to Great Britain. Once the lease expired without getting renewed the handwriting was on the wall. Since 1997 the residents of Hong Kong have been able to do only what China has allowed them to do. Hong Kong ceased being an example of laissez faire capitalism 21 years ago. That's not ever going to change.
What’s that slithering sound we all hear? Don’t worry folks, it’s just Section2! Maybe they figure it won’t hurt them a bit and can’t stand the guy?Pop and Kerr are looking out for their bottom line? Is that why they rip Trump constantly?
A sign? At a sizers game? Sounds horrible. Great point though. Totally in line with your supposed principles.The NBA can choose to support totalitarian communism over Americans and liberty. I saw someone with a sign at the sizers game get escorted out. I just hope Americans vote with their wallet. We will see who they choose.
Hypocrisy on both sides it would appear. Pretty sure conservatives spent the last decade complaining about politics in sports. Well here we are, NBA doesn't want to get political. Y'all got what you wanted! I believe the exact words were "Shut up and dribble."I don't care what the NBA does and I doubt S2 does either. I think he is pointing out the incredible hypocrisy of the NBA who gets all riled up about Trump and about social justice while they bow down to China the country that is one of the greatest abusers of human rights, one of the greatest polluters and one of the most restrictive of personal freedom. If Trump were doing any of the things China does, the uproar would be incredible. I hope the NBA pays the penalty with US fans for their cowardice and hypocrisy, but they have every right to do it to protect their Chinese cash.
LOL. I see, you want the athletes to speak in favor of China but not America. Got it. I guess we know who you are.Hypocrisy on both sides it would appear. Pretty sure conservatives spent the last decade complaining about politics in sports. Well here we are, NBA doesn't want to get political. Y'all got what you wanted! I believe the exact words were "Shut up and dribble."
You're putting words in my mouth (which appears to be a common strategy around here). I didn't say that at all. In fact I would like it if the NBA took a stronger free speech position with China. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the conservatives who are all upset at people they've repeatedly told to stay out of politics for not getting involved in politics. It's pretty funny actually. In short: China-bad. Right Wingers angry- funnyLOL. I see, you want the athletes to speak in favor of China but not America. Got it. I guess we know who you are.
Do we? It's hard to tell lately.Right! We have college basketball, China can have the NBA.
LOL on the bolded! You are really taking a stand!You're putting words in my mouth (which appears to be a common strategy around here). I didn't say that at all. In fact I would like it if the NBA took a stronger free speech position with China. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the conservatives who are all upset at people they've repeatedly told to stay out of politics for not getting involved in politics. It's pretty funny actually. In short: China-bad. Right Wingers angry- funny
This is pretty spot on.You're putting words in my mouth (which appears to be a common strategy around here). I didn't say that at all. In fact I would like it if the NBA took a stronger free speech position with China. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the conservatives who are all upset at people they've repeatedly told to stay out of politics for not getting involved in politics. It's pretty funny actually. In short: China-bad. Right Wingers angry- funny
It’s not hypocrisy to not want athletes to use their platform to express a divisive or “woke” political opinion while representing the team or sport that we fund through our attendance or viewership.Hypocrisy on both sides it would appear. Pretty sure conservatives spent the last decade complaining about politics in sports. Well here we are, NBA doesn't want to get political. Y'all got what you wanted! I believe the exact words were "Shut up and dribble."
In other words, it's ok to be outspoken about your beliefs, but it's not ok to be outspoken about beliefs in opposition to yours.It’s not hypocrisy to not want athletes to use their platform to express a divisive or “woke” political opinion while representing the team or sport that we fund through our attendance or viewership.
They can do whatever they want on their time, but when they’re representing a team or pro sports, they should shut up about divisive political issues.
Whether they are representing a team or sport or themselves, it’s always appropriate to support the American values of freedom and liberty. To ignore the abuses of China solely b/c they are profiting from that totalitarian Communist state, is anti-American and cowardly, but especially cowardly when they have so little issue publicly disparaging Americans of opposing political beliefs.
Got it?
This would be correct.In other words, it's ok to be outspoken about your beliefs, but it's not ok to be outspoken about beliefs in opposition to yours.
I guess if it's political to support democracy in Hong Kong, you are right. Only RWNJs care about that?Hypocrisy on both sides it would appear. Pretty sure conservatives spent the last decade complaining about politics in sports. Well here we are, NBA doesn't want to get political. Y'all got what you wanted! I believe the exact words were "Shut up and dribble."
We found out which views in the US are totally acceptable, and which are blasphemous. Ripping the US and the president, perfect. Supporting a free and peaceful country against a totalitarian murderous regime? Blasphemous.In other words, it's ok to be outspoken about your beliefs, but it's not ok to be outspoken about beliefs in opposition to yours.
That appears to be the NBA standard for speech.In other words, it's ok to be outspoken about your beliefs, but it's not ok to be outspoken about beliefs in opposition to yours.
How about we just let people speak about what they want and stop complaining when we don't like what we hear? The GOP and democrats both are guilty, and it just needs to stop.We found out which views in the US are totally acceptable, and which are blasphemous. Ripping the US and the president, perfect. Supporting a free and peaceful country against a totalitarian murderous regime? Blasphemous.