National Vote by Mail - Do You Now Support It

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So it's fine for the Liberals to call Conservatives White Supremacists/Nazis because they don't agree with their view but it's not okay to call the Liberals Nazis? Okay then... Sadly, the term 'Nazi' has become trite in recent months due to the overuse from the far left.
The vast majority of Trumpsters (they are not Conservatives) are not Nazis. But virtually all Nazis are Trumpsters.
 

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Here's the actual deal JTF..you have a loser candidate and you know that the only way he wins is to have massive voter fraud via vote by mail. You actually know that, but you don't care because you are fundamentally dishonest...which is proven here daily.
Here's the deal Beeg, your hero is utterly ignorant, incompetent, in cognitive decline and losing. His only hope of retaining power is massive voter suppression and he knows it. So that's what he's doing. And you're cheering it on.
 

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It's important to understand that contested districts/states, accusations of cheating, chaos, mass litigation, and delays, are the desired goal of the Democrats. They know they can't win fair & square. Just as they refused to accept their loss in 2016, they're going to refuse to admit their loss in 2020.

Here are the results of mass mail-in voting in our primaries:

21% of all mail-in ballots in New York were disqualified...
Over 80,000 mail-in ballots disqualified in NYC primary mess

Half a million illegal ballots in Virginia before voting even starts...
Half a million incorrect absentee ballot applications sent across Virginia, including to dead people

Same amount of discarded ballots in Wisconsin primary, as Trump's victory margin in 2016...
How Wisconsin’s 23,000 Rejected Absentee Ballots Could Spell Trouble For The November Election

92,000 rejected mail-in ballots in battleground state, Pennsylvania primary
Pennsylvania’s mail ballot problems kept tens of thousands from voting in a pandemic primary

102k rejected mail-n ballots in California
California rejected 100K mail-in ballots because of mistakes


 

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It's important to understand that contested districts/states, accusations of cheating, chaos, mass litigation, and delays, are the desired goal of the Democrats. Their goal is to use the chaos they created to litigate for months, thus delaying the announcement of a winner until after January 20th. They believe if no winner has been declared by January 20th, that A) Nancy Pelosi takes over or B) Congress gets to decide the next POTUS.

USPS unprepared to handle volume of mass mail-in ballots...
Signed, Sealed, Undelivered: Thousands Of Mail-In Ballots Rejected For Tardiness

Native American voters negatively affected by USPS poor service...
USPS Delivery Problems Adding to Suppression of Mail Ballot Votes

Democrats filing lawsuits against states for requiring ballots to be received by election day...
High-stakes lawsuits could shape who votes and how ballots are counted in November

Biden has quietly amassed an army of lawyers ready to litigate the election results...
Dallas Attorney Says He's Recruited Thousands of Lawyers to Help Joe Biden Become the Next US President

Democrat Election Commissioner says mail-in voting means we likely won't know the winner on election night...
FEC Commissioner: ‘Substantial Chance’ We Won’t Know Winner On Election Night
 

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Dr Fauci says voting in person this November is perfectly safe. Turns out there's no need for changing the way we've voted the past 70 years, right before the election.

“I think if carefully done according to the guidelines, there’s no reason that I can see why that not be the case,” Dr. Fauci told National Geographic in an interview that aired Thursday.

He pointed out that grocery stores have marks intended to keep people at least six feet apart.

“You can do that,”
said Dr. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “If you go and wear a mask, if you observe the physical distancing and don’t have a crowded situation, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to do that.”

He said people who are at higher risk or don’t want to take the chance can have a vote-by-mail option.

“There’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to vote, in person or otherwise,” he said. Dr. Fauci’s comments came as Democrats and President Trump are locked in a stalemate over funding for the U.S. Postal Service."


Fauci: No reason why we shouldn't be able to vote in person
 

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Harris called Biden a sexist and a racist during the race for Democratic Presidential pick. Now she's his Vice Presidency pick. Must be tough to work with a sexist racist day in and day out. And I wish he would not say things like that because this lady is a nut job in Georgia. That's his choice to say it and I can't stop him.
She did neither of those things, but keep lying if it makes you feel better about your support for the p#$$y-grabbing, KKK defender.
 

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It's important to understand that contested districts/states, accusations of cheating, chaos, mass litigation, and delays, are the desired goal of the Democrats. Their goal is to use the chaos they created to litigate for months, thus delaying the announcement of a winner until after January 20th. They believe if no winner has been declared by January 20th, that A) Nancy Pelosi takes over or B) Congress gets to decide the next POTUS.

USPS unprepared to handle volume of mass mail-in ballots...
Signed, Sealed, Undelivered: Thousands Of Mail-In Ballots Rejected For Tardiness

Native American voters negatively affected by USPS poor service...
USPS Delivery Problems Adding to Suppression of Mail Ballot Votes

Democrats filing lawsuits against states for requiring ballots to be received by election day...
High-stakes lawsuits could shape who votes and how ballots are counted in November

Biden has quietly amassed an army of lawyers ready to litigate the election results...
Dallas Attorney Says He's Recruited Thousands of Lawyers to Help Joe Biden Become the Next US President

Democrat Election Commissioner says mail-in voting means we likely won't know the winner on election night...
FEC Commissioner: ‘Substantial Chance’ We Won’t Know Winner On Election Night
Really dumb post. If the ballots are tied up for president, then the down ballot races cannot have a winner. The House would have very few members. We have no idea who the Speaker would be.

Moreover, if The House cannot figure itself out, then the Senate Pro Tem would become president. However, we don't know who that would be with all the ballots being held up.

We literally have no clue who would be president.

Really poor post by you.
 

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Really dumb post. If the ballots are tied up for president, then the down ballot races cannot have a winner. The House would have very few members. We have no idea who the Speaker would be.

Moreover, if The House cannot figure itself out, then the Senate Pro Tem would become president. However, we don't know who that would be with all the ballots being held up.

We literally have no clue who would be president.

Really poor post by you.
Here's Harvard Law Professor, Corporate-Resistance, & hero of the Communist left, Laurence Tribe:

"Harvard Law School professor Laurence Tribe claimed there is a chance that neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump will be president for the next four years.

Tribe, who is a vocal critic of President Trump, argued on Friday's edition of The ReidOut that if the winner of the election is not determined by Jan. 20, 2021, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the third in line for the presidency, would assume the office.

"They're trying to make it look chaotic, but there is a fail-safe mechanism built into the Constitution itself. And that is no matter how much dust [Trump] throws into the gears, at high noon on Jan. 20, 2021, if there has not been a new president elected, at that point, Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the House, becomes president of the United States," he said on MSNBC."


Laurence Tribe: Nancy Pelosi becomes president if election isn't decided by Jan. 20
 

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Here's another.......

"Per the Twelfth Amendment, in the event that neither Trump nor Biden receives an absolute majority of electoral votes (at least 270), the newly elected 117th Congress would go into session immediately to select both the president and vice president in separate contingent elections. Such elections have only happened three times in American history: 1800, 1824, and 1836."

"To select the president, the House of Representatives would vote en bloc in state delegations, with each state receiving one vote. The District of Columbia, which doesn’t have voting representation in either chamber, wouldn’t receive a vote. The majority of members in a delegation must vote for a single candidate for the state’s vote to count toward the final tally, otherwise the state is marked as “divided.” A candidate must receive an absolute majority of states (26) in the House of Representatives to be elected. In the event that no candidate receives a majority of states, the process would continue on successive ballots until one does. In the 116th Congress, 26 state delegations have Republican majorities, 22 have Democratic majorities, and two are divided (though Michigan has a Democratic plurality since Justin Amash left the Republican Party in 2019)."

"The key here is that the House would need to remain gridlocked beyond noon on January 20, 2021—the official end of Trump’s first term—for an acting president to take power. Normally, the incoming vice president would assume the role of acting president. But, what happens if the Senate also fails to elect a vice president?"


Acting President Pelosi? Here’s How It Could Happen
 

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Here's another....


“President Pelosi” began trending on Twitter soon after Donald Trump’s election delay tweet.

Why? Because the 20th Amendment to the Constitution says the president’s term ends at noon on January 20 – no matter what.


Amendment 20, Section 1 reads in part:

The terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January… and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

If the election were delayed past January 20, 2021, Trump would not be the interim president. Mike Pence wouldn’t be either. The Constitution plainly states both their terms would end.

The 20th Amendment doesn’t explicitly dictate what happens next, other than that Congress has to figure it out (from Section 3):

Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

There’s speculation the presidency would default to the Speaker of the House of Representatives on an interim basis.


In other words, Nancy Pelosi."

Does Trump Realize an Election Delay Might Mean President Pelosi?
 

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And another....

"Who, then, steps into the Oval Office if no election has been held, and the states don’t fill the gap with their own electors? Not Vice President Mike Pence; his term also expires on January 20. So the presidency and vice-presidency would both be vacant.

Now things get weird. By statute, the person next in line for the presidency is the speaker of the House. But in a world with no election, the speakership would be just as vacant as the vice presidency. Just as Trump’s term will end on January 20, the current term of every member of the House of Representatives will end on January 3. The House of Representatives would have no members and couldn’t elect a speaker.

Who’s next?
The answer, by statute, is the president pro tempore of the Senate. That office would not be vacant. Only 35 Senate seats are up for election in November; the other 65 Senators are now serving terms that extend beyond 2021. So even without an election, there would still be a Senate, though it would have only 65 members.

The next critical question, of course, is who that president pro tempore would be. By Senate practice stretching back to the 19th century, the most senior member of the majority party is selected as president pro tem. Today, it’s Iowa’s Chuck Grassley. If there is no election this fall, however, Grassley would no longer be in the majority party. Of the 65 Senators whose terms continue past 2021, and who would therefore compose the Senate after January 3 in the absence of a new election, 35 are Democrats.

So, by default, the Democrats would control the Senate. To be clear, exactly 18 Democrats could control the Senate, since they’d make up a voting majority of the caucus.

By the usual rules—most senior member of the majority party—the president pro tem, and thus the president of the United States, would be Vermont’s Pat Leahy.


But the pro tem process isn’t a law. It’s just a tradition. And in a world this bizarre, where there’s no election, no president and no House, there’s no reason to assume the Senate Democrats would follow tradition. Legally, they can pick whomever they like. And if what they are really picking is the president of the United States, rather than a ceremonial officer, they might want to exercise some actual choice. They could elect President Amy Klobuchar or President Elizabeth Warren."


Postpone the Election? That Could Mean President Biden
 

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Here's Harvard Law Professor, Corporate-Resistance, & hero of the Communist left, Laurence Tribe:

"Harvard Law School professor Laurence Tribe claimed there is a chance that neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump will be president for the next four years.

Tribe, who is a vocal critic of President Trump, argued on Friday's edition of The ReidOut that if the winner of the election is not determined by Jan. 20, 2021, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the third in line for the presidency, would assume the office.

"They're trying to make it look chaotic, but there is a fail-safe mechanism built into the Constitution itself. And that is no matter how much dust [Trump] throws into the gears, at high noon on Jan. 20, 2021, if there has not been a new president elected, at that point, Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the House, becomes president of the United States," he said on MSNBC."


Laurence Tribe: Nancy Pelosi becomes president if election isn't decided by Jan. 20
Really poor post by you. You didn't address anything I said. How can Pelosi e Speaker of we don't know who will control thr House.

Extremely dumb.
 

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And another....

"The one thing that is for sure is that if the elections are delayed, Trump will not be president. A March 2020 report by the Congressional Research Service said, "There are no provisions of law permitting a president to stay in office after this date, even in the event of a national emergency, short of the ratification of a new constitutional amendment," as reported by National Geographic."

"Reinforcing the fact that Trump has no power to cancel or postpone the election, the National Task Force on Election Crises, which is comprised of 40 experts who ensure a free and fair election, said in a report, "The general election is governed by a combination of the U.S. Constitution, federal law, and state and local laws. None of these gives the president any authority to change the date of the election or to extend the current presidential term past January 20th... Nor does the president have any form of unwritten authority to order an election canceled or postponed."


Nancy Pelosi could become the next US President if the elections are postponed, as suggested by Trump
 

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Really poor post by you. You didn't address anything I said. How can Pelosi e Speaker of we don't know who will control thr House.

Extremely dumb.
We see right through this game. Read post #403 where your concerns are addressed specifically.
 

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We see right through this game. Read post #403 where your concerns are addressed specifically.
Very poor post by you. You're smarter than this.

That's if there's no election. You haven't answered anything. If there is an election but ballots are contested, then it's a whole different ballgame. No one knows who would control what.
 

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Very poor post by you. You're smarter than this.

That's if there's no election. You haven't answered anything. If there is an election but ballots are contested, then it's a whole different ballgame. No one knows who would control what.
It's the same thing. Delayed election, or delayed winner. Either way January 20th is the transition deadline. This is the plan. This is why you're pushing to change the way we've voted for decades on short notice, despite knowing in advance the USPS is not prepared, that the states can't manage mail-in voting, that an inordinate amount of ballots will be discarded, that elections will be contested due to mail-in ballots, that minorities disproportionately have their mail-in votes discarded and that Dr Fauci says it's perfectly safe to vote in person. There is no logical way to explain why you want to enter into this obvious chaos, other than that you want and need the chaos.
 

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And despite these warning signs, and despite mail-in voting failing miserably in the primaries, and despite it being perfectly safe to vote in person, and despite mail-in voting hurting people of color, and despite your concerns about Russian election interference, you still want to radically change the way we've been voting & roll the dice on this with 90 days to go. Smells fishy.
 

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Well, the Democrats certainly didn't let people get in the way of their primary.

 

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I don't think this will be an issue. People are going to send in their mail-in ballots weeks in advance of the election. They see what's going on and will make sure their ballots arrive in time. You're also going to see people vote early in numbers that we've never seen.

There's nothing Trump can do to stop it.

If Trump wants to win, he needs to start changing people's minds ASAP. Mail-in ballots go out in some states in 3 weeks. If he's behind in the polls month from now by the margins he's behind right now, then he's done.
 

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She did neither of those things, but keep lying if it makes you feel better about your support for the p#$$y-grabbing, KKK defender.
When has Trump ever supported the KKK? This is a blatant lie. Walk this one back.
 
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