- Apr 19, 2010
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This commitment has no impact on whether Chet Holmgren is a Gopher or not. He has a spot anytime he wants it and knows that.So the headline here obviously is no Chet Holmgren for Pitino which means he misses out on Holmgren, Brown (and I'd argue Tschetter now that he's taken Pohto) after missing out on the entire 2020 class.
The sub headline is that the roster construction is currently a mess. As of now for 2021 the roster would have FOUR center only prospects among the 13 scholarship players. With the way modern basketball is played, I would strongly argue that only 2 scholarships should be used on centers. As of now the 2021 Gophers would have Robbins, Freeman, Thompson, and now Pohto at the position. Going further, you could certainly argue that Martice Mitchell is a center or more of a center than a forward, that Jarvis Omersa is ideally a small ball center and certainly can't give you minutes on the wing given his lack of a perimeter shot or ball handling skills, and that Isaiah Ihnen is a 4 who cannot play the 3 until we see way more from as a ball handler than we've seen to date. That's now 7 of the 13 scholarships to guys you frequently only want one of on the court (non ball handler and/or non shooter). Obviously there is expected player movement here, but this roster needs more skilled players in the 6'4-6'8 range.
From what I've read on Pohto and the very little I've seen of him, his skill set is oddly similar to that of Treyton Thompson. They are both pick and pop bigs with average to below average athleticism who seem to play the right way but have questions about their physicality. Two of the biggest reasons I gave Pitino a pass on Tschetter were that Holmgren was still out there and that I saw Will as a really bad fit in a front court with Treyton as I didn't see that pairing as being athletic enough to play together. Will Tschetter had better offers than Pohto and at least plays a different position than Treyton Thompson, even if he would not be an ideal fit (obviously you take a talent like Chet Holmgren no matter what your roster looks like).
We're not opening any sort of "pipeline" with Pohto internationally, he's been at Sunrise Christian for a number of years. That's concerning because he's played with two top 20 kids in this 2021 class (including Minnesota's own Kendall Brown) so everyone has had a lot of chances to see him play and his only other high major offer (that we know of) is Nebraska. When Lindsted came to become our top recruiting assistant, I am sure this is not the type of player profile Pitino was expecting to land from Sunrise Christian where Lindsted's roots run deep. The Rivals site states that Pohto has grown from 6'9 and sub 200 to 6'11 and 235 since arriving at Sunrise Christian. Maybe (hopefully) a lot of that growth occurred during the pandemic and he's made a significant leap over a period of time where schools have been unable to view him?
Thompson (or Pohto) would be absolutely fine pieces for almost any school in the nation, as would a guy like Mashburn Jr last year. The issue arises when you're not bringing in the lead pieces ahead of these guys who are ranked in the top 30, 50 or even 75 in their class. If you look at the 247 composite you will see recruits from so many schools before you get to Treyton Thompson to Minnesota at 127. Auburn, Alabama, Stanford, Baylor, Tennessee all landed kids in the top 15, not a Blue Blood in the bunch. Texas A&M, Purdue, Ole Miss, UNLV, Western Kentucky, and Iowa State landed kids ranked between 25-50 (as did LSU but I will keep them out of this discussion for Will Wade reasons). Wake Forest who made a really late coaching change has the 63rd ranked player and another kid at 106. Colorado has two kids ranked from 75-100 and DePaul has 3. Northwestern and Nebraska both landed a higher ranked recruit than the Gophers did in this cycle. If you are a great X's and O's guy or a great developer of talent or great at picking out under rated recruits than these rankings don't really matter to your program.
Recall this reporting - David said Chet’s college destination will be impacted by at least one factor involving complementary players. “They gotta have some bigs so that Chet doesn’t get thrown into the middle. The middle is not his game. I don’t want him anywhere where one guy gets hurt, now he’s gotta be the big. It won’t make sense.”
I have very much been a critic of Richard’s roster construction. However, without actually seeing them play and not knowing if Gach will be eligible....in a convoluted, confusing, process it appears Pitino has his best roster since he has been here.
I don’t care how he did it.
Next spring could be just as wacky. We don’t know who will be here.
Yeah, in all honesty I haven't really hated on Pitino for the recruiting piece. It's been in game management and some player development issues. I think he's put together some really good teams but injuries and off the court problems have kind of messed with his "plan or vision."Agreed. On the whole, this looks like his best roster in terms of depth even if there isn't a Daniel Oturu or Reggie Lynch on it.
It rarely pays to get all worked up about this kind of stuff. Right now there are 5 guards on the roster without Gach and 6 with him. I agree with the expectation of Carr being gone after this season and that leaves another roster spot. The way things have been going lately, we probably can expect at least one more. While Pitino hasn't always done great with spring recruiting, he's had a few years where he has picked up very important pieces and the recruiting this past spring was nothing short of terrific.
Yeah, in all honesty I haven't really hated on Pitino for the recruiting piece. It's been in game management and some player development issues.
Oh there were obvious recruiting misses, but Pitino has also landed a few big fish. Oturu, Coffey, Murphy, Mason, Carr, etc. have all been very very good.Player development has been one of my biggest gripes and I believe you have to look at the weaker links to gauge that because good players, like good students, will do the things they need to do to get better regardless of who is leading the group. The fact that players like Bakary and Hurt were still as bad as they were after four years was a disgrace.
Oh there were obvious recruiting misses, but Pitino has also landed a few big fish. Oturu, Coffey, Murphy, Mason, Carr, etc. have all been very very good.
There will be a lot on here that take digs at all the locals he has missed on but I would be surprised if they would have stayed and played at the U for any coach.
Didnt Pitino say he wanted to be more like Belien's teams at Michigan...............bigs that can shoot, spread the floor. This appears to be Pitino going all in on that idea
I don't think it necessarily closes the door on Chet, Chet and his father have made it clear they don't want him playing C in college. I think if anything this helps prove that you're willing to fill that spot with other guys while he can play on the perimeter a little bit.Hopefully this Euro pipeline pays off. Not like we were gonna get him but this pretty much closes the door on Chet I’m thinking.
Agreed, with the huge exception of Ihnen. Ihnen could shoot better than Pohto can before he got here and is presently a better shooter than Pohto is too...based on old tape.A few thoughts from those higlights:
1. This is not just standard HS basketball. The teams that Sunrise Christian plays are pretty high-level across the country.
2. Pohto has a pretty nice offensive game already; definitely not a stiff.
3. He appears to have a better outside shot at this point than any of the following did when they ARRIVED to the Gophers: Oturu, Mitchell, Freeman, Ihnen