Jacob Frey thoughts?

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Jacob Frey will not get a 2nd term. Trust me. The people that matter in the city will not allow him another 4-years.
 

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Jacob Frey will not get a 2nd term. Trust me. The people that matter in the city will not allow him another 4-years.
He and Walz shouldn't serve another day. They both need to resign immediately due to incompetency.
 

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Jacob Frey will not get a 2nd term. Trust me. The people that matter in the city will not allow him another 4-years.
I have to be honest, this is exactly what I thought just a few days ago but as shocking as it seems, I may be reconsidering, at least a little bit.

Watching the well-funded coordinated rioting effort in MSP (and all across the country really), not sure how much Frey and Walz could have done to stem this. When you have thousands of paid protesters (not hard to tell WHO they are being paid by) coming in from out of state to come in and raise holy hell, in retrospect it would have been hard for anyone in MSP to stop this from happening.

Now, Frey's comment about black shouldn't be a death sentence is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say at a critical moment however. Holy shit. What a moron
 

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I have to be honest, this is exactly what I thought just a few days ago but as shocking as it seems, I may be reconsidering, at least a little bit.

Watching the well-funded coordinated rioting effort in MSP (and all across the country really), not sure how much Frey and Walz could have done to stem this. When you have thousands of paid protesters (not hard to tell WHO they are being paid by) coming in from out of state to come in and raise holy hell, in retrospect it would have been hard for anyone in MSP to stop this from happening.

Now, Frey's comment about black shouldn't be a death sentence is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say at a critical moment however. Holy shit. What a moron
That's true. But trust me. The discussions are being had about backing someone else.
 

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I have to be honest, this is exactly what I thought just a few days ago but as shocking as it seems, I may be reconsidering, at least a little bit.

Watching the well-funded coordinated rioting effort in MSP (and all across the country really), not sure how much Frey and Walz could have done to stem this. When you have thousands of paid protesters (not hard to tell WHO they are being paid by) coming in from out of state to come in and raise holy hell, in retrospect it would have been hard for anyone in MSP to stop this from happening.

Now, Frey's comment about black shouldn't be a death sentence is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say at a critical moment however. Holy shit. What a moron
In retrospect there may not have been much he could do to prevent the riots. But the way he behaved throughout the entire process (and really his entire term as far as I'm concerned) is embarrassing to watch.
 

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Frey and Walz, here's your legacy and how you will be remembered. The clean up will happen, and you'll try to take credit for that, but you will be remembered for your roles in this destruction happening.

 

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In retrospect there may not have been much he could do to prevent the riots. But the way he behaved throughout the entire process (and really his entire term as far as I'm concerned) is embarrassing to watch.
Once Walz and Frey were both aware of the details of the killing at 38th and Chicago, it should have been a huge alarm bell for both of them. There have been riots after what turned out to be very justified shootings, and this was a brutal, cruel, awful, slow execution on captured in high quality video.

The lack of resources, delivered in a much quicker manner, and followed up by a total failure of coordination and command and control falls on both. Walz is the Governor, and he does not need to sit around waiting for the dithering snowflake Mayor to call. Walz was some sort of military hero, or at least an officer in the Guard, he should have been all over this.

There are reserve units, mutual aid from other jurisdictions, Federal assets, the State Patrol, and of course the National Guard. These resources were not even requested in some cases until over 48 hours since the killing.

I bet the Hennepin County and Ramsey County Sheriff departments could have been spread out on the streets in a hurry to cut down on all of the random looting and fire starting that was not tied to the core protest groups.
 
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That's true. But trust me. The discussions are being had about backing someone else.

I think they should back that young woman interviewed on WCCO last night who was coordinating Whittier Neighborhood support and community guard activities from the Pimento Kitchen on Nicollet- Eat Street.

She was being interviewed sometime after 8PM when the violators of the curfew were marching north on Nicollet at 25th or so when her group moving inside quickly to respect the curfew and avoid the unknown marchers. The State Patrol dispersed the march a few minutes later at Franklin/ Nicollet.

She noted that her group had a communication network to mobilize as needed and provide security to area businesses and residential streets and assets including firearms and batons ready to go if needed.

She was in the Army for 8 years (Fort Drum NY), and used to be an aid to a council member, Cunningham?, and seemed to be fed up with the status quo on the Council. I forgot her name, but she seemed like a good candidate. She was a black woman with old fashioned horn rim glasses, and mask on so it was hard to get a good look at her, but her interview was so good I kept watching and she said some great things.
 
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I have to be honest, this is exactly what I thought just a few days ago but as shocking as it seems, I may be reconsidering, at least a little bit.

Watching the well-funded coordinated rioting effort in MSP (and all across the country really), not sure how much Frey and Walz could have done to stem this. When you have thousands of paid protesters (not hard to tell WHO they are being paid by) coming in from out of state to come in and raise holy hell, in retrospect it would have been hard for anyone in MSP to stop this from happening.

Now, Frey's comment about black shouldn't be a death sentence is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say at a critical moment however. Holy shit. What a moron
I agree but didn't want to sound like a Walz pollyanna. I really don't think anyone anticipated the scale or resolve of these rioters, especially if outside organizers are involved. Walz authorized the largest domestic deployment of the MN National Guard. I can't remember where I read or whom it was, maybe a police or guard commander, but even they were not expecting this. People making this D vs. R -- it's hard to see how anyone would have had success against this without going full martial.

I have confidence in Walz's leadership. His failure was not superseding Frey & Carter sooner; they seem in way over they heads.
 

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I agree but didn't want to sound like a Walz pollyanna. I really don't think anyone anticipated the scale or resolve of these rioters, especially if outside organizers are involved. Walz authorized the largest domestic deployment of the MN National Guard. I can't remember where I read or whom it was, maybe a police or guard commander, but even they were not expecting this. People making this D vs. R -- it's hard to see how anyone would have had success against this without going full martial.

I have confidence in Walz's leadership. His failure was not superseding Frey & Carter sooner; they seem in way over they heads.
And that's why Minneapolis burned....utter lack of leadership and planning. Did they not ever watch video from Rodney King or Ferguson? Inexcusable especially when Walz was in the Guard and knew how to deploy it but sat on his hands as the City burned.... Walz isn't a Hero, he's a Nero
 

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I think they should back that young woman interviewed on WCCO last night who was coordinating Whittier Neighborhood support and community guard activities from the Pimento Kitchen on Nicollet- Eat Street.

She was being interviewed sometime after 8PM when the violators of the curfew were marching north on Nicollet at 25th or so when her group moving inside quickly to respect the curfew and avoid the unknown marchers. The State Patrol dispersed the march a few minutes later at Franklin/ Nicollet.

She noted that her group had a communication network to mobilize as needed and provide security to area businesses and residential streets and assets including firearms and batons ready to go if needed.

She was in the Army for 8 years (Fort Drum NY), and used to be an aid to a council member, Cunningham?, and seemed to be fed up with the status quo on the Council. I forgot her name, but she seemed like a good candidate. She was a black woman with old fashioned horn rim glasses, and mask on so it was hard to get a good look at her, but her interview was so good I kept watching and she said some great things.
Yeah, she was in the thick of it and appears to be the type to mean what she says. Nothin wishy-washy about her.
 

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:cry: Here's some of the impact on our city that was caused by Freeman's, Frey's and Walz's decisions. It's a long list of the buildings and businesses damaged, destroyed and/or looted in MPLS and St. Paul.

 

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And that's why Minneapolis burned....utter lack of leadership and planning. Did they not ever watch video from Rodney King or Ferguson? Inexcusable especially when Walz was in the Guard and knew how to deploy it but sat on his hands as the City burned.... Walz isn't a Hero, he's a Nero
Sad, very sad, but true...
 

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Coming next to MPLS? No more police...

"... several of us on the council are working on finding out, what it would take to disband the [Minneapolis Police Department] and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity," said Steve Fletcher, a MPLS council member.
 

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So Frey and Walz still haven’t resigned? How can they ever again look anyone in the eye after letting Minneapolis burn.
 

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Not sure how they plan to do this but far left progressives are going to attempt it.
 

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Not sure how they plan to do this but far left progressives are going to attempt it.
These progressives are some damn smart SOB's. Why in the hell hasn't anyone ever thought of this before?? This is the kind of deep thinking this country has been missing for over two centuries
 

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It is outrageous, Mayor Frey fanned the flames, and now he wants calm. Those business' that were destroyed, is tragic for many reasons. Protesting is fine, but this is rioting.
Update: 66 businesses burned to the ground in Mpls/St Paul. Not sure what the total number of damaged buildings is cuz the Strib article had a paywall.
 

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I have to be honest, this is exactly what I thought just a few days ago but as shocking as it seems, I may be reconsidering, at least a little bit.

Watching the well-funded coordinated rioting effort in MSP (and all across the country really), not sure how much Frey and Walz could have done to stem this. When you have thousands of paid protesters (not hard to tell WHO they are being paid by) coming in from out of state to come in and raise holy hell, in retrospect it would have been hard for anyone in MSP to stop this from happening.

Now, Frey's comment about black shouldn't be a death sentence is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say at a critical moment however. Holy shit. What a moron
This would be my number one vote and I don't think second place is particularly close. Unbelievable.
 

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The boy mayor is pretty much a drama queen. HIs city council, that has much more power, is packed full of SWJ/ snowflake whack jobs, much dumber and much more radical than he is.

Get ready for the shit show.
 

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The boy mayor is pretty much a drama queen. HIs city council, that has much more power, is packed full of SWJ/ snowflake whack jobs, much dumber and much more radical than he is.

Get ready for the shit show.
 

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That’s what people don’t realize the city council and other non-elected boards have all the power. The mayor is basically a figure head.
 

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So Frey and Walz still haven’t resigned? How can they ever again look anyone in the eye after letting Minneapolis burn.
I understand and support the negativity toward Frey, who has failed as a leader and is embarrassing to watch. Walz did not act decisively/immediately, but similarly to Cuomo in NY with CV-19, he continues to rectify his failure to act early and decisively by backing it up with strong leadership to rectify the situation in multiple directions.
 

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I understand and support the negativity toward Frey, who has failed as a leader and is embarrassing to watch. Walz did not act decisively/immediately, but similarly to Cuomo in NY with CV-19, he continues to rectify his failure to act early and decisively by backing it up with strong leadership to rectify the situation in multiple directions.
Other than photo opps and comforting talks, what has he done? It's a serious question. Businesses are burned, people are dead. He couldn't even get barriers set up on the interstate to let drivers know it was closed (State Patrol blames the gov's office for the lack of barriers becasue the decision to close the interstate was made so late that it didn't give them any time to act). The people in Minnesota have been responding with clean up efforts, food drives and such, but that's happening in spite of Walz, not because of Walz. According to Walz's rules, the food drives and clean up efforts are illegal because they involve more than 10 people in a group. So back to my original question, other than photo opps and comforting talks, what has he done?
 

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Frey and Walz, here's your legacy and how you will be remembered. The clean up will happen, and you'll try to take credit for that, but you will be remembered for your roles in this destruction happening.

I don't know who is narrating this video, but people have come from far and wide to donate and distribute food at Holy Trinity. That is what I saw.
 

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Not sure how they plan to do this but far left progressives are going to attempt it.
Lisa Bender was one of the reasons that drove me out of Mpls. Total socialist whack-job. I had raised an issue to her (as she was my city councilperson) as a constituent, and she literally told me that she chooses not to listen to the majority of constituents if it's for their own good. The Mpls city council is absolutely terrifying, and will eventually ruin a great city.

Frey was getting blame on the Joe Rogan podcast (out of LA) yesterday, for giving protesters the motivation to carry this out nationwide. They cited his inaction the first two nights of rioting to essentially signal to everybody that this will be condoned. Even if you don't agree with the take, it is interesting to hear what other parts of the county think.
 
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