i think ima vote trump 2020

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i haven't voted for president since 2008. in 2008, i lived in chicago and was a grad student at the university of chicago. the campus was drunk on obama's rhetoric. not only was he a minority, but he was a progressive, he was a uchicago professor, and he was a resident. i was a small c conservative.

when i reached voting age i remembering being in a political science class in junior college after i had dropped out of high school two years earlier and ten years before obama was elected. it was fall semester and california was electing a governor. neither gray davis nor dan lundgren were acceptable for this budding marxist. I voted green party. my political science teacher asked if i felt like i threw my vote away. i sort of felt like i had, so i decided to abstain from voting in most national elections from then on.

that is until 2008 in chicago. the obama personality cult was annoying, so i decided to vote for mccain because i liked the idea of a mccain vote in the middle of chicago. i didn't like him, he wasn't a conservative but i wanted a protest vote.

well, i think i'll protest again in 2020. i don't like trump, he's not a conservative, but i'll be damned if i'm going to miss voting in one of the most import elections in u.s. history. even if it is for the loser. especially if it is for the loser.
 

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So, you joined the cult of one. Okay. What are the policy reasons you are voting for Trump? Or, is it simply a knee jerk reaction to the impeachment process, which is really inconsequential in the long term. Trump will remain in office until the next election, where he will be on the ballot. So, what is really bothering you?
 

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You take pleasure in undermining the concept of democracy? Or, what is it that you're protesting??

Serious question, not trolling.
 

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I don’t understand why anyone would not vote, no matter the candidate you support. have a pulse
 

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You are not protesting. You are abdicating your power to somebody else who is voting.
 

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i haven't voted for president since 2008. in 2008, i lived in chicago and was a grad student at the university of chicago. the campus was drunk on obama's rhetoric. not only was he a minority, but he was a progressive, he was a uchicago professor, and he was a resident. i was a small c conservative.

when i reached voting age i remembering being in a political science class in junior college after i had dropped out of high school two years earlier and ten years before obama was elected. it was fall semester and california was electing a governor. neither gray davis nor dan lundgren were acceptable for this budding marxist. I voted green party. my political science teacher asked if i felt like i threw my vote away. i sort of felt like i had, so i decided to abstain from voting in most national elections from then on.

that is until 2008 in chicago. the obama personality cult was annoying, so i decided to vote for mccain because i liked the idea of a mccain vote in the middle of chicago. i didn't like him, he wasn't a conservative but i wanted a protest vote.

well, i think i'll protest again in 2020. i don't like trump, he's not a conservative, but i'll be damned if i'm going to miss voting in one of the most import elections in u.s. history. even if it is for the loser. especially if it is for the loser.
I'll preface by saying I have always enjoyed your posts on the OT Board, and I wish you would join us more often. This is an interesting post, another in your line of interesting posts. I don't understand why anyone would vote for a person who as morality and ethically bankrupt as the current POTUS. He's everything a leader of a nation like ours should not be. We owe ourselves a far better, more representative, more moral and ethical person.
 

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Well, at the least, I don't understand what possibly you could be protesting, by voting for the POTUS who is the most morally and ethically bankrupt in history. But yeah ...
 

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The D candidates are too short, so I’ll vote for the morally bankrupt lib owner. This is equivalent logic to the OP.
 

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to be clear, not voting is a choice. voting for a 3rd-party candidate is a choice. Anyone is free to vote for anyone on the ballot. Nobody has to choose one of the major candidates.

I voted for John Anderson in 1980. He received 7% of the vote. I don't consider it a wasted vote. It represents my viewpoint at the time.

I may not agree with people who vote for Trump, but that is their right. I have to accept that they view the issues differently than I do.

To be clear - I am not "in love" with any of the Democrats who are running. I tend to be moderate on financial issues and more liberal on social issues. (liberal does not mean progressive. I am not as far left as AOC or Bernie). No one in this campaign is talking about debt or the deficit. Those are issues that have to be addressed at some point.
 

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i haven't voted for president since 2008. in 2008, i lived in chicago and was a grad student at the university of chicago. the campus was drunk on obama's rhetoric. not only was he a minority, but he was a progressive, he was a uchicago professor, and he was a resident. i was a small c conservative.

when i reached voting age i remembering being in a political science class in junior college after i had dropped out of high school two years earlier and ten years before obama was elected. it was fall semester and california was electing a governor. neither gray davis nor dan lundgren were acceptable for this budding marxist. I voted green party. my political science teacher asked if i felt like i threw my vote away. i sort of felt like i had, so i decided to abstain from voting in most national elections from then on.

that is until 2008 in chicago. the obama personality cult was annoying, so i decided to vote for mccain because i liked the idea of a mccain vote in the middle of chicago. i didn't like him, he wasn't a conservative but i wanted a protest vote.

well, i think i'll protest again in 2020. i don't like trump, he's not a conservative, but i'll be damned if i'm going to miss voting in one of the most import elections in u.s. history. even if it is for the loser. especially if it is for the loser.
What are you protesting?
 

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to be clear, not voting is a choice. voting for a 3rd-party candidate is a choice. Anyone is free to vote for anyone on the ballot. Nobody has to choose one of the major candidates.

I voted for John Anderson in 1980. He received 7% of the vote. I don't consider it a wasted vote. It represents my viewpoint at the time.

I may not agree with people who vote for Trump, but that is their right. I have to accept that they view the issues differently than I do.

To be clear - I am not "in love" with any of the Democrats who are running. I tend to be moderate on financial issues and more liberal on social issues. (liberal does not mean progressive. I am not as far left as AOC or Bernie). No one in this campaign is talking about debt or the deficit. Those are issues that have to be addressed at some point.
Well then, you are a normal human being. As for your John Anderson vote, that took away from Jimmy Carter and put in Reagan. So, in essence, your first vote was for Reagan. Just because you didn't consider that the reality of your vote for Anderson, that was the effective result.
 

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Well then, you are a normal human being. As for your John Anderson vote, that took away from Jimmy Carter and put in Reagan. So, in essence, your first vote was for Reagan. Just because you didn't consider that the reality of your vote for Anderson, that was the effective result.
Went back and checked. If every Anderson voter had voted for Carter, Reagan would still have won the election. Reagan would have had 331 electoral votes to 209 for Carter. feel free to check my math.
 

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i haven't voted for president since 2008. in 2008, i lived in chicago and was a grad student at the university of chicago. the campus was drunk on obama's rhetoric. not only was he a minority, but he was a progressive, he was a uchicago professor, and he was a resident. i was a small c conservative.

when i reached voting age i remembering being in a political science class in junior college after i had dropped out of high school two years earlier and ten years before obama was elected. it was fall semester and california was electing a governor. neither gray davis nor dan lundgren were acceptable for this budding marxist. I voted green party. my political science teacher asked if i felt like i threw my vote away. i sort of felt like i had, so i decided to abstain from voting in most national elections from then on.

that is until 2008 in chicago. the obama personality cult was annoying, so i decided to vote for mccain because i liked the idea of a mccain vote in the middle of chicago. i didn't like him, he wasn't a conservative but i wanted a protest vote.

well, i think i'll protest again in 2020. i don't like trump, he's not a conservative, but i'll be damned if i'm going to miss voting in one of the most import elections in u.s. history. even if it is for the loser. especially if it is for the loser.
“...well you’re gonna serve somebody...
You’re gonna have to serve somebody...
Now it may be the devil or it may be the lord...
But you’re going to have to serve somebody...”

here in America this election cycle we WILL get exactly what we richly deserve. The choice is up to us. And, in the end, we are ALL going to have to pay the price

“...it may be the devil or it may be the lord...
But (we ARE) gonna have to SERVE...”
That devil we may have to serve looks like a short little butchering Russian kgb devil who has already trumped the king that currently is disguised as a president here in the USA.

King t just may be growing a funny little blotch of facial hair under his orange nose and all his party of trump henchmen are all goose-stepping around the senate chambers working to sell the American democracy out. They are dedicated and are shamelessly serving their trumped-up devil that they see as their lord. And as they goose-step in the chambers they all chant “...burn baby burn...”
 
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I'll preface by saying I have always enjoyed your posts on the OT Board, and I wish you would join us more often. This is an interesting post, another in your line of interesting posts. I don't understand why anyone would vote for a person who as morality and ethically bankrupt as the current POTUS. He's everything a leader of a nation like ours should not be. We owe ourselves a far better, more representative, more moral and ethical person.
i don't believe that trump is any more bankrupt, morally and ethically, than the the last two presidents. they were war mongers and liars who undercut the constitution and whose corruption and malfeasance further empowered the president to continue to flout the law.

i don't like him because he is an idiot. but he is exactly the leader this nation deserves.
 

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Went back and checked. If every Anderson voter had voted for Carter, Reagan would still have won the election. Reagan would have had 331 electoral votes to 209 for Carter. feel free to check my math.
Was that by electoral college vote or just nationally? I believe your are correct that it would not have mattered.
 

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i don't believe that trump is any more bankrupt, morally and ethically, than the the last two presidents. they were war mongers and liars who undercut the constitution and whose corruption and malfeasance further empowered the president to continue to flout the law.

i don't like him because he is an idiot. but he is exactly the leader this nation deserves.
We definitely deserve him. But it remains unclear, through your two posts, why you would protest vote FOR him. Are there no viable alternatives? Also, I’m not sure how the prior POTUS was a “war monger”; although I can see how one could arrive there by a cursory overview of evidence. I have no idea how anyone could ever equate Trump to Obama in terms of morals, ethics, or honesty. Not sure what evidence would ever make one equate the two in those qualities...
 

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We definitely deserve him. But it remains unclear, through your two posts, why you would protest vote FOR him. Are there no viable alternatives?
there are some interesting people in politics -- i like gabbard in theory (even if she was a russian asset, i wouldn't mind) and i think a bernie presidency would be interesting (he comes from vermont, which is a constitutional carry state. if you can legally own a gun you don't need a permit to carry a gun), and i like yang (because i like $1000 a month) -- but the moment a politician becomes president they sign a deal with the devil. trump has been willing to call the devil's bluff. trump's not a politician. biden and warren would be far worse for this country than trump.
 

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I don’t care for Trump, but I’m voting for him, along with maxing out donations to his campaign for the simple reason that the left is attempting to convert us to socialism.....
 

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Wow. A lot of "interesting" logic here.

Trump having removed most of his sane advisers and unrestrained by facing re-election, will either behave like the dictators he so admires, or he will become the great uniter. Which do you think is more likely?
 

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I didn't vote from the time I voted for Slick Bill Clinton (the first time) until the time I voted for Barry (the first term). As a former Political Science major, I was convinced that voting when you weren't educated on the issues (and I often wasn't, at least not for a Poli Sci major) was a "wasted" or uneducated and uninformed vote.

Obviously, the reality is that virtually every Joe walking the street doesn't have a clue about what's going on and far too many good young men and women lost their lives fighting for our right to vote and have the country we have. So now I vote.

Okay. What are the policy reasons you are voting for Trump?
You realize you could ask this question to 1000 people on the street and about 975 would either not have a good answer or would be flat out wrong, yes?
 

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I didn't vote from the time I voted for Slick Bill Clinton (the first time) until the time I voted for Barry (the first term). As a former Political Science major, I was convinced that voting when you weren't educated on the issues (and I often wasn't, at least not for a Poli Sci major) was a "wasted" or uneducated and uninformed vote.

Obviously, the reality is that virtually every Joe walking the street doesn't have a clue about what's going on and far too many good young men and women lost their lives fighting for our right to vote and have the country we have. So now I vote.


You realize you could ask this question to 1000 people on the street and about 975 would either not have a good answer or would be flat out wrong, yes?
True 10,000 times in 10,000 instances. But, I am asking why you are voting Trump? I know there are good and decent reasons to do this beyond the man. I am pro conviction, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate some of the things he has accomplished, which is mostly work on his golf score.
 

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True 10,000 times in 10,000 instances. But, I am asking why you are voting Trump? I know there are good and decent reasons to do this beyond the man. I am pro conviction, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate some of the things he has accomplished, which is mostly work on his golf score.
I voted for the Republican candidate who happened to be DJT. There's a distinction. And I did so largely because of the path the country has been on via liberalism. It's frightening. Obama apologizing to basically the world for Americans being... well, Americans, and that's just one small thing. Americans being moved heavily towards essentially not being able to speak their minds at all; a movement towards complete control over how you think and how you speak.

It used to just be that the two sides disagreed politically on a few key issues. The far left is hell-bent on a mission to change the country as we've known it for 240+ years.

The Trump election sure didn't stop that, but it at least slowed the growth/infestation at least a little bit.
 

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My guess is that Big Ten voted for trump in 2016 and he's voting for him again. This isn't a protest vote and his "grievances" are phantom. Move along.
 

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You guys keep voting for the same people over and over and expect change.... smh.
 

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You guys keep voting for the same people over and over and expect change.... smh.
I am getting the change I voted for.
We have a President that fights for America and for the promises he made Americans.

We have a booming economy with lower corporate taxes (hint - there is a relationship between the two).

He is breaking through against the deep state and there will be accountability for the spying and the taking of civil liberties.

We have a wall being built. When the wall is substantially done we will see politicians come to the table to agree on what to do with illegals in our country. I believe that most of those with clean records will be allowed to stay and have guest worker or potentially permanent status. You never can fix the problem without fixing the source.

We have a President that fights for religious liberty and the constitution. He has installed a TON of judges who actually respect the constitution. Huge.

We have no new wars, just as Trump promised and he has for the most part defeated ISIS.

He has faced down the most corrupt media in US history and has spoken directly to the people.

He has fought for more favorable trade for the US and won in Mexico, China, Canada, Europe and Korea.

It is a great time in America and it is too bad more people cannot enjoy it because of their own hatred.
 

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I'm guessing this happened after SNL murdered the Dem candidates. Their cold open was on point, which might be one of the moving points for Trump to stay in power.
 

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I don’t care for Trump, but I’m voting for him, along with maxing out donations to his campaign for the simple reason that the left is attempting to convert us to socialism.....
So I take it you're voting for Bill Weld in the primary?
 
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