Hunter's emails

[Wally]

The Russians....I didn't think there was anyone that was still this stupid. But there you are. Who needs the Russians when we have the Democrat party for disinformation? As Putin recently said- he likes the Democrats because they share ideology with the Russians.

You cannot see thru Putins statement, ROTFLMAO.
Can't expect much more than first level thinking from Trumpers...

 

[KillerGopherFan]

Somebody wanted these files found. If I had a guess, Hunter's iCloud account was hacked, then these Macs were loaded with that data. The iCloud would have all kinds of backed up photos and videos and such, it does it automatically.

That should be really easy for the Biden campaign to expose, no? The Biden campaign isn’t even saying what you’re saying.

You‘ve been reading too many of JTF’s rationalization posts.

 

[bga1]

"the FBI came unannounced"--with a subpoena with the device serial number on it. It was as the result of being contacted.
Most subpoenas are not served after politely calling and saying "you gonna be around at 4:30?"
Point being, I can't tell from his interview if he's copping to calling the FBI, or not. He seem to want it both ways, or just isn't thinking clearly when interviewed. As I said before, twitchy. Might just be a nervous guy.

I'd be nervous. His life is in danger. Bottom line- he called them first and alerted them. The FBI has seen this laptop and supposedly examined it. If they think that the story being put out by the New York Post is fake, they would be duty bound to step up and say that immediately upon its release. They have not. The fact that they sat on this so long means one of two things: 1. They have an open investigation of Hunter Biden and did not want to announce or 2. The FBI still has a major internal corruption problem

The Biden campaign has not denied that the emails are Hunter's, only that they are angry that they did not get warned of the story by the New York Post.

 

[bga1]

That should be really easy for the Biden campaign to expose, no? The Biden campaign isn’t even saying what you’re saying.

You‘ve been reading too many of JTF’s rationalization posts.

Again, so much "concern" about how the laptop was discovered. So little concern about what is on it.
Odd.

 

[KillerGopherFan]

 

[bga1]

Beeg--
He's doing a recovery job. I'm going to assume for the moment that Hunter is a complete moron and has no encrypted files, even though a lot of this stuff should probably be, and would be.
So, in the course of recovering the files, he saw something that was criminal enough to have friends call the FBI. Then, the FBI shows up unannounced, takes the computer, and does nothing as far as anybody knows.
He also gives a copy to Rudy, because somehow, he knows how to get ahold of Rudy, and passing along a customer's data to Rudy seems like the right thing to do.
Oh, and keep a copy for yourself too, because Seth Rich.
He thinks it was Hunter who dropped it off, but despite being able to see photos of Hunter smoking crack, he can't say it was Hunter. The person who dropped off three computers full of crack videos doesn't return, because, well, not that big a deal. And somehow, it's easier to call Rudy, than Hunter, who probably could be reached pretty easily through the Biden foundation, or the Biden campaign, or all kinds of things with phone numbers on the internet.

Why on earth would he call Hunter? He saw corruption and he wanted to report it.
Hunter is not running for President and neither is the computer guy.
Joe Biden is.
Did he lie about talking with Hunter about his business?

Did Joe Biden profit personally from this business?

Right now it appears that the answer to both is a resounding yes. The information adds up. There has been no denial and the Biden campaign has even waffled to admit that a meeting might have happened informally.

Rudy Giuliani understands what it takes for evidence to pass muster. This is never going to fly if it isn't forensically sound. He knows that. The New York Post has a lot of horsepower and knows the magnitude of this story. They know that.

 

[saintpaulguy]

Again, so much "concern" about how the laptop was discovered. So little concern about what is on it.
Odd.

Not really. Chain of custody is an important part of determining whether this is real or not.
He would try to call Hunter because it is supposedly his property.

 

[Livingat45north]

The fact that they sat on this so long means one of two things: 1. They have an open investigation of Hunter Biden and did not want to announce or 2. The FBI still has a major internal corruption problem

We know the latter is true, and most likely the former is also true. Remember the bank raid to get to Hunter's records. That didn't just happen by accident.

 

[Livingat45north]

Again, so much "concern" about how the laptop was discovered. So little concern about what is on it.
Odd.

IMO, what's really odd is that the libs are treating this like this is new news. It's not, it's just more evidence to the legions of existing evidence of all the kickbacks and bribes that the Bidens have been taking at the expense of the American people. This is chapter 100 of a book that already has 99 chapters of evidence.

 

[saintpaulguy]

I'd be nervous. His life is in danger. Bottom line- he called them first and alerted them. The FBI has seen this laptop and supposedly examined it. If they think that the story being put out by the New York Post is fake, they would be duty bound to step up and say that immediately upon its release. They have not. The fact that they sat on this so long means one of two things: 1. They have an open investigation of Hunter Biden and did not want to announce or 2. The FBI still has a major internal corruption problem

The Biden campaign has not denied that the emails are Hunter's, only that they are angry that they did not get warned of the story by the New York Post.

If the FBI has an open investigation, isn't Rudy kind of messing that up?

 

[TruthSeeker]

For the record, the decision by Twitter is going to bite them in the ass hard. Now they HAVE to be the content police.

Twitter and Facebook are learning that media companies like them need a strong editorial/gatekeeping process just like the traditional media.

Unfiltered and unfettered information delivered to the masses leads to the destruction of society.

 

[saintpaulguy]

The Trump pee tape is going to be found soon, stuck in a VCR in repair shop in Manhattan. Eric only partially taped over it with Days of Our Lives, and the repair shop had to accidentally watch all 2 hours, to get the tape unstuck.

 

[saintpaulguy]

Twitter and Facebook are learning that media companies like them need a strong editorial/gatekeeping process just like the traditional media.

Unfiltered and unfettered information delivered to the masses leads to the destruction of society.

Could not disagree more.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Could not disagree more.

That's ok. You can be wrong sometimes.

 

[KillerGopherFan]

It’s not just Hunter that Joe is taking care of. He’s currently making his son-in-law rich too.

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www.politico.com

At the same time that Joe Biden’s son-in-law, Howard Krein, has been advising Biden’s campaign on its coronavirus response, Krein’s venture capital business has been running a special initiative to invest in health care startups that offer solutions to the pandemic.

In March, as Covid-19 began spreading in the United States, the investment firm, StartUp Health, unveiled a new coronavirus initiative soliciting pitches from entrepreneurs with products that addressed the outbreak.

The next month, reports in Bloomberg and the New York Times listed Krein among those participating in daily calls to brief Biden on health policy during the pandemic, while StartUp Health announced its intention to invest $1 million across 10 startups with coronavirus applications within 30 days.

“StartUp Health is putting the full support of its platform and network behind building a post-Covid world that uses technology and entrepreneurial ingenuity to improve health outcomes,” the firm said at the time.

Krein simultaneously advising the campaign and venturing into Covid investing could pose conflict-of-interest concerns for a Biden administration or simply create the awkward appearance of Krein profiting off his father-in-law’s policies. Since the start of the coronavirus outbreak, the federal government has directed tens of billions of dollars in coronavirus medical spending in areas like testing and vaccine research to private firms. It is poised to spend billions more next year and possibly beyond.

The potential conflicts are not limited to the coronavirus for Krein, 53, a Philadelphia-based head-and-neck surgeon who got into venture investing not long after he began dating Biden’s daughter, Ashley, in 2010.

 

[saintpaulguy]

For a doddering fool he’s quite the boss.

 

[KillerGopherFan]

For a doddering fool he’s quite the boss.

Who said he‘s running the show? He just goes along with it b/c “he trusts his son”. No questions asked.

 

[Costa Rican Gopher]

Interesting email from Hunter Biden. Any guesses who "the big guy" is that he's referencing, who's going to receive 10% of this deal & but is to be paid through Hunter Biden?

“My understanding is that the original agreement with the Director was for consulting fees based on introductions alone a rate of $10 million per year for three years guarantee total of $30 million,” Hunter Biden wrote to Mr. Gongwen. “The chairman [Mr. Ye] changed that deal after we me[t] in Miami TO A MUCH MORE LASTING AND LUCRATIVE ARRANGEMENT to create a holding company 50% percent owned by ME and 50% owned by him.Consulting fees is one piece of our income stream but the reason this proposal by the chairman was so much more interesting to me and my family is that we would also be partners in the equity and profits of the JV [joint venture].”

Hunter Biden told Mr. Gongwen in the email that if the joint venture did not work “then please return us to the original deal 10M per year a guaranteed 3 years plus bonus payments for any successful deal we introduce.”

The New York Post reproduced a second email Thursday showing an international consultant, James Gilliar, telling Hunter Biden in May 2017 about how Ye Jianming’s CEFC will divide up payments for an unnamed company for which Hunter is “chair/vice chair.”

The email says Hunter will receive a 20 percent equity, plus a 10 percent stake “held by H for the big guy?”

Hunter Biden demanded Chinese billionaire pay $10 million for 'introductions alone,' emails show

 

[bga1]

If the FBI has an open investigation, isn't Rudy kind of messing that up?

Possibly. Perhaps he decided to take matters into his own hands, because he doesn't trust the FBI to seek justice. The FBI has now richly earned that reputation and obviously Trump is frustrated with that as well. There is no doubt friction between Trump and Wray who I have often wondered what side he was on.

 

[Costa Rican Gopher]

In case anyone's forgotten. Straight from the horse's mouth.

 

[howeda7]

Just checking back in and I see that our fellas are still here.

Beeg will be here for the next 4 + years....

 

[bga1]

Grenell ran DNI for a while, pretty doubtful that he falls for a fake story. He is in the know.

 

[bga1]

Not really. Chain of custody is an important part of determining whether this is real or not.
He would try to call Hunter because it is supposedly his property.

Not after 90 days it's not- per the contract.

 

[saintpaulguy]

Not after 90 days it's not- per the contract.

You’d call before then.
Somehow it’s easy to call Steve Bannon but not Hunter.
It’s Delaware. This would be like one of the Dayton or Poland kids being unreachable.

 

[Angry]

The wrong kid died.

 

[BarnBurner]

Not really. Chain of custody is an important part of determining whether this is real or not.
He would try to call Hunter because it is supposedly his property.

Fraud

 

[saintpaulguy]

Possibly. Perhaps he decided to take matters into his own hands, because he doesn't trust the FBI to seek justice. The FBI has now richly earned that reputation and obviously Trump is frustrated with that as well. There is no doubt friction between Trump and Wray who I have often wondered what side he was on.

So, because this was moving too slowly for the election, Rudy just dropped it on the Post?

 

[howeda7]

 

[Wally]

It’s not just Hunter that Joe is taking care of. He’s currently making his son-in-law rich too.

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www.politico.com

At the same time that Joe Biden’s son-in-law, Howard Krein, has been advising Biden’s campaign on its coronavirus response, Krein’s venture capital business has been running a special initiative to invest in health care startups that offer solutions to the pandemic.

In March, as Covid-19 began spreading in the United States, the investment firm, StartUp Health, unveiled a new coronavirus initiative soliciting pitches from entrepreneurs with products that addressed the outbreak.

The next month, reports in Bloomberg and the New York Times listed Krein among those participating in daily calls to brief Biden on health policy during the pandemic, while StartUp Health announced its intention to invest $1 million across 10 startups with coronavirus applications within 30 days.

“StartUp Health is putting the full support of its platform and network behind building a post-Covid world that uses technology and entrepreneurial ingenuity to improve health outcomes,” the firm said at the time.

Krein simultaneously advising the campaign and venturing into Covid investing could pose conflict-of-interest concerns for a Biden administration or simply create the awkward appearance of Krein profiting off his father-in-law’s policies. Since the start of the coronavirus outbreak, the federal government has directed tens of billions of dollars in coronavirus medical spending in areas like testing and vaccine research to private firms. It is poised to spend billions more next year and possibly beyond.

The potential conflicts are not limited to the coronavirus for Krein, 53, a Philadelphia-based head-and-neck surgeon who got into venture investing not long after he began dating Biden’s daughter, Ashley, in 2010.

So your saying the guys life needs to end once his father in law runs for president????
He should close his businesses and just do what? Live in a cave?

"""StartUp Health announced its intention to invest $1 million across 10 startups with coronavirus applications within 30 days."""

$1 million between 10 startups?
That's walking around money(as common man would say) in the venture capital world.

Why aren't you talking about foreign governments renting rooms in Trump hotels? Hmm which is a more direct conflict of interest????

 

[Wally]

So, because this was moving too slowly for the election, Rudy just dropped it on the Post?

Probably and with Trumps blessing.