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> Yet the only people with the evidence are Giuliani, Steve Bannon, New York Tabloids, ????

Don't forget Robert Costello (who vetted it and gave it to Giuliani), the FBI, the DoJ, Fox News, the Federalist, the Wall Street Journal, the Daily Caller, Breitbart News, and a couple un-named friends of the computer shop owner that he gave it to because he feared for his life ...

According to Giuliani, the FBI agent answered, "Don't worry, if you keep your mouth shut, nothing will happen." The former NYC mayor added that the shop owner gave the original hard drive to the FBI, but also made four copies, leaving two "with friends of his in case he was killed."

See https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-hunter-biden-emails-hard-drive
The FBI and the DOJ have the evidence? Ok....sure they do. Why haven't there been any arrests? Because the fake news being kicked around is nonsence.

As for Fonks News, the Federalist, daily failer, breitbart, the Trump dotard computer store owner. You realize that this is the fringe right wing echo chamber kicking the "info" back and forth to one another. None of those are credible sources. Those are trash propaganda sources.
 

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I wonder what's going on with the Hunter Biden thing.

Oh....nothing. They have the emails but still haven't released any proof.

Go figure.
They accidentally mixed the "proof" in with the blank pages of the "Trump Health Care Plan" they gave 60 Minutes. Fraud Guarantee Rudy G's on a recon mission to get it back. Have no fear!
 

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> A .jpeg of a real "email".

It's called a screenshot.

I'm sure if you showed your press credentials, they'd let you have a copy of the email. But those things are not very print-pretty - better to look at the jpeg version.
A screenshot is not evidence. The ability to tamper with something like that is far too easy to be considered "evidence" at all.

You'd realize that....but in the previous post of mine that you quoted....you talked about all the sources with the evidence as if the right wing fringe is credible. Clearly your opinion on the subject is as skewed as booj and KFC's opinion.
 

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They accidentally mixed the "proof" in with the blank pages of the "Trump Health Care Plan" they gave 60 Minutes. Fraud Guarantee Rudy G's on a recon mission to get it back. Have no fear!
40 of those pages simply said "Lock Them Up" in different fonts. Trump's favorite one was wingdings. He bigly understands that stuff. Amazing really.
 

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Fine. Advisor position. Might as well be a cabinet position. Sending Kushner for middle east "peace."

Tomato - tomato
Jared and Ivanka both have more sway over Trump than any cabinet member. Beeg and every other Trumpster knows this. They don't care.
 

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Jared and Ivanka both have more sway over Trump than any cabinet member. Beeg and every other Trumpster knows this. They don't care.
This is awesome, the level of hypocrisy of Howie reaches new highs (or should I say, new lows).

Hunter "the gatherer" gets millions from Russia, billions from China, $80K a month from Ukraine, diamonds and $100K shopping sprees from foreign countries, all for doing nothing other than getting "Big Daddy" his cut, selling access to the White House, and to have Joe do his bidding. To Howie that's great and to be applauded.

Jared on the other hand is one of the major players in negotiating probably the greatest peace agreements in the Middle East in our lifetimes, he is perhaps the key person in this achievement (which BTW is an accomplishment that during the Obama/Biden administration we were told would be impossible to achieve), and to Howie, that's corrupt.

I get that Jared is Jewish and you've made Anti-Semite posts, but really, implying someone is corrupt because they've negotiated peace deals between Israel and Muslim countries, that's a new level of low even for you Howie.
 
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Fine. Advisor position. Might as well be a cabinet position. Sending Kushner for middle east "peace."

Tomato - tomato
I think your real concern is that the Arabs are making peace with Israel, because of Jared's work there. Personally, I think he did a great job.
 

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I think your real concern is that the Arabs are making peace with Israel, because of Jared's work there. Personally, I think he did a great job.
Anti-Semitism is very much on the rise with the liberals these days. Look at what's happening here in the U.S. such as Governor Cuomo's Hostility Towards Jews. This past weekend in New York liberals were throwing rocks at Jewish people during a gathering they hosted, yet the MSM hardly mentions it. You see the anti-Semitism in these threads as well. Sad, but unfortunately true.
 

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I think your real concern is that the Arabs are making peace with Israel, because of Jared's work there. Personally, I think he did a great job.
I think your real concern is that the Arabs are making peace with Israel, because of Jared's work there. Personally, I think he did a great job.
Yup.
 

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Spoof, explore the list of administration officials convicted of crimes by administration in modern US history. Explore the list of scandals by administration. Obama's administration was almost saintly by any regard, so I have no idea whatsoever where you're going with that. Clinton had the Monica scandal, but getting a BJ in the WH isn't exactly the definition of "corruption".

You might want to polish up on your American history. While realizing any list has some subjectivity, here's a good place to start regarding the most corrupt administrations.


Here's a partially detailed map of corruption in the Trump administration:


Here's a half-list, since it only goes through late 2018.

Here is the problem with your Obama theory. Just because you can cover up your mistakes doesn't mean they weren't made. Obama's biggest mistake was Hillary Clinton. If it wasn't for her he probably would have had a pretty clean Presidency.
 

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I've been skimming some of the posts. I haven't seen humbled beggar work this hard to not be able to prove something since Beeghazi.
 

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Well...here we are 34 pages into "Hunter Biden's emails"....

What we know now:
-They remain true and the Biden campaign does not deny them
-They are not Russian disinformation per the FBI and DNI
-Joe is the Big Guy getting a percentage per both Bobulinski and Cooney, partners with Hunter
-The Biden family was involved in deals in Russia, China, Khasakstan and Ukraine for sure
-All of the business they were doing was dependent upon Joe Biden's power and influence either as Senator, VP or possible Presidential candidate
-The lefties here who came out in the beginning and claimed that they doubted the story knew from the beginning that Joe was corrupt. Now they justify it by saying that Trump is worse-- based on zero evidence.
- A special counsel is probably needed at this point. The scenario sets up that Biden, if elected, would likely have to resign in his first year and then would depend on a pardon for he and his family from Kamala. He is running to avoid accountability. We all see it.
 

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Well...here we are 34 pages into "Hunter Biden's emails"....

What we know now:
-They remain true and the Biden campaign does not deny them
-They are not Russian disinformation per the FBI and DNI
-Joe is the Big Guy getting a percentage per both Bobulinski and Cooney, partners with Hunter
-The Biden family was involved in deals in Russia, China, Khasakstan and Ukraine for sure
-All of the business they were doing was dependent upon Joe Biden's power and influence either as Senator, VP or possible Presidential candidate
-The lefties here who came out in the beginning and claimed that they doubted the story knew from the beginning that Joe was corrupt. Now they justify it by saying that Trump is worse-- based on zero evidence.
- A special counsel is probably needed at this point. The scenario sets up that Biden, if elected, would likely have to resign in his first year and then would depend on a pardon for he and his family from Kamala. He is running to avoid accountability. We all see it.
There's something very convenient about all of this to me. I don't think it would surprise some people that the intention is to take Biden down soon after he takes office. Either he's going to be declared incapable or brought down in some other way. What if Bobulinski is the guy to do it and he's been brought forth at this time by those with a much larger plan. Think of how they brought forth that idiot Vindman. They impeached Trump on his testimony and he didn't have anything. Bobulinski is pretty solid. The laptop is pretty solid. All they need is a compliant media who won't touch this thing with a 10 foot pole because of the election.
 

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This is awesome, the level of hypocrisy of Howie reaches new highs (or should I say, new lows).

Hunter "the gatherer" gets millions from Russia, billions from China, $80K a month from Ukraine, diamonds and $100K shopping sprees from foreign countries, all for doing nothing other than getting "Big Daddy" his cut, selling access to the White House, and to have Joe do his bidding. To Howie that's great and to be applauded.

Jared on the other hand is one of the major players in negotiating probably the greatest peace agreements in the Middle East in our lifetimes, he is perhaps the key person in this achievement (which BTW is an accomplishment that during the Obama/Biden administration we were told would be impossible to achieve), and to Howie, that's corrupt.

I get that Jared is Jewish and you've made Anti-Semite posts, but really, implying someone is corrupt because they've negotiated peace deals between Israel and Muslim countries, that's a new level of low even for you Howie.
How about the hundreds of millions the middle east countries have put into Jareds family business. Grow up already...
 

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Anti-Semitism is very much on the rise with the liberals these days. Look at what's happening here in the U.S. such as Governor Cuomo's Hostility Towards Jews. This past weekend in New York liberals were throwing rocks at Jewish people during a gathering they hosted, yet the MSM hardly mentions it. You see the anti-Semitism in these threads as well. Sad, but unfortunately true.
The liberal's attack on Jewish people is spreading from the top leadership to the minions on the street.

 

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I have a question. Why has the name John Paul Mac Isaac never been mentioned in this thread?
 

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There's something very convenient about all of this to me. I don't think it would surprise some people that the intention is to take Biden down soon after he takes office. Either he's going to be declared incapable or brought down in some other way. What if Bobulinski is the guy to do it and he's been brought forth at this time by those with a much larger plan. Think of how they brought forth that idiot Vindman. They impeached Trump on his testimony and he didn't have anything. Bobulinski is pretty solid. The laptop is pretty solid. All they need is a compliant media who won't touch this thing with a 10 foot pole because of the election.
They would take Biden down soon after he is in office. No doubt in my mind. But if their plan was to do so they would not use Bobulinski until after the election. They have to win first. The Bobulinski testimony is going to be heard over the next week and will sway some fence riders. I think Bobulinski got screwed by the Bidens and then when Hunter's emails came out, he decided he was going to get in front of this deal and clear his name before the Bidens set him up to take the fall.

It is going to be close. This nation and our freedom is on the line here. If the media gets away with it this time, there is no stopping them. Their power is now immense. Dissenters in the media will start to get bought off or disappear. Fox is on their way out as a conservative voice already...they are keeping their money makers for now but their metamorphasis will continue.
 

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all this BS about hunters emails, 30+ pages....and no mention by the fellas that we KNOW Joe Biden took no money.

How do we know?

We have his tax returns on public display. That proves there is nothing to this.

Wonder why we don't have Trump's returns....
 

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all this BS about hunters emails, 30+ pages....and no mention by the fellas that we KNOW Joe Biden took no money.

How do we know?

We have his tax returns on public display. That proves there is nothing to this.

Wonder why we don't have Trump's returns....
This is the dumbest post of 2020 and perhaps by a long shot. And you create some pretty stiff competition for yourself, I have to say....
 

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This is the dumbest post of 2020 and perhaps by a long shot. And you create some pretty stiff competition for yourself, I have to say....
Criminals don’t put their illegal earnings on their tax returns. Tax returns mean nothing.
 

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This is the dumbest post of 2020 and perhaps by a long shot. And you create some pretty stiff competition for yourself, I have to say....
Sidekick thinks Joe would use direct deposit for this.
 

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Criminals don’t put their illegal earnings on their tax returns. Tax returns mean nothing.
There are so many ways to move money both on and off of tax returns.

Money can be laundered into other, legitimate income streams. Biden had a sudden surge of income in 2017 after he left office. That year 11 million reported. He had a book deal - a book that sold 300,000 copies (not exactly a blockbuster) that netted him millions and speaking engagements also got him millions. These are excellent ways to get favors paid back- through a oddly lucrative book deal or speaking engagements for 100k - 200k a crack for a guy who is not real interesting to listen to (see current campaign).
Specifically he got paid some large speaking fees over 450 k total by the U of Pennsylvania Biden Center who curiously got 70 million in donations from Chinese sources during the same time period.
See how that works!?
The bulk of the Bidens’ big payday came from a book deal and speaking engagements. Joe Biden routed his book and speaking payments through a company named CelticCapri Corp., which took in $9.5 million in 2017 and $2.7 million in 2018. His memoir, Promise Me, Dad, came out in November 2017 and has sold over 300,000 copies. On his financial disclosure report, Biden listed 30 book tour events, which paid him a total of $1.8 million, plus another 19 speaking engagements that provided $2.4 million.
Other money, can be held in cash or in the Caymans or by his partners on his behalf until enough time passes.
 

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Other money, can be held in cash or in the Caymans or by his partners on his behalf until enough time passes.
Lol, because he can wait for a future payday, hilarious...
He is almost dead.
 

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Still clinging to that "it's the Russians" theory, huh. You really should be beyond Stage 1 Deny, by now. We have the laptops, we know they were Hunter's, even Team Biden isn't denying that. We have the signatures on the paperwork. We have collaboration with other data sources. We have a first-hand eye witness testifying under oath, who has phones with records and supporting text messages. The data is real, the situation is real, and it's causing liberals heads to explode.
> The data is real, the situation is real, and it's causing liberals heads to explode.

I see this as a possible scenario by which Trump might win.

Just like Hunter Biden had a brain-fart moment (perhaps due to a bit too much crack) during which he forgot to go pick up his laptop, the Dems just can't handle the truth of how corrupt the Bidens are, and this will cause a large number of their heads to explode on or about Nov. 2, and in a head-exploding stupor, they will forget to go vote for Joe on Nov. 3. Unless, that is, they mail their ballots before exploding-head syndrome arrives.
 

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The Primary system is failing us all. If the parties are going to allow voters to choose who that party represents (which I think is very flawed, just have the party leaders put forth their best candidate and get rid of primaries altogether!), then they need to at least open up the voting to ALL voters.

As a registered Independent who does not feel a part of nor desire to be part of any political party, I cannot vote in the primaries at all. Trust me when I say that if I could, I would be voting for people closest to the middle, people who would work with everyone else to better us all. The radicalism of the Primary process is contributing strongly to our split. Abolish it.
> Trust me when I say that if I could, I would be voting for people closest to the middle, people who would work with everyone else to better us all.

Sounds like you want something similar to Brett Weinstein's idea of a new Unity party. He had 2020 in mind but that was insanely over-optimistic, so 2024 might be a more rational goal.

> The radicalism of the Primary process is contributing strongly to our split. Abolish it.

Well, when you have an incumbent who has done as many things to help the country as Trump has, I guess it's a done deal for the Republican Party (no matter how much some people hate his mannerisms).

But for the Dems, the primary process sure failed them bigly this time around. You had the only semi-centrist-sounding candidate being (maybe) Amy, but she's as boring as watching tea brew.

Among the rest of em, they all seemed to want to out-socialist each other to the point of making the debates seem like a bunch of crazy people all trying to shout each other down. Medicare for all? Medicare is the most poorly designed, f-ed up system ever invented by mankind, and it just barely hangs together (while processing only the subset of people over 65) thanks to great efforts from our (health) insurance industry (which, by the way, the screamers were all proposing to eliminate that entire efficient industry with one signature, when they should be asking that industry to help them design something much better than medicare for all to provide a baseline medical coverage for everybody but still allow people to buy additional insurance from the industry, perhaps partly paid by your employer). Not only are primaries a horrible idea for selecting presidential candidates, primary debates are a ridiculously stupid way to redesign health-care policy. Kinda-like, let's let a dozen or so of the stupidest (copy-cat) people in the country stand up by podiums with microphones, and while standing there, let them make the worst possible decisions possible about what our future health-care system should look like. Sheesh.

The Dem primary debates, all by themselves, were just about enough to convince me that I couldn't vote for a Democrat. They were all a bunch of blathering idiots on that stage!

Then out of all the (admittedly bad) options that they had, the Dems settle on the absolute worst choice, with the second-worst choice being picked for running mate? WTF? Not only that, they picked somebody who has Alzheimers and can't remember who he's running against, or where he is, or what's his stance on fracking. And has to be hopped up on drugs to make it through a debate.

The historians will truly agree with @cncmin that the year 2020 marks the time that we truly discovered that the primary process is broken.

Maybe we should abandon primaries and just go to a ranked-choice voting system in which, if your first choice (in your state) doesn't come in the top two, your vote is allocated to your next choice. The top two in each state get the state's electoral votes allocated among them on a pro-rated basis. Then the state's electoral votes are merged in the electoral college, again using ranked-choice at the electoral-college level.

It's complicated, but it eliminates that ridiculous primary business.

The top-two electoral-college vote-getters would become President and Vice President. They would have to work together, even if they hated each other. So things would be more centrist and less partisan. This is actually the way the founding fathers started things out initially. Then they invented political parties, and politics has gone to hell in a handbasket ever since - especially after the invention of PACs that let business interests have an infinite number of ($) votes while the people are limited to one vote each.
 
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