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Sooooo... this was not spontaneous? Not just some "very fine people" who were simply "caught up in the excitement"?

I'm sure the guy who brought a hockey stick just thought a street hockey game was going to break out. And a bunch of them were also really worried about the Grizzly Bear population in DC.
 

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I'm sure the guy who brought a hockey stick just thought a street hockey game was going to break out. And a bunch of them were also really worried about the Grizzly Bear population in DC.

Boot Hockey Rulez!
 

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Sooooo... this was not spontaneous? Not just some "very fine people" who were simply "caught up in the excitement"?

They had a spontaneous insurrection - I used to have those in 8th grade math class when Lynn Johnson use to pick up her pencil that I accidentally kept knocking off her desk.
 

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Sooooo... this was not spontaneous? Not just some "very fine people" who were simply "caught up in the excitement"?
The Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys coordinating. Two groups we're told "barely exist" by 2 and The Fellas. Meanwhile I still can't get a # for my local Antifa rep!
 

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So... a guy who received almost $100,000 in government relief funds stormed the Capitol.

What is it with these people?
 

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So... a guy who received almost $100,000 in government relief funds stormed the Capitol.

What is it with these people?

They were pissed they didn't get more?

They have no macro thought process IMO. Due to a couple of reasons (best I can figure) -

They aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.
They are narcissistic psychopaths - Tiny Trumps.
A combination of the above.

I've met plenty of small business owners and worked for a couple that weren't thought leaders; they worked in their family business/inherited them - I added this in case the fellers come back with, but with the defense, but they're both business owners, as if that is a measure of sophistication and the fount of knowledge.
 

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The Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys coordinating. Two groups we're told "barely exist" by 2 and The Fellas. Meanwhile I still can't get a # for my local Antifa rep!

CNN is delving into it now - some of these Oaf Keepers and Proud Girlz may never see the light of day. Fine Fellers!

The email below shows planning for the insurrection by head Oaf Keeper -

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Officer Brian Sicknick Died After the Capitol Riot. New Videos Show How He Was Attacked.

By Evan Hill, David Botti, Dmitriy Khavin, Drew Jordan and Malachy BrowneMarch 24, 2021

New videos obtained by The New York Times show publicly for the first time how the U.S. Capitol Police officer who died after facing off with rioters on Jan. 6 was attacked with chemical spray.

The officer, Brian D. Sicknick, who had been guarding the west side of the Capitol, collapsed later that day and died the next night. Little had been known about what happened to Officer Sicknick during the assault, and the previously unpublished videos provide new details about when, where and how he was attacked, as well as about the events leading up to the encounter.

The New York Times/Here And There Media

Two rioters, Julian Elie Khater and George Pierre Tanios, were arrested on March 14 and charged with assaulting Officer Sicknick and two other officers with chemical spray. The investigation is continuing, and federal prosecutors haven’t ruled out pursuing murder charges.

Here’s what the videos show.

Mr. Khater and Mr. Tanios arrive near the police line on the west side of the Capitol at 2:09 p.m., more than an hour into the battle between rioters and police officers, according to an F.B.I. affidavit. An independent video journalist at the scene films Mr. Khater shortly after he arrives. Mr. Khater observes the fighting as tear gas and chemical spray waft through the crowd, then turns back toward where Mr. Tanios is standing.

Here And There Media

At 2:14 p.m., he and Mr. Tanios huddle just a few yards from the police line, according to the F.B.I. Part of their conversation is captured in a separate video.

“Give me that bear shit,” Mr. Khater tells Mr. Tanios, most likely referring to a canister of bear repellent spray that prosecutors say Mr. Tanios purchased earlier that day.

He appears to retrieve something from Mr. Tanios’s backpack. After Mr. Tanios tells him to wait, Mr. Khater responds, “They just sprayed me.” He holds a white spray canister in his right hand.

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On Monday, federal prosecutors alleged in court that Mr. Khater and Mr. Tanios were carrying Frontiersman bear spray, which is manufactured by Sabre, a company that makes self-defense products including pepper spray and stun guns. Though made from the same ingredient, bear spray can be many times more powerful than pepper sprays sold for self-defense and is not meant for use on humans.

Images of the bear spray sold by Sabre appear to be similar to the canister seen in Mr. Khater’s hand at one point in the video.

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By 2:20 p.m., six minutes later, Mr. Khater has returned to the police line, where Officer Sicknick and his colleagues are standing behind a row of bike rack barricades. He stands just a few feet from Officer Sicknick, who can be seen wearing a blue Capitol Police jacket, bicycle helmet and black coronavirus face mask.

Here And There Media

For about two minutes, Mr. Khater waits in the crowd, observing the police. Then, at 2:23 p.m., rioters try to pull the bike racks away from the officers. As a lieutenant in a white uniform fires a spray into the crowd, and a rioter charges in to attack a Metropolitan Police officer, Mr. Khater raises his arm over other rioters and sprays something toward Officer Sicknick.

A thin stream of liquid is visible shooting from a canister in Mr. Khater’s hand. It is unclear in the video what Mr. Khater is firing, and prosecutors have alleged that Mr. Tanios brought two smaller canisters of pepper spray to the Capitol in addition to two cans of Frontiersman bear spray.

Officer Sicknick reacts immediately to the spray, turning and raising his hand.

Here And There Media/FBI

In court on Monday, prosecutors played body camera footage of the incident for the first time. The grainy videos showed Mr. Khater raising his hand and discharging a chemical spray at the officers, who stumble back, cover their eyes and at times call out in pain. The Metropolitan Police Department has declined to release that footage to the public.

A series of still images shot by photographer Kenny Holston captured the same moment. They show Officer Sicknick retreat, bend over and try to wash out his eyes and face with water.

Kenneth Holston for The New York Times

The last time Officer Sicknick appears in the videos or the photographs, he is bent over by the scaffolding erected for President Biden’s upcoming inauguration.

The attack on Officer Sicknick and his colleagues comes at a key moment. Within five minutes, the police line collapses, officers retreat into the Capitol and rioters gain control over the west side of the building. Some officers regroup to guard a key doorway, where they will fight a brutal battle that lasts for more than two hours, during which a mob will drag at least four officers into the crowd and beat them.

After the police have retreated, the footage shows Mr. Khater and Mr. Tanios once more, standing back from the crowd. Mr. Khater is seen talking to two unknown men wearing tactical vests and can be heard discussing what the mob should do next.

Here And There Media

That evening, Officer Sicknick texted his brother to say he had been “pepper-sprayed” but was in “good shape,” his brother told ProPublica. But shortly before 10 p.m., according to the Capitol Police, he collapsed after returning to his division office and was taken to a local hospital. At some point over the next 24 hours, Officer Sicknick’s condition apparently deteriorated. He was put on a ventilator and treated for a blood clot and a stroke, his brother said. He died at about 9:30 p.m. on Jan. 7.

Another Capitol Police officer who was standing next to Officer Sicknick during the attack told investigators that she still had burn scabs under her eyes from the spray three weeks after Jan. 6.

Washington’s chief medical examiner has yet to release Officer Sicknick’s autopsy or cause of death. Michael R. Sherwin, who as acting U.S. attorney in Washington had been leading the Capitol riot investigations, told “60 Minutes” that if evidence connected the chemicals sprayed at Officer Sicknick with his death, “that's a murder case.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/03/24/us/officer-sicknick-capitol-riot.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
 
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Before storming the Capitol, insurrection suspect Dominic Pezzola received a PPP loan from the government. *Got $12,502 for his company, D Pezzola Flooring.


Going to be tough to run his business while in jail...dumbass

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Prosecutors made some serious claims after the deadly U.S. Capitol attack, saying they had evidence rioters planned to kill elected officials, suggesting a Virginia man at the building received directives to gas lawmakers, and accusing another suspect of directing mayhem on Jan. 6 with encrypted messages.

But the Justice Department has since acknowledged in court hearings that some of its evidence concerning the riot - carried out by a mob of supporters of former President Donald Trump to try to overturn his election loss - is less damning than it initially indicated.

The department suffered another blow this week when U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta threatened to impose a gag order on prosecutors after Michael Sherwin, its former head prosecutor on the Capitol cases, told CBS’s “60 Minutes” program that evidence pointed toward sedition charges against some defendants.

A charge of sedition - meaning incitement of a rebellion - has not been brought against any of the more than 400 people arrested to date. The most serious charges have been assault, conspiracy and obstruction of Congress or law enforcement.

Prosecutors are in the early stages of building criminal cases ahead of the trials stemming from an attack that left five people dead including a police officer, forced lawmakers to hide for their own safety and interrupted the formal congressional certification of President Joe Biden’s election victory.

But missteps by the government could harm its credibility as accused ringleaders begin asking courts to drop some of the most serious charges.

“They are trying to build the most horrendous cases they can because the public wants it - and this is politicizing criminal justice,” said Gerald B. Lefcourt, who for decades has represented high-profile defendants in political demonstrations, including Black Panther leaders and “Chicago Seven” trial figure Abbie Hoffman.

The Justice Department declined to comment, saying it cannot discuss ongoing cases.

SWEEPING PROBE​

Prosecutors are focused on investigating whether rioters conspired in advance. Sherwin established a task force focused on whether to bring seditious conspiracy charges.

About two dozen defendants are facing conspiracy charges including 10 people accused of ties to the right-wing anti-government Oath Keepers militia.

On Jan. 19, prosecutors said they believed Thomas Caldwell, a retired U.S. Navy officer from Virginia, had a “leadership role” within the Oath Keepers. The FBI, in a criminal complaint, described Facebook messages Caldwell allegedly sent and received “while at the Capitol,” including one urging him to turn on the gas and tear up the floorboards.

“‘All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas,’” it read.

A prosecutor in Florida read those words aloud in February in a bid to convince a judge to detain two of Caldwell’s co-defendants. Prosecutors now acknowledge that Caldwell was not even a dues-paying member of the Oath Keepers and that they lack evidence he ever entered the Capitol.

There also are questions about the Facebook messages. Caldwell’s lawyer said in a March 10 court filing those messages were sent by two men who were more than 60 miles (100 km) away at the time and had no connection to the Oath Keepers. The comments were apparently satirical, albeit “tasteless,” his lawyer said, and Caldwell never responded to them.

Prosecutors have made no references to these Facebook messages in subsequent indictments and court filings. The judge has since released Caldwell on home detention, saying: “There’s evidence here that I think is favorable to Mr. Caldwell.”

Caldwell has pleaded not guilty.

In January, prosecutors in Arizona who were seeking to detain a man named Jacob Chansley, famously pictured inside the Capitol donning face paint and horns on his head, said they had “strong evidence,” including “Chansley’s own words and actions,” that the “intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials.” They reversed course the next day.

In another case, prosecutors said in a March 1 court filing that Ethan Nordean, a member of the right-wing Proud Boys group, “dressed all in black, wearing a tactical vest, led the Proud Boys through the use of encrypted communications.” Prosecutors subsequently acknowledged that Nordean’s cell phone battery died on Jan. 6 and was not functioning the entire day.

A judge denied a prosecution bid to jail Nordean, citing a “dearth of evidence” that he directed others to use or carry weapons. Prosecutors are now making a third attempt to have him detained.

Michael Ferrara, a former federal prosecutor now with the law firm Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP, said while bail arguments do not require the same high standard of proof as criminal trials and can sometimes venture into “hyperbole,” some of the potential issues with the evidence in the Oath Keepers case could haunt prosecutors.

If it turns out prosecutors misunderstood the meaning of certain text messages, that would not be a “small error,” Ferrara said. This could “color the way the judge sees this case going forward” and impact outcomes on everything from plea deals to motions to dismiss charges, Ferrara added.

Amid setbacks, prosecutors abandon some claims in U.S.
 

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With an attempt to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power by preventing the counting of electoral votes as well as credible threats to the lives of the Vice President and members of Congress.

None of this is true. I can't believe that you're spewing this type of hyperbole. You're normally pretty level headed.

It was a riot. They were not trying to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. That's patently false. They were hoping to influence Pence to reject the delegates from contested states, as is outlined in the Constitution and perfectly legal.

Which credible threats to the lives of the VP & members of Congress, specifically? Do you think Trump & GOP members of Congress didn't have their lives threatened for 4+ years? Hell, while the GOP was trying to get recounts in the corrupted election cities, Judges, witnesses, & legislators routinely had their lives & the lives of their children threatened. The Democrat from Michigan (Cynthia Johnson?) in televised hearings asked the eye witnesses only one question...Their home addresses. The same woman went on TV and urged "{students fo color" to confront the children of Michigan legislators who wanted transparency. This was an actual elected Democrat official, doing that to civilians & children. Also, where was your outrage when a Democrat literally tried to kill every single GOP Congressman at a baseball game? The left just shrugged that one off too. Or the Summer of burning & looting by BLM/Antifa? Dozens murdered, Government buildings attacked over & over, firebombed, officers blinded by lasers, and at least one attempt to burn the police alive inside the police station after they sealed the doors shut from the outside. The POTUS & his family had to be evacuated in May when the Democrat protesters tried to stormd the White House. The Dems also stormed the Senate & Senate offices twice during the Kavanugh hearings as well. You're honestly so far into this partisan rabbit-hole that all of the things I listed are inconsequential, but 50 people running amok in the Capital has you supporting all the dictatorial & militaristic crap that's happening now? Yikes.
 

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Prosecutors made some serious claims after the deadly U.S. Capitol attack, saying they had evidence rioters planned to kill elected officials, suggesting a Virginia man at the building received directives to gas lawmakers, and accusing another suspect of directing mayhem on Jan. 6 with encrypted messages.

But the Justice Department has since acknowledged in court hearings that some of its evidence concerning the riot - carried out by a mob of supporters of former President Donald Trump to try to overturn his election loss - is less damning than it initially indicated.

The department suffered another blow this week when U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta threatened to impose a gag order on prosecutors after Michael Sherwin, its former head prosecutor on the Capitol cases, told CBS’s “60 Minutes” program that evidence pointed toward sedition charges against some defendants.

A charge of sedition - meaning incitement of a rebellion - has not been brought against any of the more than 400 people arrested to date. The most serious charges have been assault, conspiracy and obstruction of Congress or law enforcement.

Prosecutors are in the early stages of building criminal cases ahead of the trials stemming from an attack that left five people dead including a police officer, forced lawmakers to hide for their own safety and interrupted the formal congressional certification of President Joe Biden’s election victory.

But missteps by the government could harm its credibility as accused ringleaders begin asking courts to drop some of the most serious charges.

“They are trying to build the most horrendous cases they can because the public wants it - and this is politicizing criminal justice,” said Gerald B. Lefcourt, who for decades has represented high-profile defendants in political demonstrations, including Black Panther leaders and “Chicago Seven” trial figure Abbie Hoffman.

The Justice Department declined to comment, saying it cannot discuss ongoing cases.

SWEEPING PROBE​

Prosecutors are focused on investigating whether rioters conspired in advance. Sherwin established a task force focused on whether to bring seditious conspiracy charges.

About two dozen defendants are facing conspiracy charges including 10 people accused of ties to the right-wing anti-government Oath Keepers militia.

On Jan. 19, prosecutors said they believed Thomas Caldwell, a retired U.S. Navy officer from Virginia, had a “leadership role” within the Oath Keepers. The FBI, in a criminal complaint, described Facebook messages Caldwell allegedly sent and received “while at the Capitol,” including one urging him to turn on the gas and tear up the floorboards.

“‘All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas,’” it read.

A prosecutor in Florida read those words aloud in February in a bid to convince a judge to detain two of Caldwell’s co-defendants. Prosecutors now acknowledge that Caldwell was not even a dues-paying member of the Oath Keepers and that they lack evidence he ever entered the Capitol.

There also are questions about the Facebook messages. Caldwell’s lawyer said in a March 10 court filing those messages were sent by two men who were more than 60 miles (100 km) away at the time and had no connection to the Oath Keepers. The comments were apparently satirical, albeit “tasteless,” his lawyer said, and Caldwell never responded to them.

Prosecutors have made no references to these Facebook messages in subsequent indictments and court filings. The judge has since released Caldwell on home detention, saying: “There’s evidence here that I think is favorable to Mr. Caldwell.”

Caldwell has pleaded not guilty.

In January, prosecutors in Arizona who were seeking to detain a man named Jacob Chansley, famously pictured inside the Capitol donning face paint and horns on his head, said they had “strong evidence,” including “Chansley’s own words and actions,” that the “intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials.” They reversed course the next day.

In another case, prosecutors said in a March 1 court filing that Ethan Nordean, a member of the right-wing Proud Boys group, “dressed all in black, wearing a tactical vest, led the Proud Boys through the use of encrypted communications.” Prosecutors subsequently acknowledged that Nordean’s cell phone battery died on Jan. 6 and was not functioning the entire day.

A judge denied a prosecution bid to jail Nordean, citing a “dearth of evidence” that he directed others to use or carry weapons. Prosecutors are now making a third attempt to have him detained.

Michael Ferrara, a former federal prosecutor now with the law firm Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP, said while bail arguments do not require the same high standard of proof as criminal trials and can sometimes venture into “hyperbole,” some of the potential issues with the evidence in the Oath Keepers case could haunt prosecutors.

If it turns out prosecutors misunderstood the meaning of certain text messages, that would not be a “small error,” Ferrara said. This could “color the way the judge sees this case going forward” and impact outcomes on everything from plea deals to motions to dismiss charges, Ferrara added.

Amid setbacks, prosecutors abandon some claims in U.S.
You really don't think anything would have happened if some of these people caught Pelosi, AOC or others? Really? You think a mob just says hi and shakes their hands?
 

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You really don't think anything would have happened if some of these people caught Pelosi, AOC or others? Really? You think a mob just says hi and shakes their hands?

That's a strawman argument. You're so desperate to paint anyone who disagrees with your politics as a domestic terrorist, that you've gone off the deep end.

These people went to the capitol to protest a very suspect election & to encourage Pence to invalidate the contested electors, as is written in the Constitution, has historical precedent & is perfectly legal. They did not go to the Capital to hurt Pelosi, AOC, or others. I could make the same straw man arguments about dozens of Dem protests. You think after breaching the fence in May when the left tried to storm the White House, that they wouldn't have hurt Barron or Melania if they'd caught them? You think the protestors who stormed the Senate offices wouldn't have done anything to Mitch McConnell or the other GOP Senators who had to barricade themselves in their offices?

I can take it one step further & list actual examples of violent leftists hurting Republicans. A deranged Democrat tried to shoot every single GOP Congressman at a baseball game. A deranged Democrat attacked Sen. Rand Paul from behind, breaking several ribs & forcing him to have surgery to remove part of his lung. You're worried about what theoretically could have happened to Pelosi or AOC?

The fact that Pelosi has turned DC into a military fort, despite there being no current threat, that we just saw the Dems leading the National Guard into the office of another Congresswoman they don't like & the US Marines under Biden are taking to twitter to dress down Fox's Tucker Carlson, has me as a traditional liberal, far more concerned about the Dem response to the riot, than I am the riot itself.

Imagine if Trump had done any of this? When Trump threatened to send in the National Guard to Seattle & Portland, the left screamed he was a dictator. When Trump did have to use the National Guard after the attack on the White House, the left screamed that it was proof he was a dictator. Now here we are 2.5 months after Jan 6th & the Dems have soldiers in DC indefinitely & are using them to intimidate political opponents. For people who were so concerned about the US turning into a dictatorship under Trump, it puzzles me how you can miss the eerie similarities to places like Cuba or Venezuela, under Biden/Pelosi?
 

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Officer Brian Sicknick Died After the Capitol Riot. New Videos Show How He Was Attacked.

By Evan Hill, David Botti, Dmitriy Khavin, Drew Jordan and Malachy BrowneMarch 24, 2021

New videos obtained by The New York Times show publicly for the first time how the U.S. Capitol Police officer who died after facing off with rioters on Jan. 6 was attacked with chemical spray.

The officer, Brian D. Sicknick, who had been guarding the west side of the Capitol, collapsed later that day and died the next night. Little had been known about what happened to Officer Sicknick during the assault, and the previously unpublished videos provide new details about when, where and how he was attacked, as well as about the events leading up to the encounter.

The New York Times/Here And There Media

Two rioters, Julian Elie Khater and George Pierre Tanios, were arrested on March 14 and charged with assaulting Officer Sicknick and two other officers with chemical spray. The investigation is continuing, and federal prosecutors haven’t ruled out pursuing murder charges.

Here’s what the videos show.

Mr. Khater and Mr. Tanios arrive near the police line on the west side of the Capitol at 2:09 p.m., more than an hour into the battle between rioters and police officers, according to an F.B.I. affidavit. An independent video journalist at the scene films Mr. Khater shortly after he arrives. Mr. Khater observes the fighting as tear gas and chemical spray waft through the crowd, then turns back toward where Mr. Tanios is standing.

Here And There Media

At 2:14 p.m., he and Mr. Tanios huddle just a few yards from the police line, according to the F.B.I. Part of their conversation is captured in a separate video.

“Give me that bear shit,” Mr. Khater tells Mr. Tanios, most likely referring to a canister of bear repellent spray that prosecutors say Mr. Tanios purchased earlier that day.

He appears to retrieve something from Mr. Tanios’s backpack. After Mr. Tanios tells him to wait, Mr. Khater responds, “They just sprayed me.” He holds a white spray canister in his right hand.

The Convo Couch

On Monday, federal prosecutors alleged in court that Mr. Khater and Mr. Tanios were carrying Frontiersman bear spray, which is manufactured by Sabre, a company that makes self-defense products including pepper spray and stun guns. Though made from the same ingredient, bear spray can be many times more powerful than pepper sprays sold for self-defense and is not meant for use on humans.

Images of the bear spray sold by Sabre appear to be similar to the canister seen in Mr. Khater’s hand at one point in the video.

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The Convo Couch/Sabre

By 2:20 p.m., six minutes later, Mr. Khater has returned to the police line, where Officer Sicknick and his colleagues are standing behind a row of bike rack barricades. He stands just a few feet from Officer Sicknick, who can be seen wearing a blue Capitol Police jacket, bicycle helmet and black coronavirus face mask.

Here And There Media

For about two minutes, Mr. Khater waits in the crowd, observing the police. Then, at 2:23 p.m., rioters try to pull the bike racks away from the officers. As a lieutenant in a white uniform fires a spray into the crowd, and a rioter charges in to attack a Metropolitan Police officer, Mr. Khater raises his arm over other rioters and sprays something toward Officer Sicknick.

A thin stream of liquid is visible shooting from a canister in Mr. Khater’s hand. It is unclear in the video what Mr. Khater is firing, and prosecutors have alleged that Mr. Tanios brought two smaller canisters of pepper spray to the Capitol in addition to two cans of Frontiersman bear spray.

Officer Sicknick reacts immediately to the spray, turning and raising his hand.

Here And There Media/FBI

In court on Monday, prosecutors played body camera footage of the incident for the first time. The grainy videos showed Mr. Khater raising his hand and discharging a chemical spray at the officers, who stumble back, cover their eyes and at times call out in pain. The Metropolitan Police Department has declined to release that footage to the public.

A series of still images shot by photographer Kenny Holston captured the same moment. They show Officer Sicknick retreat, bend over and try to wash out his eyes and face with water.

Kenneth Holston for The New York Times

The last time Officer Sicknick appears in the videos or the photographs, he is bent over by the scaffolding erected for President Biden’s upcoming inauguration.

The attack on Officer Sicknick and his colleagues comes at a key moment. Within five minutes, the police line collapses, officers retreat into the Capitol and rioters gain control over the west side of the building. Some officers regroup to guard a key doorway, where they will fight a brutal battle that lasts for more than two hours, during which a mob will drag at least four officers into the crowd and beat them.

After the police have retreated, the footage shows Mr. Khater and Mr. Tanios once more, standing back from the crowd. Mr. Khater is seen talking to two unknown men wearing tactical vests and can be heard discussing what the mob should do next.

Here And There Media

That evening, Officer Sicknick texted his brother to say he had been “pepper-sprayed” but was in “good shape,” his brother told ProPublica. But shortly before 10 p.m., according to the Capitol Police, he collapsed after returning to his division office and was taken to a local hospital. At some point over the next 24 hours, Officer Sicknick’s condition apparently deteriorated. He was put on a ventilator and treated for a blood clot and a stroke, his brother said. He died at about 9:30 p.m. on Jan. 7.

Another Capitol Police officer who was standing next to Officer Sicknick during the attack told investigators that she still had burn scabs under her eyes from the spray three weeks after Jan. 6.

Washington’s chief medical examiner has yet to release Officer Sicknick’s autopsy or cause of death. Michael R. Sherwin, who as acting U.S. attorney in Washington had been leading the Capitol riot investigations, told “60 Minutes” that if evidence connected the chemicals sprayed at Officer Sicknick with his death, “that's a murder case.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/03/24/us/officer-sicknick-capitol-riot.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I saw that the attack this morning on CNN and almost hurled.

Remembered what one of our resident snowflakes (CRG??) posited that the attack wasn't a big deal which Hero Sidnick endured because he told someone in a phone call that he was okay that night and he didn't die until the following day, LOL What he/they don't realize apparently is that real heroes/men like Sidnick would tell the friend/relative that they're okay, so they wouldn't cause them to worry, cause that's what they do, SMH @ ---------------------------------------------- #snowflakes/fauxRealMen/TinyTrumpers/Small Lion Syndrome don't get it cause they ain't got it in them as they piss and moan like non-male hounds; instead they like to pretend they have the following expertise to boost their insecurities: a MD, Lawyer, Infectious Disease expert or professor of African American studies.

Hopefully all your offspring inherited you wife's jeans cause your 501s fit this a way -

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And they wonder why we have problems in this country.

Hint, Look here Fellers -



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That's a strawman argument. You're so desperate to paint anyone who disagrees with your politics as a domestic terrorist, that you've gone off the deep end.

No its not, people bringing weapons and storming the Capitol, chanting death to people, posting on social media about killing Congresspeople is not a strawman.

How about I get a mob with weapons, surround your house, post on social media I want you dead and then tell me how you would feel.

When I'm arrested I will tell the cops it was all a joke.
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This literally does not show any evidence of insurrection. None.

LOL, it shows intent and a conspiracy per a former federal prosecutor who was on during the segment, but what do they know (based on their education - law school and experience).

You are the George Constanza of the OTB - whatever you post - the opposite of it is correct - keep on rockin' Dockin.

Funny i thought you'd have a full furry mane and were a man who rocked briefs -

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That's a strawman argument. You're so desperate to paint anyone who disagrees with your politics as a domestic terrorist, that you've gone off the deep end.

These people went to the capitol to protest a very suspect election & to encourage Pence to invalidate the contested electors, as is written in the Constitution, has historical precedent & is perfectly legal. They did not go to the Capital to hurt Pelosi, AOC, or others. I could make the same straw man arguments about dozens of Dem protests. You think after breaching the fence in May when the left tried to storm the White House, that they wouldn't have hurt Barron or Melania if they'd caught them? You think the protestors who stormed the Senate offices wouldn't have done anything to Mitch McConnell or the other GOP Senators who had to barricade themselves in their offices?

I can take it one step further & list actual examples of violent leftists hurting Republicans. A deranged Democrat tried to shoot every single GOP Congressman at a baseball game. A deranged Democrat attacked Sen. Rand Paul from behind, breaking several ribs & forcing him to have surgery to remove part of his lung. You're worried about what theoretically could have happened to Pelosi or AOC?

The fact that Pelosi has turned DC into a military fort, despite there being no current threat, that we just saw the Dems leading the National Guard into the office of another Congresswoman they don't like & the US Marines under Biden are taking to twitter to dress down Fox's Tucker Carlson, has me as a traditional liberal, far more concerned about the Dem response to the riot, than I am the riot itself.

Imagine if Trump had done any of this? When Trump threatened to send in the National Guard to Seattle & Portland, the left screamed he was a dictator. When Trump did have to use the National Guard after the attack on the White House, the left screamed that it was proof he was a dictator. Now here we are 2.5 months after Jan 6th & the Dems have soldiers in DC indefinitely & are using them to intimidate political opponents. For people who were so concerned about the US turning into a dictatorship under Trump, it puzzles me how you can miss the eerie similarities to places like Cuba or Venezuela, under Biden/Pelosi?

George Strikes again!!!

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Aaaaaaaaaannnnnd, Craig shows up, defending — while 'not defending' — insurrection.

American courts of law will decide the perps' fates. And, since you 'love America', you're good with that, right?

Let American courts deal with these people.
 
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