DOJ admits yet another Jan 6th Capital riot claim is false

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Yet another Jan 6th Capital riot fake news story debunked as CNN admits "Bear mace" was never used on Officer Sicknick. No beating Sicknick with a fire extinguisher, no bringing zip-ties to abduct lawmakers, the vast majority of attendees being charged with simply trespassing, and now the DOJ admits their claims of 'Bear mace' being used on Officer Sicknick are also false.

"Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

Prosecutors addressed the seemingly small but significant difference at a detention hearing for the two men charged in connection with the chemical attack. All sides now acknowledge that the defendants, Julian Khater and George Tanios, brought bear repellant to the Capitol and that Khater asked for it just moments before the attack but ended up using pepper spray instead.

The clarification came a week after Washington's chief medical examiner ruled that Sicknick had suffered strokes and died of natural causes a day after the attack. The finding undercut theories that an allergic reaction to the chemical spray may have led to his death.


The narrative was already muddled by prosecutors repeatedly citing the bear spray, unsanctioned speculation from the former US attorney who led the probe, exaggerated statements from law enforcement and inaccurate early press reports about a fire extinguisher hitting Sicknick. "

"CNN and other outlets had reported in February that a leading theory for investigators was that a chemical irritant, possibly bear spray, may have triggered a fatal reaction and killed Sicknick.

Prosecutors also emphasized the bear spray angle.
The Justice Department news release announcing the charges in March said the officers had been hit with an "unknown chemical substance," but also quoted a video of Khater asking Tanios to "give me that bear s--t" shortly before the assault.

At Tanios' detention hearing in West Virginia, the phrase "bear spray" was brought up 20 times, according to a transcript. "

US Capitol rioters charged in Sicknick case were armed with bear spray but only used pepper spray, prosecutors say
 

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Pepper spray is different from bear spray?
You are really grasping at straws, pathetic.
 

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Pepper spray is different from bear spray?
You are really grasping at straws, pathetic.
It's significant enough that even far-left CNN is calling it "a major change" and a "significant difference".

"Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

Prosecutors addressed the
seemingly small but significant difference at a detention hearing for the two men charged in connection with the chemical attack."
 

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Major news story and cap city nowhere.
Just some stories.
Sometimes.
 

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Yet another Jan 6th Capital riot fake news story debunked as CNN admits "Bear mace" was never used on Officer Sicknick. No beating Sicknick with a fire extinguisher, no bringing zip-ties to abduct lawmakers, the vast majority of attendees being charged with simply trespassing, and now the DOJ admits their claims of 'Bear mace' being used on Officer Sicknick are also false.

"Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

Prosecutors addressed the seemingly small but significant difference at a detention hearing for the two men charged in connection with the chemical attack. All sides now acknowledge that the defendants, Julian Khater and George Tanios, brought bear repellant to the Capitol and that Khater asked for it just moments before the attack but ended up using pepper spray instead.

The clarification came a week after Washington's chief medical examiner ruled that Sicknick had suffered strokes and died of natural causes a day after the attack. The finding undercut theories that an allergic reaction to the chemical spray may have led to his death.


The narrative was already muddled by prosecutors repeatedly citing the bear spray, unsanctioned speculation from the former US attorney who led the probe, exaggerated statements from law enforcement and inaccurate early press reports about a fire extinguisher hitting Sicknick. "

"CNN and other outlets had reported in February that a leading theory for investigators was that a chemical irritant, possibly bear spray, may have triggered a fatal reaction and killed Sicknick.

Prosecutors also emphasized the bear spray angle.
The Justice Department news release announcing the charges in March said the officers had been hit with an "unknown chemical substance," but also quoted a video of Khater asking Tanios to "give me that bear s--t" shortly before the assault.

At Tanios' detention hearing in West Virginia, the phrase "bear spray" was brought up 20 times, according to a transcript. "

US Capitol rioters charged in Sicknick case were armed with bear spray but only used pepper spray, prosecutors say
Barely a difference.
 

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Bear spray has less active ingredient than pepper pray. Bear spray sprays a cloud, pepper spray a stream. Bears have more sensitive nose, and don’t need as much active ingredient to be affected.

So, what point are you trying to make here?
 

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You mean to tell me a bunch of idiots taking selfie’s wasn’t a threat to our democracy?
 

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It is wild that after all of this someone would start a thread to defend the Capitol rioters.
 

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Bear spray has less active ingredient than pepper pray. Bear spray sprays a cloud, pepper spray a stream. Bears have more sensitive nose, and don’t need as much active ingredient to be affected.
I never knew this. I have had to carry (but never use) bear spray on backcountry backpacking trips and never knew I was carrying a less potent product. I might carry pepper spray next time. A ridiculous distinction to make about 1/6, but maybe not for may situation?
 

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It is wild that after all of this someone would start a thread to defend the Capitol rioters.
This is a game you play all the time. It matters, the truth matters. Because something or someone is wrong in their actions doesn’t mean you can just make up things they didn’t do and lie about them to make what they did look worse. Defending anyone against lies and supporting the truth is always the right thing to do. This was the constant attack point with Trump “defenders”.
 

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This is a game you play all the time. It matters, the truth matters. Because something or someone is wrong in their actions doesn’t mean you can just make up things they didn’t do and lie about them to make what they did look worse. Defending anyone against lies and supporting the truth is always the right thing to do. This was the constant attack point with Trump “defenders”.
What you say here is true - but bear spray vs pepper spray? Come on.
 

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It's significant enough that even far-left CNN is calling it "a major change" and a "significant difference".

"Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

Prosecutors addressed the
seemingly small but significant difference at a detention hearing for the two men charged in connection with the chemical attack."
Okay this is the equivalent to saying “well they only used an 8” knife as opposed to a 12” knife” A chemical is a chemical. Really a weak effort to discredit the media.
 

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What you say here is true - but bear spray vs pepper spray? Come on.
I won’t pretend to know the difference. But when the fire extinguisher story fell apart (despite being widely reported from CNCs approved list) the pivot was that rioters used bear spray on him and this caused the stroke. So the significance of this being false is that Jan 6 rioters didn’t kill anyone. 4 rioters were killed, including one unarmed woman who was shot and we still don’t know who shot her. Lebron hasn’t told us.

this doesn’t mean the riot was fine. It wasn’t. Even beyond the insurrection(!!!!), politically is was the dumbest move ever, caused a predictable reaction, and gave Dems cover from their year or terror. Nice job guys.
 

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This is a game you play all the time. It matters, the truth matters. Because something or someone is wrong in their actions doesn’t mean you can just make up things they didn’t do and lie about them to make what they did look worse. Defending anyone against lies and supporting the truth is always the right thing to do. This was the constant attack point with Trump “defenders”.
Seditionist 2 showing his true fascist colors once again.
 

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You’re the clueless one my friend. Jan 6 was a disgrace brought on by nothing but Trump supporters. But yet somehow it’s the Dems you talk about.

1000%

While not all Dump voters are seditionists; all seditionists are Dump voters.
 

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The distinction between the two is negligible in this case....and the report was likely an honest mistake since these guys were ALSO carrying bear mace. This is really the new "MEDIA BAD" outrage that righties want to promote?

Holy smokes the righties keep getting more deranged. Just stretching for things to whine about.
 

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Okay this is the equivalent to saying “well they only used an 8” knife as opposed to a 12” knife” A chemical is a chemical. Really a weak effort to discredit the media.
Hopefully this person is not procreating.
 

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Yet another Jan 6th Capital riot fake news story debunked as CNN admits "Bear mace" was never used on Officer Sicknick. No beating Sicknick with a fire extinguisher, no bringing zip-ties to abduct lawmakers, the vast majority of attendees being charged with simply trespassing, and now the DOJ admits their claims of 'Bear mace' being used on Officer Sicknick are also false.

"Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

Prosecutors addressed the seemingly small but significant difference at a detention hearing for the two men charged in connection with the chemical attack. All sides now acknowledge that the defendants, Julian Khater and George Tanios, brought bear repellant to the Capitol and that Khater asked for it just moments before the attack but ended up using pepper spray instead.

The clarification came a week after Washington's chief medical examiner ruled that Sicknick had suffered strokes and died of natural causes a day after the attack. The finding undercut theories that an allergic reaction to the chemical spray may have led to his death.


The narrative was already muddled by prosecutors repeatedly citing the bear spray, unsanctioned speculation from the former US attorney who led the probe, exaggerated statements from law enforcement and inaccurate early press reports about a fire extinguisher hitting Sicknick. "

"CNN and other outlets had reported in February that a leading theory for investigators was that a chemical irritant, possibly bear spray, may have triggered a fatal reaction and killed Sicknick.

Prosecutors also emphasized the bear spray angle.
The Justice Department news release announcing the charges in March said the officers had been hit with an "unknown chemical substance," but also quoted a video of Khater asking Tanios to "give me that bear s--t" shortly before the assault.

At Tanios' detention hearing in West Virginia, the phrase "bear spray" was brought up 20 times, according to a transcript. "

US Capitol rioters charged in Sicknick case were armed with bear spray but only used pepper spray, prosecutors say
OK Mr Vernon.
 

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The distinction between the two is negligible in this case....and the report was likely an honest mistake since these guys were ALSO carrying bear mace. This is really the new "MEDIA BAD" outrage that righties want to promote?

Holy smokes the righties keep getting more deranged. Just stretching for things to whine about.
Pepper spray causes strokes?
 

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Pepper spray causes strokes?

I know this goes against your unwavering need to defend the capitol insurrectionist (your fellow donalds)....but yes.....there is quite a bit of info on how pepper spray can cause life threatening situations:

Tear gas and pepper spray can create serious, even life threatening complications in people who are more vulnerable to the chemicals — particularly those with underlying heart or lung conditions, like asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

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Past research also shows that inhalation of pepper spray can cause a sudden spike in blood pressure, increasing a person’s risk for stroke or heart attack.



Regardless of whether your buddies spraying Sicknick had anything to do with his death....they are still being charged for assault. We know....so unfair.
 
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