Do you wear a mask?

When you go out to places like the grocery store, do you wear a mask?

  • Yes, I think it helps slow the spread

    Votes: 60 42.9%
  • Yes, I'm not sure how much it helps but it's no big deal to wear one

    Votes: 37 26.4%
  • Yes, but only because I'm required to

    Votes: 12 8.6%
  • No, I don't think it helps

    Votes: 14 10.0%
  • No, It's my decision/I'm healthy so not at risk

    Votes: 12 8.6%
  • No, They're uncomfortable/can't use them due to a health condition

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • No, it makes us look weak/I'm not going to live in fear

    Votes: 9 6.4%
  • Other, post below

    Votes: 7 5.0%

  • Total voters
    140

GophersInIowa

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Crickets from our resident amateur epidemiologist GII as it doesn't fit his leftist closeminded narrative. The virus porn people have been so wrong for so long I don't know why they keep giving opinions.
My apologies for not responding within an hour of his post. I should have stopped doing my job to check this out.

It’s pointless to keep trying as my point continues to be ignored. If masks and restrictions don’t work, then why do states that have higher mask wearing and more restrictions have lower hospitalization and death rates since the first wave? This tweet also shows that MN’s hospitalizations, when adjusted for population, is much lower than those other states. Coincidence?
 

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Crickets from our resident amateur epidemiologist GII as it doesn't fit his leftist closeminded narrative. The virus porn people have been so wrong for so long I don't know why they keep giving opinions.

Live free or die...
You know which one I prefer...
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My apologies for not responding within an hour of his post. I should have stopped doing my job to check this out.

It’s pointless to keep trying as my point continues to be ignored. If masks and restrictions don’t work, then why do states that have higher mask wearing and more restrictions have lower hospitalization and death rates since the first wave? This tweet also shows that MN’s hospitalizations, when adjusted for population, is much lower than those other states. Coincidence?

'Since the first wave' is a nice qualifier...Herd immunity and less people susceptible to the disease likely plays a bigger role.

Adjusting for population does nothing for what is being shown here. The trend is down, whether masks or no masks, there is no increase after the mandate is lifted.
 

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'Since the first wave' is a nice qualifier...Herd immunity and less people susceptible to the disease likely plays a bigger role.

Adjusting for population does nothing for what is being shown here. The trend is down, whether masks or no masks, there is no increase after the mandate is lifted.
Then just look at states that weren’t part of the first wave. Why has MN and WI done significantly better than ND, SD, and IA?

We do know that this goes in waves. I think it’s stupid to assume that lifting a mandate or loosening restrictions will immediately increase numbers. The “shape” of the curve is going to be similar no matter what mitigation steps are taken. Continuing to be cautious is to try to be in a better situation when/if another wave hits.

One more time, why does MN and WI have much lower death numbers than SD, ND, and IA if mitigation doesn’t work?
 

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Then just look at states that weren’t part of the first wave. Why has MN and WI done significantly better than ND, SD, and IA?

We do know that this goes in waves. I think it’s stupid to assume that lifting a mandate or loosening restrictions will immediately increase numbers. The “shape” of the curve is going to be similar no matter what mitigation steps are taken. Continuing to be cautious is to try to be in a better situation when/if another wave hits.

One more time, why does MN and WI have much lower death numbers than SD, ND, and IA if mitigation doesn’t work?

I've asked you the same question before. IA and ND have had restrictions, and WI has had significantly less restrictions, yet are doing better than all of their surrounding states. And that's with people constantly crossing the border from the heavily restricted states of MN and IL. How could Wisconsin be doing so well?
 

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I've asked you the same question before. IA and ND have had restrictions, and WI has had significantly less restrictions, yet are doing better than all of their surrounding states. And that's with people constantly crossing the border from the heavily restricted states of MN and IL. How could Wisconsin be doing so well?
MINNESOTA borders all of those very poorly performing states, and has outperformed all of them, all while having the highest concentration of its citizens packed in metro areas. Holy hell you are dense AF.
 

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MINNESOTA borders all of those very poorly performing states, and has outperformed all of them, all while having the highest concentration of its citizens packed in metro areas. Holy hell you are dense AF.
Pssst - WISCONSIN has outperformed Minnesota. Thought you might want to know.
 

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I've asked you the same question before. IA and ND have had restrictions, and WI has had significantly less restrictions, yet are doing better than all of their surrounding states. And that's with people constantly crossing the border from the heavily restricted states of MN and IL. How could Wisconsin be doing so well?
And I’ve responded by saying that isn’t true. Wisconsin hasn’t had statewide restrictions like MN has had but overall they’ve been a lot more like MN than IA and ND. Mask wearing is higher and their largest population areas have had restrictions through most of this. Hudson doesn’t represent the whole state.
 

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If some PhDs publish a peer-reviewed study saying that COVID is spread in restaurants, GWG will argue they used an incorrect degree of freedom when calculating the significance of the correlation in their regression analysis.

If a totally random person on Twitter writes "derp California has masks and yet people died derp" GWG will post it in this thread
 

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And I’ve responded by saying that isn’t true. Wisconsin hasn’t had statewide restrictions like MN has had but overall they’ve been a lot more like MN than IA and ND. Mask wearing is higher and their largest population areas have had restrictions through most of this. Hudson doesn’t represent the whole state.

They've been far more like SD than they have MN.
 

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Remember this morning when you were all about seasonality? I'm beginning to think you only believe in that when it suits you

I am all about seasonality, it goes hand and hand with masks not accomplishing anything. As the data continues to show.
 

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I live in Wisconsin. You’re way off, especially when it comes to mask wearing.
I've been to Wisconsin and SD many times since last summer. Mask wearing is common in stores in both places, just like it is in MN. Even in Sioux Falls when they didn't have a mask mandate.

But I also frequent bars/restaurants in both states. Packed bars, even live music, no masks in those places. Wisconsin has had far more people crossing its borders than SD. Yet the death rate is still significantly different with Wisconsin being lower than everyone.
 

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I've been to Wisconsin and SD many times since last summer. Mask wearing is common in stores in both places, just like it is in MN. Even in Sioux Falls when they didn't have a mask mandate.

But I also frequent bars/restaurants in both states. Packed bars, even live music, no masks in those places. Wisconsin has had far more people crossing its borders than SD. Yet the death rate is still significantly different with Wisconsin being lower than everyone.
Well then you’d definitely know more than people that actually live there.
 

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I know, living your life, it's a terrible thing. Look, if you have not been vaccinated and/or you have serious concerns about contracting the virus, than you should most definitely take proper precautions.

Is it your contention that there is somehow now a "no mask" mandate in Texas and other places? People can continue to wear masks as long as they wish, this has always been the case. Nobody is preventing ANYONE from wearing masks.

What is complicated about this?
 

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I know, living your life, it's a terrible thing. Look, if you have not been vaccinated and/or you have serious concerns about contracting the virus, than you should most definitely take proper precautions.

Is it your contention that there is somehow now a "no mask" mandate in Texas and other places? People can continue to wear masks as long as they wish, this has always been the case. Nobody is preventing ANYONE from wearing masks.

What is complicated about this?

Just shows how many people are selfish pos.

Masks are the least intrusive possible action.
 

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According to RNS’s report, white evangelicals are the least likely to “consider the health effects on their community when making decisions to be vaccinated,” with only 48% responding to Pew that they put this into “a lot” of consideration.


White evangelicals are the most selfish or the most ignorant. Isn't that interesting.
 
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