Corona not spreading on surfaces

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I don't think this is really big news. It was always thought that person to person contact was the main way it's being spread.
 

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The actual language on the CDC page is far more ambiguous than implied by the thread title (no surprise).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

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COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads. It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads.
  • From touching surfaces or objects. It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.
  • From animals to people. At this time, the risk of COVID-19 spreading from animals to people is considered to be low. Learn about COVID-19 and pets and other animals.
  • From people to animals. It appears that the virus that causes COVID-19 can spread from people to animals in some situations. CDC is aware of a small number of pets worldwide, including cats and dogs, reported to be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, mostly after close contact with people with COVID-19. Learn what you should do if you have pets.
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(underscore emphasis is mine)
 

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Wrong. Great lengths have been taken to clean and disinfect surfaces since this started. Much of the disinfecting work was recommended by the cdc and mdh
Nothing in the articles says you can't spread it from touching surfaces. It's just saying that it's probably spreading much more by person to person contact. Did either of you actually read the article?

But the CDC’s shift in guidance doesn’t mean you should stop being cautious with those things, Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, tells Yahoo Life. “If I had to pick the things to pick an emphasis on to reduce the spread of COVID-19, it would still be social distancing, wearing masks, and practicing good hand hygiene,” he says. Schaffner compares the spread of COVID-19 to roadways. “Person-to-person contact is a highway, and the inanimate environment is a byway. Touching infected surfaces are little paths, but they don’t carry the big viral traffic,” he says.

Watkins agrees. “It might be possible to become infected after touching a surface that has the virus, then touching one's face,” he says. “That is why handwashing and avoiding touching one's face are important. However, this isn't the main way the virus is spread.”
 

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Nothing in the articles says you can't spread it from touching surfaces. It's just saying that it's probably spreading much more by person to person contact. Did either of you actually read the article?
The headline says “does not spread easily”.
Exactly opposite of what the cdc and mdh told the masses. Why are you being obtuse?
Take Strzoker to reading comp. With yourself.
 

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The headline says “does not spread easily”.
Exactly opposite of what the cdc and mdh told the masses. Why are you being obtuse?
Take Strzoker to reading comp. With yourself.
What I'm saying is this is wrong from what I've seen. I don't think they ever said it can easily spread from surfaces. They just said it could spread that way. You're making it seem like they did a complete 180 here. This is from April 15th:

• You can become infected by coming into close contact (about 6 feet or two arm lengths) with a person who has COVID-19. COVID-19 is primarily spread from person to person.
• You can become infected from respiratory droplets when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.
• You may also be able to get it by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it, and then by touching your mouth, nose, or eyes.
 

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What I'm saying is this is wrong from what I've seen. I don't think they ever said it can easily spread from surfaces. They just said it could spread that way. You're making it seem like they did a complete 180 here. This is from April 15th:



Huh. Why, then, was there a run on Clorox wipes and the like from the very beginning? Run on 25 L and 42 L from 3m?
 

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Ok, that article is basically what we were told.

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Huh. Why, then, was there a run on Clorox wipes and the like from the very beginning? Run on 25 L and 42 L from 3m?
Disinfectant boli and bleach shots were not yet widely available. And the only kind of cloroquine readily obtainable was via fish tank cleaner. So, better safe than sorry.
 

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The headline says “does not spread easily”.
Exactly opposite of what the cdc and mdh told the masses. Why are you being obtuse?
Take Strzoker to reading comp. With yourself.
LOL! The title of the thread is "corona not spreading on surfaces" with the message....the way we were told.

Forget the comprehension part, brokenbrain. You need to start with with something even more basic!
 

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Huh. Why, then, was there a run on Clorox wipes and the like from the very beginning? Run on 25 L and 42 L from 3m?
Because it’s was thought it could spread from surfaces? I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand.
 

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Because it’s was thought it could spread from surfaces? I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand.
It is easy to understand if you believe this has been overblown the whole time, and any new advice confirming that supports your belief. Wiping common surfaces isn’t a radical idea, with any bug going around it’s easy and common sense. If this virus has encouraged people to wash their hands after pooping in restaurant toilets, it has done one good thing. Sanitation is good.
 

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The easiest way to prevent the spread of illness is washing your hands and not touching your face and the covering up of your cough or sneeze.
 

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Huh. Why, then, was there a run on Clorox wipes and the like from the very beginning? Run on 25 L and 42 L from 3m?
Clorex Exs have infiltered the CDC - this ain't the deep state, this is some deeper state shite :eek:.

Or more likely they were doing the best they could at the time with the information they had at this time -

Amazing how many smart Monday Morning QBs on here -

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Clorex Exs have infiltered the CDC - this ain't the deep state, this is some deeper state shite :eek:.

Or more likely they were doing the best they could at the time with the information they had at this time -

Amazing how many smart Monday Morning QBs on here -

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cdc changes their protocols frequently. Thats the point.
 

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cdc changes their protocols frequently. Thats the point.
Yup, I understood your point; I was playfully mocking it. They certainly haven't' been error free with the biggest goof on their part IMO, was turning down the German test that was offered to them by WHO, and insisting on creating their own test and then when they initially rolled it out it didn't work.

My point was they their guidance is based on the best available information they had at the time and that as they learn more it will change - for things like this, I'd rather have them be safe vs. sorry.

On their website a ~early Aprilish I think, it stated to the effect, that the chance of transmission via fomite was incredibly low and that you basically didn't have to worry about wiping down your grocery purchases as they would basically be safe, same for mail etc...I know this because I went on the website to check after viewing the goofball from Canada's youtube video on how to wipe down your groceries.

Whoever is elected in November needs to revamp the whole system as this may not be the last one of these we have the pleasure of experiencing.
 

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Yup, I understood your point; I was playfully mocking it. They certainly haven't' been error free with the biggest goof on their part IMO, was turning down the German test that was offered to them by WHO, and insisting on creating their own test and then when they initially rolled it out it didn't work.

My point was they their guidance is based on the best available information they had at the time and that as they learn more it will change - for things like this, I'd rather have them be safe vs. sorry.

On their website a ~early Aprilish I think, it stated to the effect, that the chance of transmission via fomite was incredibly low and that you basically didn't have to worry about wiping down your grocery purchases as they would basically be safe, same for mail etc...I know this because I went on the website to check after viewing the goofball from Canada's youtube video on how to wipe down your groceries.

Whoever is elected in November needs to revamp the whole system as this may not be the last one of these we have the pleasure of experiencing.
Mock away. As someone who manages facilities, my take is this is no mocking matter. The same adoration of front line workers should extend, with great recognition, to custodians and other facilities maintenance staff that allow the entire process to work. Forgotten folks, once again. The lowest paid are, literally, at THE battle line.
 

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Mock away. As someone who manages facilities, my take is this is no mocking matter. The same adoration of front line workers should extend, with great recognition, to custodians and other facilities maintenance staff that allow the entire process to work. Forgotten folks, once again. The lowest paid are, literally, at THE battle line.
First off you never mentioned anything regarding your job or employees as part of your previous posts etc...; obviously I wasn't mocking them - as someone who live in NYC, has a compromised immune system (enlarged spleen, so I have half of the white blood cell count of someone with a healthy one) and has friends who have gotten sick - I personally have plenty of skin in the game. Additionally, one of my work study jobs in college was as a janitor cleaning up after sporting events. I've learned that laughter can be the best medicine (i.e. not to take myself too seriously) and try not to move the goalposts when making a point. Don't worry, I won't ever respond to one of your posts again. Have a great day, unless you've made other plans :)!
 

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It went from it may be spread on surfaces to it doesn't spread very easily on surfaces.

Wow, completely changed.
Right - and the direction was to disinfect, disinfect, disinfect all surfaces, buttons door handles, etc etc etc.

Now, "it doesn't spread easily". Marked change.
 

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First off you never mentioned anything regarding your job or employees as part of your previous posts etc...; obviously I wasn't mocking them - as someone who live in NYC, has a compromised immune system (enlarged spleen, so I have half of the white blood cell count of someone with a healthy one) and has friends who have gotten sick - I personally have plenty of skin in the game. Additionally, one of my work study jobs in college was as a janitor cleaning up after sporting events. I've learned that laughter can be the best medicine (i.e. not to take myself too seriously) and try not to move the goalposts when making a point. Don't worry, I won't ever respond to one of your posts again. Have a great day, unless you've made other plans :)!
Ah yes, a NYC resident. I get it now. And thank you for not responding in the future.
 

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Goldteam boxed yet again.

He must work at the Container Store. Less is his supervisor.
I don't know if he did it on purpose or it was an accident. I was just pointing out what was presented.
I'm not taking a political side, I just hope the information is true and it really is less likely to spread or catch through touching surfaces.
 
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