Well said. This season proved the two can co-exist and both get a ton of attention in this market.I have always said the Gophers shouldn't even try to compete with the Vikings. The Vikings have a massive fan base and that isn't going to change no matter how many championships the Gophers win.
But, it isn't required. There is room for both. The Gophers built up a lot of believers and created a lot of fans this season. There is no reason why that can't continue. The Gophers have had TCF Bank Stadium sold out with a full load of season ticket holders in the past (with no 'hit' to the Vikings fan base), and they can do it again - all regardless of how popular the Vikings are.
I have also said the Gophers shouldn't market themselves as a competitor of the Vikings. The Gophers should build their gameday to be different than the Vikings to offer an alternative. Some of these differences are built in: It is the college game, college rules, student sections, marching bands, etc. etc. But, there is room to push the city to expand tailgating opportunities and with both Stadium Village and Dinkytown close by: there can be a vibrant game day bar and tailgating scene within easy walking distance of the stadium. This is something the Vikings can't offer. Play up to the strengths. If the intent is to simply offer "NFL-Jr." the Gophers won't make much headway, in my opinion.
Wow, who would have thought according to Wiki the Vikings would have the seventh highest winning percentage in all of pro football. They are historicially a playoff team who hasn't been able to get over the hump and are no where near the bottom third of the NFL.The NFL would never allow it. With their economic power and minutia control, they have the average Viking fan thinking that they are one of the most successful franchises in NFL history. Instead, they are in a group that consists of: Arizona, Detroit, Atlanta, Carolina, the Chargers, Cincinnati, Cleveland II, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Houston II. Quite a pool of success, eh?
That's the one I have! Got it for the family as a group Christmas gift a number of years ago; next thing I know, my daughter had absconded with it for her campus housing at the U. She's back for now, as is it.Yeah kinda. It's gold on one side and maroon on the other. Going from memory it has Goldy and the word Minnesota on it. The way it was dyed has one side reversed and one side normal. Fleece I think is the fabric. Goldy is running with that mean grin. I also have a plastic juice pitcher that's gold with the same maroon mean Goldy running on it.
I think a better way to say it is there are a lot of teams in this town so it is easy to jump from the Wolves to the Wild to the Gophers to the Twins to the Vikings, etc.This town likes to cheer for winning teams. There are a LOT of soft bandwagon type fans who kind of follow teams until they do really well.
If the Vikings turn into the Detroit Lions and spend 20 years making the playoffs once or twice, finish last every year, have constant injury issues, off the field problems, etc. while the gophers sustain multiple years of winning or contending for the west...sure, gophers could become more popular.
Cool. I'm always on the lookout for this Goldy-type stuff. This was a Holz-era Goldy that only lasted one year. Since Coach is into restoring stuff, maybe he should restore this version for our honored mascot?That's the one I have! Got it for the family as a group Christmas gift a number of years ago; next thing I know, my daughter had absconded with it for her campus housing at the U. She's back for now, as is it.
Detroit manages the Lions and univ of Michigan just fine - I lived there for many years and both have full support - you can even throw Michigan state into that mix - granted the lions have been generationally bad but their fan base is really passionate and loyalYes - it happened this year briefly. I'm a 23 year Viking season ticket holder and I have gravitated towards the Gophers more and more these last few years....College football is addicting - if the Gophers start winning at a high level consistently it will be a Gophers Town
Same as Salzie I am a much bigger College and Gopher football fan now than growing up when the NFL was king.I used to primarily Vikings fan with gophers secondary, but have switched. I now prefer college football as a whole over NFL, but don't see gophers being number one in this market
Only delusional Vikings fans think they are close to the Super Bowl. They are as close to the Super Bowl as the Browns are with the current roster construction and they have a lousy quarterback with a weak offensive line and an old defense. It has been 43 year since the Vikings last played in a Sujper Bowl and many still act like it was just yesterday. Only 1998 and 2009 were they ever really close and both season's they choked it away with some of the best players I have seen on the VIkings in my lifetime.I always love that one.
The NFL is controlling our thoughts, eh?The NFL would never allow it. With their economic power and minutia control, they have the average Viking fan thinking that they are one of the most successful franchises in NFL history. Instead, they are in a group that consists of: Arizona, Detroit, Atlanta, Carolina, the Chargers, Cincinnati, Cleveland II, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Houston II. Quite a pool of success, eh?
Win and the support will be there. Hell, UW and Green bay sell 80,000 seats for games. UW had a ton of games with less than 50,000 pre Alvarez.I think this coming season the Gophers have the potential to become much more popular than they have been in a long time. Here's a half-dozen reasons:
There's a lot more -- the tradition, game day tailgating, marching bands, etc. The Vikings certainly will have a strong following, but Minnesota's large enough to support both teams really well.
- Pretty much no one is interested in NFL preseason games, especially the third and fourth games where starters don't play. During those last two weeks of preseason ball, the Gophers play Iowa and BYU. There will be by far more interest in the Gopher games, and if they win, that bandwagon will continue during the season. An undefeated Gopher team that just won the Pig and follows it up by beating BYU is going to carry a lot of fan momentum into the rest of the season.
- The Gopher's won their last game of the season with an exiting game, the Viking lost with a game that was pretty awful to watch.
- The NFL keeps making decisions that alienate a lot of fans (e.g., kneeling before games) -- fans tune out as a result of that.
- There's a growing sentiment that NFL players (not all, but enough to make a difference) are "jerks" in some fashion versus role models. High paid "jerks" make fans tune out. The Gophers for now anyways have a nice "we're role models" image going for them. I think that plays well to Minnesota's fan base.
- The NFL rules are causing fans to lose interest in the game, such as you basically can't tackle the quarterback anymore, all the lengthy reviews of pass interference after plays, etc. In the NFL it seems the refs have a much larger impact on who ends up winning.
- People are coming round to buying into PJ. Reusse's negative view is getting shot down, and people are starting to Row.
Wolves are dead.I think a better way to say it is there are a lot of teams in this town so it is easy to jump from the Wolves to the Wild to the Gophers to the Twins to the Vikings, etc.
Most towns don't have the high level (professional and major college sports) in one town like we do. It is bandwagon, but few casual fans will follow teams if they are not winning.
I think to answer the original question... Minnesota football can actually make a footprint a cement themselves in the top 2. Me personally, on Saturday's I am all Gophers and on Sunday's I am all Vikings. Monday through Friday I am probably more of a fan of whatever team is playing better. That is probably the best case scenario.
No Super Bowl wins. That is the common factor. Only 12 teams have not. 54 years, tied for last. IMO that is failure.Wow, who would have thought according to Wiki the Vikings would have the seventh highest winning percentage in all of pro football. They are historicially a playoff team who hasn't been able to get over the hump and are no where near the bottom third of the NFL.