I think back to a guy I saw at the state fair a couple years ago. He was wearing a Trump shirt that said “Fuck your feelings.” There’s no reasoning with these people, nor is there any need to play nice. Fuck ‘em.
What goes around, comes around.I think back to a guy I saw at the state fair a couple years ago. He was wearing a Trump shirt that said “Fuck your feelings.” There’s no reasoning with these people, nor is there any need to play nice. Fuck ‘em.
She nailed it. What would "unity" look like?Thread
I happened to stumble across this thread today and see that I had missed your response. I'm sorry but you can't blame an entire group of people for a few flippant comments. I, certainly, have never lumped you or all 45 supporters into one category in any way. The behavior of many people who have self described themselves as ardent supporters of 45 has been deplorable. I don't think that you can deny that last week's actions strongly support that.You completely missed the mark here. The thread was a general one about the left calling people on the right every filthy name in the book for the last 4 years and now we should all forget that.
A BIG majority of the lefties on this board were/are guilty of that. A LOT of lefties in Congress have been guilty of this as well; check out Maxine Walters recent attack and disgusting verbal barrage on any black that voted for Trump. Pathetic.
You are wrong. Wrong when you say that nobody ever said that every Trump supporter was one of those despicable types. It's been said repeatedly, on CNN, on this board, all across social media.
You're right about considering the source for the most part; the opinion of the children on the board that a lot of us have on Ignore isn't important. I agree with your point there.
Like I said, I have no problem giving Biden the benefit of the doubt, although his 47-year history doesn't exactly offer us much reason for optimism. When compared to just about any other Democratic politician, Biden would be considered a pathetic option by even the most ardent Democrat. I have an open mind, and I hope he can stand up to the lunatic part of the party and govern for the majority of the population. The problem is, nobody in the country (other than Trump) seems to have the stomach or balls to stand up to the extremely small but LOUD and vocal minority that is trying to drive public opinion right now. It's sad that such a small fringe portion is being allowed to threaten, coerce and beat otherwise good reasonable people into submission. It needs to stop, and we should all be united on that.
Right wing talk radio and fox news primarily.Our mass media outlets have successfully divided this nation so that people no longer see unity.
I call bullsh!t on that comment. We have Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC all playing the game. They all figured out that arguing makes them more money. Instead of having factual reporters they have interpretive reporters who interpret the facts for you and tell you what to think. Like children listening to the pied piper people have been lead to an us vs them mindset.Right wing talk radio and fox news primarily.
How ironic that it took a violent, lawless insurrection to get the Republicans to call for "unity".I call bullsh!t on that comment. We have Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC all playing the game. They all figured out that arguing makes them more money. Instead of having factual reporters they have interpretive reporters who interpret the facts for you and tell you what to think. Like children listening to the pied piper people have been lead to an us vs them mindset.
Are they calling for unity or just distancing themselves from Trump?How ironic that it took a violent, lawless insurrection to get the Republicans to call for "unity".
They're attempting to cover their own asses in a cowardly manner.Are they calling for unity or just distancing themselves from Trump?
They want (imm)unity.Are they calling for unity or just distancing themselves from Trump?
Wow, way to go extremes over a shirt. You must be a pleasant individual.I think back to a guy I saw at the state fair a couple years ago. He was wearing a Trump shirt that said “Fuck your feelings.” There’s no reasoning with these people, nor is there any need to play nice. Fuck ‘em.
How did you feel about the "Camp Auschwitz" shirts?Wow, way to go extremes over a shirt. You must be a pleasant individual.
So, everyone except who you watch? Got it!I call bullsh!t on that comment. We have Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC all playing the game.
FOX has become too liberal for the diehard wing nuts.So, everyone except who you watch? Got it!
I admit MSNBC is biased and CNN too to a degree but they didn't start out that way. Fox News Channel (not Fox Network News) was the first cable network news channel to blatantly tailor all of its messaging to please a partisan audience. Eventually one or more networks would fill in the gap on the other side. What goes around comes around. Do you finally understand?
You can't corner the market on bullshit forever. Eventually, the other side will become fiercely and unrelentingly partisan and peddle a narrow message to cater to a particular audience. Fox News Channel started the process to where we are today. If they don't change their ways, neither will the others.
Not really, mainstream media is nothing like fox or rightwing radio.I call bullsh!t on that comment. We have Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC all playing the game. They all figured out that arguing makes them more money. Instead of having factual reporters they have interpretive reporters who interpret the facts for you and tell you what to think. Like children listening to the pied piper people have been lead to an us vs them mindset.
Fuck your feelings.Wow, way to go extremes over a shirt. You must be a pleasant individual.
Trailblazers. They saw the future.So, everyone except who you watch? Got it!
I admit MSNBC is biased and CNN too to a degree but they didn't start out that way. Fox News Channel (not Fox Network News) was the first cable network news channel to blatantly tailor all of its messaging to please a partisan audience. Eventually one or more networks would fill in the gap on the other side. What goes around comes around. Do you finally understand?
You can't corner the market on bullshit forever. Eventually, the other side will become fiercely and unrelentingly partisan and peddle a narrow message to cater to a particular audience. Fox News Channel started the process to where we are today. If they don't change their ways, neither will the others.
Hey look. A sane politician.Thread
They can have unity when they either leave the Republican party or successfully kick the Trump cult out of the Republican party. Until then, they're complicit.Republicans don't want unity or to make amends, they want to be exonerated of their crimes without penalty or onus of reconciliation. That's not how healing works.
or the "6 million were not enough" shirts.How did you feel about the "Camp Auschwitz" shirts?
I know, I know... it's "time to heal" now.
No doubt Fox lead the way. I don't disagree. My point is that they all recognized it was a great way to increase viewership and get rich.So, everyone except who you watch? Got it!
I admit MSNBC is biased and CNN too to a degree but they didn't start out that way. Fox News Channel (not Fox Network News) was the first cable network news channel to blatantly tailor all of its messaging to please a partisan audience. Eventually one or more networks would fill in the gap on the other side. What goes around comes around. Do you finally understand?
You can't corner the market on bullshit forever. Eventually, the other side will become fiercely and unrelentingly partisan and peddle a narrow message to cater to a particular audience. Fox News Channel started the process to where we are today. If they don't change their ways, neither will the others.
So... unbiased reporting no longer exists, anywhere?No doubt Fox lead the way. I don't disagree. My point is that they all recognized it was a great way to increase viewership and get rich.
You jumped the shark.So... unbiased reporting no longer exists, anywhere?
I reject that assumption. With just a little effort, some common sense, and a modicum of education, a reasonable person can usually (not always) sort through the noise, and ascertain what is and what is not reliably news, vs. spin and propaganda.
Corroboration. Multiple, reliable sources. Weighing of hard evidence.
Also, it's important to understand the difference between hard reporting and editorial (opinion) content. Most reliable news sources label editorial/opinion content as such.
"Interpretive reporting"?You jumped the shark.
Mainstream media uses interpretive reporting. Just watch the reporting. They are constantly interpreting events.
More information than anyone likely cares to get into but here's a Poynter article about the media bias charts that you see online. As you might imagine, there is more to the story, but at least you can see the basic philosophy behind the two most popular charts.So... unbiased reporting no longer exists, anywhere?
I reject that assumption. With just a little effort, some common sense, and a modicum of education, a reasonable person can usually (not always) sort through the noise, and ascertain what is and what is not reliably news, vs. spin and propaganda.
Corroboration. Multiple, reliable sources. Weighing of hard evidence.
Also, it's important to understand the difference between hard reporting and editorial (opinion) content. Most reliable news sources label editorial/opinion content as such.
Does the person or persons who design the criteria for the charts have a bias?More information than anyone likely cares to get into but here's a Poynter article about the media bias charts that you see online. As you might imagine, there is more to the story, but at least you can see the basic philosophy behind the two most popular charts.
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/media-literacy/2020/should-you-trust-media-bias-charts/
That's pretty much the point... everyone has a bias of some sort but they try different methodologies to buffer that with a set of reviewers with diverse opinions. It seems like they could easily devise a computer program that could analyze these media sources to determine how often they use certain words or phrases.Does the person or persons who design the criteria for the charts have a bias?