Brilliant clip from Jon Stewart last night on Fox News and Mitt Romney

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/...t-mountain-fox-news-over-secret-romney-video/

The embedded video is about half-way down. One of the most satisfying things I have ever watched.

"The biggest problem with this bull*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# is they act that their *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# don’t stink. If they have success, they built it, if they failed, the government ruined it for them. If they get a break, they deserve it. If you get a break, it’s a handout and an entitlement. It’s a baffling, willfully blind cognitive dissonance."

EDIT: For some reason they clipped off the second half of the 10min segment. View it here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/w...n-bulls--t-mountain---the-entitlement-society
 

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/...t-mountain-fox-news-over-secret-romney-video/

The embedded video is about half-way down. One of the most satisfying things I have ever watched.

"The biggest problem with this bull*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# is they act that their *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# don’t stink. If they have success, they built it, if they failed, the government ruined it for them. If they get a break, they deserve it. If you get a break, it’s a handout and an entitlement. It’s a baffling, willfully blind cognitive dissonance."

EDIT: For some reason they clipped off the second half of the 10min segment. View it here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/w...n-bulls--t-mountain---the-entitlement-society
Actually that's the biggest problem with Stewart. And no - I didn't watch the 10 minute video of that pompous putz.
 

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Actually that's the biggest problem with Stewart. And no - I didn't watch the 10 minute video of that pompous putz.
Hits too close too home on a consistent basis?
 

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He is right to a large extent. The problem with Stewart is that he doesn't see his own hypocrisy, and he doesn't see the ultimate solution.
 

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Hits too close too home on a consistent basis?
No. He actually bends the truth way too regularly and whenever that's an issue he calls himself a comedian. The problem is that people like you consider him to be serious commentary. Is there a grain of truth in what he says? Of course! There's a grain of truth in every propagandist's message and that's why it sells. Just enough truth to deceive. The fact that Maher and Stewart actually compose the leadership on the left is a pretty sad commentary on the status of your viewpoint.
 

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The fact that Maher and Stewart actually compose the leadership on the left is a pretty sad commentary on the status of your viewpoint.
Yeah, because I've cited Bill Maher repeatedly, right? Er, no, I haven't. Bill Maher is a jacka$$ and his story has grown tireseome. His "New Rules" are funny and that's about it.

Dissonance.
 

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No. He actually bends the truth way too regularly and whenever that's an issue he calls himself a comedian. The problem is that people like you consider him to be serious commentary. Is there a grain of truth in what he says? Of course! There's a grain of truth in every propagandist's message and that's why it sells. Just enough truth to deceive. The fact that Maher and Stewart actually compose the leadership on the left is a pretty sad commentary on the status of your viewpoint.
I would agree with you to this extent: the neo-Nazis on Fox News and all the right-wing media are more reliable sources of information because they don't bend the truth, even in the slightest.
 

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I would agree with you to this extent: the neo-Nazis on Fox News and all the right-wing media are more reliable sources of information because they don't bend the truth, even in the slightest.
In the last year, I have started to watch some Fox news, prior I had never watched. There are definite hacks, Hannity, the morning crew with that gretchen carlson, and some Greg guy that tries to do funny riffs that fall flat. But there are definitely parts that are absolutely fair reporting. Bret Baier and Juan Williams and Krauthammer do a great job. I dont' think O Reilly is bad at all, and he even has Stewart on. Most of Fox is simply non socialist reporting. They don't start from the perspective that a welfare state is a moral good, and work outward from there. They don't start that government is the answer to our problems. All the networks, and CNN and MSNBC, start from that point. W Bush is a right winger to them. To those of us outside the left right bogus scale, W is a progressive.
I can almost guarantee that those that rip on Fox have only seen the snippets put up by stewart or on huff post. That was my sole perspective as well. Until I actually watched it.
 

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I can almost guarantee that those that rip on Fox have only seen the snippets put up by stewart or on huff post. That was my sole perspective as well. Until I actually watched it.
Wrong again, Clesty. Not everyone operates in your assumption wagon.
 

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I hedged with almost. Which shows do you regularly watch?
I dabble with most of the nighttime shows. O'Reilly is actually watchable. He and Jon Stewart have similarities. They both know what they are doing and it works. Hannity is a complete moron that sets back the R cause with every show. He may be the most rude interviewer I've ever seen/heard. You should listen to the garbage he has on the radio. Beck was an even worse partisan liar, but they had the (business) sense to boot him.

That morning show is amateur hour.
 

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Actually that's the biggest problem with Stewart. And no - I didn't watch the 10 minute video of that pompous putz.
You really should, beej. It would be like looking in the mirror. I thought of you the whole time. It was brilliant and spot on. He nailed it.
 

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I dabble with most of the nighttime shows. O'Reilly is actually watchable. He and Jon Stewart have similarities. They both know what they are doing and it works. Hannity is a complete moron that sets back the R cause with every show. He may be the most rude interviewer I've ever seen/heard. You should listen to the garbage he has on the radio. Beck was an even worse partisan liar, but they had the (business) sense to boot him.

That morning show is amateur hour.
So you totally agree with me. Hannity is not nearly as rude as ODonnell. Not even close. The partisan stuff on fox is not hidden. But they also have some of the best personalities in all of news. there is no one on the major networks as good as Krauthammer. Brit Hume is really good and I think fair. Chris Wallace is a major personality and he is left leaning. It is simply not as biased as made out to be.
 

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So you totally agree with me. Hannity is not nearly as rude as ODonnell. Not even close. The partisan stuff on fox is not hidden. But they also have some of the best personalities in all of news. there is no one on the major networks as good as Krauthammer. Brit Hume is really good and I think fair. Chris Wallace is a major personality and he is left leaning. It is simply not as biased as made out to be.
Krauthammer is brilliant but he has a bias. You can't doubt that.
 

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You really should, beej. It would be like looking in the mirror. I thought of you the whole time. It was brilliant and spot on. He nailed it.
Lenin really loved Karl Marx.....
 

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I dabble with most of the nighttime shows. O'Reilly is actually watchable. He and Jon Stewart have similarities. They both know what they are doing and it works. Hannity is a complete moron that sets back the R cause with every show. He may be the most rude interviewer I've ever seen/heard. You should listen to the garbage he has on the radio. Beck was an even worse partisan liar, but they had the (business) sense to boot him.

That morning show is amateur hour.
Hannity is very hard to watch. He interrupts constantly and you can't hear what the other side is saying. I always think it's smart to let liberals talk because the ideas are not that good.
 

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Hannity is very hard to watch. He interrupts constantly and you can't hear what the other side is saying. I always think it's smart to let liberals talk because the ideas are not that good.
I think if you need to interrupt to "win" an argument, you're either not very bright or your argument sucks.
 

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Krauthammer is brilliant but he has a bias. You can't doubt that.
all people have a bias. Krauthammer is the best political analyst there is. I also like David Gergen. The point isn't that we should try to find unbiased people. They don't exist. The point is that EVERYONE, or nearly everyone, a very solid plurality, that works for the MSM, has the same perspective. That's why it's biased. Fox has both sides, and then they have very biased one sided segments as well, as I detailed.
 

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Lenin really loved Karl Marx.....
Really, beej. Give it a watch. And then come down off of Bulls*t Mountain. It would change your life, for the better.
 
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