America doing well under Trump

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The economic optimism and energy occurring under Trump never happened under Obama. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortn...ericans-credit-for-improving-economy-n2482637

68% in this poll say that Trump is largely responsible for our growing economy

Face it- at the heart of Obama was socialism and globalism, not America.
Globalism is the future. Accept it and get out ahead of it or be left behind.

I already said Trump is responsible for our current growing economy, what's your point? He'll also own the down turn that is coming very soon.
 

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You better hope that the crash holds out for another 6-7 months.
There could be a crash at any time- no doubt about it. Trump inherited a disaster, a volcano ready to erupt without notice. Most all of the governments from the US on down have been run irresponsibly and are in severe debt. Obama most recently put us another 10 trillion in debt and put us in a nightmarish budgeting situation going forward. Social welfare programs have to be cut back substantially. We have to expect more from the half of our population that is putting nothing into the pot.
 

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There could be a crash at any time- no doubt about it. Trump inherited a disaster, a volcano ready to erupt without notice. Most all of the governments from the US on down have been run irresponsibly and are in severe debt. Obama most recently put us another 10 trillion in debt and put us in a nightmarish budgeting situation going forward. Social welfare programs have to be cut back substantially. We have to expect more from the half of our population that is putting nothing into the pot.
Obama steadily improved the economy year after year and left it in very good shape. Trump attached a ticking timebomb to it. The impending disaster is on him for the lousy policy choices.
 

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There could be a crash at any time- no doubt about it. Trump inherited a disaster, a volcano ready to erupt without notice. Most all of the governments from the US on down have been run irresponsibly and are in severe debt. Obama most recently put us another 10 trillion in debt and put us in a nightmarish budgeting situation going forward. Social welfare programs have to be cut back substantially. We have to expect more from the half of our population that is putting nothing into the pot.
How is Trump doin on debt? Obama significantly improved our deficits, how's that looking under your home boy?
 

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Obama steadily improved the economy year after year and left it in very good shape. Trump attached a ticking timebomb to it. The impending disaster is on him for the lousy policy choices.
Let's say you knew a fella that 'steadily' remodeled his home over a period of several years putting it all on second mortgages or credit cards or borrowing from his friends like you....and then you found out that his job didn't pay enough to even pay the base mortgage? In addition this friend of yours made no plans to get a better job to deal with it -instead he spent much of his time shopping for new goodies. What do you think of this friend?
 

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Let's say you knew a fella that 'steadily' remodeled his home over a period of several years putting it all on second mortgages or credit cards or borrowing from his friends like you....and then you found out that his job didn't pay enough to even pay the base mortgage? In addition this friend of yours made no plans to get a better job to deal with it -instead he spent much of his time shopping for new goodies. What do you think of this friend?
And Trump's tax cuts with NO matching cuts to spending are really great? Give it a rest, jester.
 

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How is Trump doin on debt? Obama significantly improved our deficits, how's that looking under your home boy?
It will take time for Trump to turn the mess around. He has revenues coming in at a record pace. Now he needs to get congress to put a tourniquet on spending- and that's on Rs and Ds. What Trump has done for the economy is fantastic. I know it because I am in business, many of my friends are as well, and I see the incentives working. I can see this is difficult for you to understand. Obama inherited a mess and his early response was to blow about 3 trillion in the first couple of years. A trained seal could have lowered deficits from that level. Unfortunately a trained seal might have done better as Obama's recovery was the worst in the history of recession recoveries.
 

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It will take time for Trump to turn the mess around. He has revenues coming in at a record pace. Now he needs to get congress to put a tourniquet on spending- and that's on Rs and Ds. What Trump has done for the economy is fantastic. I know it because I am in business, many of my friends are as well, and I see the incentives working. I can see this is difficult for you to understand. Obama inherited a mess and his early response was to blow about 3 trillion in the first couple of years. A trained seal could have lowered deficits from that level. Unfortunately a trained seal might have done better as Obama's recovery was the worst in the history of recession recoveries.
Approaching the longest expansion in history and Obama is the worst! Can you ever post anything without going yabut obama? Trump is adding debt at record pace and you ignore it, hypocrite.
 

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It will take time for Trump to turn the mess around. He has revenues coming in at a record pace. Now he needs to get congress to put a tourniquet on spending- and that's on Rs and Ds. What Trump has done for the economy is fantastic. I know it because I am in business, many of my friends are as well, and I see the incentives working. I can see this is difficult for you to understand. Obama inherited a mess and his early response was to blow about 3 trillion in the first couple of years. A trained seal could have lowered deficits from that level. Unfortunately a trained seal might have done better as Obama's recovery was the worst in the history of recession recoveries.
If you don't mind my asking, what is your business. I am also in business btw.
 

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It will take time for Trump to turn the mess around. He has revenues coming in at a record pace. Now he needs to get congress to put a tourniquet on spending- and that's on Rs and Ds. What Trump has done for the economy is fantastic. I know it because I am in business, many of my friends are as well, and I see the incentives working. I can see this is difficult for you to understand. Obama inherited a mess and his early response was to blow about 3 trillion in the first couple of years. A trained seal could have lowered deficits from that level. Unfortunately a trained seal might have done better as Obama's recovery was the worst in the history of recession recoveries.
You're brain dead and a buffoon.
 

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Spending is an has been out of control for a long time. Discretionary spending is too much and entitlement spending is way too much. The only short term hope is to produce a booming economy through common sense reductions in regulations and low taxation. Both are being done with great results so far. If we can continue to reduce dependency on government, we may have a one time window of opportunity to reduce entitlements long term while people are not dependent on them.

Revenue is UP- as I said it would be. The issue is and has been spending.
We're booming!!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...c-growth-revised-down-2-2-rate-q-1/654826002/
 

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Nobody with an ounce of common sense expected anything but failure to result from these policies and actions.
these policies and actions have little to do with it. the country is a mess, Obama didn't "fix it", Europe is a mess. Low bond yields forever was a failed strategy from our central bankers, and the unraveling will be painful. No way out.
 

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Here I went through all the trouble to quit smoking....
 

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Nobody with an ounce of common sense expected anything but failure to result from these policies and actions.
So if the 2nd or 3rd quarter are over 3% growth, you’ll acknowledge Trump was right? It’s one quarter of GDP and it’s still better the Obama averaged. Give it some time.
 

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So if the 2nd or 3rd quarter are over 3% growth, you’ll acknowledge Trump was right? It’s one quarter of GDP and it’s still better the Obama averaged. Give it some time.
Please provide link to your data source. Also, explain how one quarter of data a conclusion makes; or how data from one quarter should appropriately be compared to data over an era that commenced under severe recession. Finally, explain why 2.2% growth is OK given the amount of investment used to obtain that rate.
 

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Please provide link to your data source. Also, explain how one quarter of data a conclusion makes; or how data from one quarter should appropriately be compared to data over an era that commenced under severe recession. Finally, explain why 2.2% growth is OK given the amount of investment used to obtain that rate.
I did it from memory, but here’s a link for you. It’s pretty simple math:
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2017/01/06/obama-economy-10-charts-final/3.html

I said, it’s one quarter of GDP. You’re making my point for me. Trump was being criticized for a short period in time. But, that poor quarter was still better than Obama’s entire two terms. Subtract the Obama’s first year of GDP, and it’s still worse.

Lastly, AGAIN, it’s one quarter. That’s why it’s OK.
 

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Trump is going to.....ruin America?

Mission Accomplished!
 

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these policies and actions have little to do with it. the country is a mess, Obama didn't "fix it", Europe is a mess. Low bond yields forever was a failed strategy from our central bankers, and the unraveling will be painful. No way out.
You’re a glass half empty kind of guy, aren’t you:confused:
 
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