America doing well under Trump

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The Lefties here are posting at an increasing rate and intensity against Trump and that can mean only one thing, Trump is doing well for the US and if they can’t explain it with quality posts, they post with more frequency and intensity to deflect from the good news and projections of future doom.
You still don't understand what a "Lefties" is, and you aren't paying any attention if you think it's Trump doing well that has so very many people concerned. If he were doing "well" we'd all be pretty happy and unconcerned. The shear number of huge scandals he is in, alone, makes your post absurd, much less all of the other long-term problems he is causing.
 

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You still don't understand what a "Lefties" is, and you aren't paying any attention if you think it's Trump doing well that has so very many people concerned.
Oh, I know what Lefties are. They are an increasingly Left leaning party of Democrats, to the extent that a Democrat-SOCIALIST has an excellent chance of being nominated for the 2020 Presidential candidate. They are not the party of JFK or LBJ, or even Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton.

It’s the party of no borders, increasing govt dependence, climate change activists, global citizenry, etc.
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Oh, I know what Lefties are. They are an increasingly Left leaning party of Democrats, to the extent that a Democrat-SOCIALIST has an excellent chance of being nominated for the 2020 Presidential candidate. They are not the party of JFK or LBJ, or even Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton.

It’s the party of no borders, increasing govt dependence, climate change activists, global citizenry, etc.
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That's great. And those of us who are not activists, who want rule of law for all, who value truth and reality, who want balanced budgets, want spending decreased, want to have far more allies than enemies, detest authoritarianism, and want decency and accountability in government and corruption out of it; are we a big "Lefties"?
 

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That's great. And those of us who are not activists, who want rule of law for all, who value truth and reality, who want balanced budgets, want spending decreased, want to have far more allies than enemies, detest authoritarianism, and want decency and accountability in government and corruption out of it; are we a big "Lefties"?
this is off-topic, but if there was ever going to be a real 3rd-party movement in the US, now is the time for it. A media-friendly centrist with the right mix of policies could grab a lot of support from people in the middle who think the Republicans have moved too far to the right, and think the Democrats have moved too far to the left.
 

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this is off-topic, but if there was ever going to be a real 3rd-party movement in the US, now is the time for it. A media-friendly centrist with the right mix of policies could grab a lot of support from people in the middle who think the Republicans have moved too far to the right, and think the Democrats have moved too far to the left.
That is what I was saying during the last election and there was little movement in favor of independents. Unfortunately the two parties have and are too worried about keeping their control.
 

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this is off-topic, but if there was ever going to be a real 3rd-party movement in the US, now is the time for it. A media-friendly centrist with the right mix of policies could grab a lot of support from people in the middle who think the Republicans have moved too far to the right, and think the Democrats have moved too far to the left.
I REALLY like everything you said here and agree 100%, with the small exception of what you said about the media. The MSM is bought and paid for largely by the folks you say have moved too far to the left. If indeed we had a strong, independent, free-thinking media, there is no DOUBT that this time would be ripe for a strong 3rd party movement. The MSM isn't the ONLY reason a 3rd party has no chance, but it's a huge part of it.

I totally agree with you on the premise though; I would love nothing better than to see an option for where I think are MOST people are on the spectrum of things, which is not NEARLY as hard left or right as it SEEMS to be right now. If you're getting your information from social media or MSM, you would think we are on the brink of civil war.
 

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ISIS leadership captured!!! Omg it's to much winning!
 

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I REALLY like everything you said here and agree 100%, with the small exception of what you said about the media. The MSM is bought and paid for largely by the folks you say have moved too far to the left. If indeed we had a strong, independent, free-thinking media, there is no DOUBT that this time would be ripe for a strong 3rd party movement. The MSM isn't the ONLY reason a 3rd party has no chance, but it's a huge part of it.

I totally agree with you on the premise though; I would love nothing better than to see an option for where I think are MOST people are on the spectrum of things, which is not NEARLY as hard left or right as it SEEMS to be right now. If you're getting your information from social media or MSM, you would think we are on the brink of civil war.
I would appreciate your personal list of approved media.

Do you believe that the "mainstream" (whatever that means, exactly) media is largely against Trump because they are "Lefties", or because of Trump's personal traits and role in our government? Does the "mainstream" media seem overtly negative toward all Republicans and people who are not "Lefties", or do they mainly focus their apparent negativity on those who are extremists?
 

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this is off-topic, but if there was ever going to be a real 3rd-party movement in the US, now is the time for it. A media-friendly centrist with the right mix of policies could grab a lot of support from people in the middle who think the Republicans have moved too far to the right, and think the Democrats have moved too far to the left.
His name is Donald Trump. He was smart enough to know a 3rd party can not win given the rules the 2 main parties have created & the media collusion with them.
 

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I would appreciate your personal list of approved media.

Do you believe that the "mainstream" (whatever that means, exactly) media is largely against Trump because they are "Lefties", or because of Trump's personal traits and role in our government? Does the "mainstream" media seem overtly negative toward all Republicans and people who are not "Lefties", or do they mainly focus their apparent negativity on those who are extremists?
Approved media? Or objective and unbiased? Plenty of media that does just fine, but NONE (virtually none anyway) do it without bias or agenda, one way or the other. That’s fine, but I just think they should be required to be up front and disclose what that agenda is because there are plenty of people who can’t tell.

The MSM and their vitriol, as I’ve said before, I believe has very little to do with Trump. They are supported and funded largely by a Liberal agenda (and certainly some by conservative as well) and plain and simple, they planned on winning in 2016. Period. Trump just happens to be the face of their anger at the moment.

If you think the anger and disdain for a winning GOP candidate other than Trump would be considerably less, you’re either an idiot or you’re being disingenuous. Sure, Trump makes it easy and for another person it would be SLIGHTLY less perhaps, but make no mistake, this is about the pain of losing the WH, regardless of who that person is.
 

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If you think the anger and disdain for a winning GOP candidate other than Trump would be considerably less, you’re either an idiot or you’re being disingenuous. Sure, Trump makes it easy and for another person it would be SLIGHTLY less perhaps, but make no mistake, this is about the pain of losing the WH, regardless of who that person is.
They can't continually report on his ridiculous tweets and lies if he isn't continually lying and tweeting ridiculous things... For the most part I agree with you, they would be attacking any GOP president, but it would be considerably less.
 

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They can't continually report on his ridiculous tweets and lies if he isn't continually lying and tweeting ridiculous things... For the most part I agree with you, they would be attacking any GOP president, but it would be considerably less.
Reagan dealt with hostile media with grace and charm, in an era before Fox News and when newspapers held sway. He did, however, pave the way for DJT, as the only president to have been divorced until now.
 

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His name is Donald Trump. He was smart enough to know a 3rd party can not win given the rules the 2 main parties have created & the media collusion with them.
This is very true. DJT is not a fool. He figured out a coalition and took a party over. Agreed.
 

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Approved media? Or objective and unbiased? Plenty of media that does just fine, but NONE (virtually none anyway) do it without bias or agenda, one way or the other. That’s fine, but I just think they should be required to be up front and disclose what that agenda is because there are plenty of people who can’t tell.

The MSM and their vitriol, as I’ve said before, I believe has very little to do with Trump. They are supported and funded largely by a Liberal agenda (and certainly some by conservative as well) and plain and simple, they planned on winning in 2016. Period. Trump just happens to be the face of their anger at the moment.

If you think the anger and disdain for a winning GOP candidate other than Trump would be considerably less, you’re either an idiot or you’re being disingenuous. Sure, Trump makes it easy and for another person it would be SLIGHTLY less perhaps, but make no mistake, this is about the pain of losing the WH, regardless of who that person is.
This is pretty much nonsensical. Trump and his shenanigans have everything to do with the current vitriol. You honestly believe that John McCain, Jeb Bush, Lindsay Graham, Nikki Haley would be headline negative news every hour every day ... just because? You believe that W was treated every remotely close to this? Come on man. Being a big fan of Trump doesn't have to come with blinders and ignorance. Trump brings the vitriol upon himself.
 

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That's great. And those of us who are not activists, who want rule of law for all, who value truth and reality, who want balanced budgets, want spending decreased, want to have far more allies than enemies, detest authoritarianism, and want decency and accountability in government and corruption out of it; are we a big "Lefties"?
I haven’t read your advocacy for rule of law for d folks. Think hill. Comey. Your truth and reality are limited by your insane partisan views.
 

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I would appreciate your personal list of approved media.

Do you believe that the "mainstream" (whatever that means, exactly) media is largely against Trump because they are "Lefties", or because of Trump's personal traits and role in our government? Does the "mainstream" media seem overtly negative toward all Republicans and people who are not "Lefties", or do they mainly focus their apparent negativity on those who are extremists?
All republicans. Easy.

Admit it.
 

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All republicans. Easy.

Admit it.
Is being a broken record ever tiring? Let's talk about something other than broken-record-ness. What makes you a huge fan of the current POTUS?
 

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I notice this got no response. Shocking. He really is a one line troll.
Is being a broken record ever tiring? Let's talk about something other than broken-record-ness. What makes you a huge fan of the current POTUS?
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Do you find something wrong or unhealthy about this? Is being wealthy bad?
 

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Do you find something wrong or unhealthy about this? Is being wealthy bad?
About the record buybacks? Yeah there is something wrong with it. I was told by you, and beeg that the tax cut was suppose to cause companies to spend on their employees, not spend record amounts on buybacks for their shareholders. Now, this IS helping me because I have a lot of money in some of these stocks, and dividends are especially nice. But this is not good over all. Notice that last part (record since before the great recession)? Sounds unhealthy to me.
 

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Is being a broken record ever tiring? Let's talk about something other than broken-record-ness. What makes you a huge fan of the current POTUS?
I can’t agree with a single thing bga1 has ever posted, but He has a point of view. BB is for nothing, and against everything. Rather have a beer with beeg.
 

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We have explained the supply and demand of labor to you all along with how and when it kicks in (event driven, not a timeline). You guys just sound like Hillary. Do you have your Russian hats? Most of you are still trying to give Obama credit for the energized recovery that is finally hitting. LOL! I love you guys!

0723, you need to start considering changing parties. You are a talent being wasted.
 

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Is being a broken record ever tiring? Let's talk about something other than broken-record-ness. What makes you a huge fan of the current POTUS?
Is admitting the truth hard for you? Apparently. Divert away.

Here I am Howie.
 

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I can’t agree with a single thing bga1 has ever posted, but He has a point of view. BB is for nothing, and against everything. Rather have a beer with beeg.
I am for upholding the laws. I am for protecting the borders. I am for low unemployment. I am for people working to earn a living.

Lots of other fors stpaulguy.

I am against posters on gh being so blinded by partisanship they cant see straight. Might want to look in the mirror.
 

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We have explained the supply and demand of labor to you all along with how and when it kicks in (event driven, not a timeline). You guys just sound like Hillary. Do you have your Russian hats? Most of you are still trying to give Obama credit for the energized recovery that is finally hitting. LOL! I love you guys!

0723, you need to start considering changing parties. You are a talent being wasted.
Obama absolutely gets credit for the recovery. Trump so far gets credit for energizing the current economy. Let's see how long it lasts. A lot of bad signs are starting to pop up.
 
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