All Things Trump Conflicts of Interest Thread

justthefacts

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There has been scattered discussion of this, but surprisingly few posts. Luckily the NYT summarized for us:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/us/politics/donald-trump-international-business.html

Mr. Antonio’s combination of jobs — he is a business partner with Mr. Trump, while also representing the Philippines in its relationship with the United States and the president-elect — is hardly inconsequential, given some of the weighty issues on the diplomatic table.

Among them, Mr. Duterte has urged “a separation” from the United States and has called for American troops to exit the country in two years’ time. His antidrug crusade has resulted in the summary killings of thousands of suspected criminals without trial, prompting criticism from the Obama administration.
“It is uncharted territory, really in the history of the republic, as we have never had a president with such an empire both in the United States and overseas,” said Michael J. Green, who served on the National Security Council in the administration of George W. Bush, and before that at the Defense Department.
The globe is dotted with such potential conflicts. Mr. Trump’s companies have business operations in at least 20 countries, with a particular focus on the developing world, including outposts in nations like India, Indonesia and Uruguay, according to a New York Times analysis of his presidential campaign financial disclosures. What’s more, the true extent of Mr. Trump’s global financial entanglements is unclear, since he has refused to release his tax returns and has not made public a list of his lenders.
In Brazil, for example, the beachfront Trump Hotel Rio de Janeiro — one of Mr. Trump’s many branding deals, in which he does not have an equity stake — is part of a broad investigation by a federal prosecutor who is examining whether illicit commissions and bribes resulted in apparent favoritism by two pension funds that invested in the project.

Several of Mr. Trump’s real estate ventures in India — where he has more projects underway than in any location outside North America — are being built through companies with family ties to India’s most important political party. This makes it more likely that Indian government officials will do special favors benefiting Mr. Trump’s projects, including pressuring state-owned banks to extend favorable loans.

In Ireland and Scotland, executives from Mr. Trump’s golf courses have been waging two separate battles with local officials. The most recent centers on the Trump Organization’s plans to build a flood-prevention sea wall at the course on the Irish coast. Some environmentalists say the wall could destroy an endangered snail’s habitat — a dispute that will soon involve the president of the United States.

And in Turkey, officials including President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a religiously conservative Muslim, demanded that Mr. Trump’s name be removed from Trump Towers in Istanbul after he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States. More recently, after Mr. Trump came to the defense of Mr. Erdogan — suggesting that he had the right to crack down harshly on dissidents after a failed coup — the calls for action against Trump Towers have stopped, fueling worries that Mr. Trump’s policies toward Turkey might be shaped by his commercial interests.

David J. Kramer, who served as assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor during the Bush administration, said Mr. Trump’s financial entanglements could undermine decades of efforts by Democratic and Republican presidents to promote government transparency — and to use the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act to stop contractors from paying bribes to secure government work abroad.

“This will make it a little harder to be able to go out and proselytize around these things,” Mr. Kramer said.
But the Constitution, through what is called the emoluments clause, appears to prohibit him from taking payments or gifts from a foreign government entity, a standard that some legal experts say he may violate by renting space in Trump Tower in New York to the Bank of China or if he hosts foreign diplomats in one of his hotels.
 

justthefacts

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-son-in-law-could-face-his-own-conflict-of-interest-questions-1480377903


The real-estate company controlled by Jared Kushner, President-elect Donald Trump’s son-in-law, has hundreds of millions of dollars in loans outstanding from domestic and foreign financial institutions, markets condominiums to wealthy U.S. and foreign buyers and has obtained development financing through a controversial U.S. program that sells green cards.
If Mr. Trump wanted to give Mr. Kushner an official role he also would have to comply with federal nepotism law. Even if Mr. Kushner were to serve in the new administration as an unpaid adviser, his potential influence on policy would invite scrutiny, legal experts said.
Mr. Kushner has discussed putting his assets in a blind trust as part of accepting a federal job. But Mr. Painter said this probably wouldn’t work unless he sold assets and put the money in a trust. “You can’t pretend you don’t own something just by putting it in a blind trust,” he said.
 

justthefacts

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/30/trumps-unthinkable-conflict-millions-in-debts-to-german-bank-now-facing-federal-fines/
Federal regulators are seeking a $14 billion fine from Deutsche Bank, Trump’s top lender, to settle claims that the bank issued toxic mortgages amid the housing crisis. German media have suggested the bank has sought a state bailout that could lead to partial ownership of the bank by the German government.

A settlement could be reached before a new president takes office, but government-ethics experts say the Deutsche Bank situation is a stark reminder of how Trump could face a conflicting set of interests as the nation's negotiator in chief.

As head of the executive branch, he’d oversee the Justice Department and the United States' relations with the rest of the world. But he’d still have a lengthy series of financial relationships with private institutions and countries with business before the United States.

“It’s certainly foreseeable that he could intervene with the DOJ so as to not upset the financing of his companies,” said Trevor Potter, a former Federal Election Commission chairman and general counsel of George H.W. Bush and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).
 

LesBolstad

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Boo F*ing Hoo. Every one of your fun "facts" is a conservative or Republican hit piece. Just another liberal sore loser who can't figure out what just happened.

Zero credibility when you only criticize one side. Zip. Nada.
 

Gdizzle

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Boo F*ing Hoo. Every one of your fun "facts" is a conservative or Republican hit piece. Just another liberal sore loser who can't figure out what just happened.

Zero credibility when you only criticize one side. Zip. Nada.
I urge you to examine this problem on its own without considering sides. This is the President—there are no more sides. Yes you are right, he won. Now he has to be the one president of our country and abide by all the regulations that it entails without reflecting back onto another "side."

A silly image comes to mind of the Aladdin movie when Jafar wished to be a genie, but then got trapped by all the associated restrictions that come with it.

Let's see how he handles it when he has no more "left" scapegoat. All this tweeting is definitely an obvious distraction mechanism.
 

LesBolstad

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I urge you to examine this problem on its own without considering sides. This is the President—there are no more sides. Yes you are right, he won. Now he has to be the one president of our country and abide by all the regulations that it entails without reflecting back onto another "side."

A silly image comes to mind of the Aladdin movie when Jafar wished to be a genie, but then got trapped by all the associated restrictions that come with it.

Let's see how he handles it when he has no more "left" scapegoat. All this tweeting is definitely an obvious distraction mechanism.
Duly noted. I'm not going to get worked up into a frenzy by some tweets like the left does. Let's at least wait until he's in office a few months and see what his policies bring about. I for one have been extremely impressed with the staff and cabinet he appears to be putting together.
 

justthefacts

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Duly noted. I'm not going to get worked up into a frenzy by some tweets like the left does. Let's at least wait until he's in office a few months and see what his policies bring about. I for one have been extremely impressed with the staff and cabinet he appears to be putting together.
What tweets? On a diplomatic call with the President of Turkey he put in a plug for his business interests. If Hillary Clinton did that you'd be outraged.
 

Gdizzle

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Our lefties are in total panic that Trump has more real success in 3 weeks as President-elect than Obama had in 8 years as President (would not have taken much). They simply do not want America to Be Great Again.
So your stance is that the information presented by the NYT is not true, and is simply a show of "panic" from the left? My take is that they are doing their due diligence regarding a candidate that is unlike his predecessors. I wonder how many tweets it will take for us to forget all about this. I'm hoping there isn't a number.
 

howeda7

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What tweets? On a diplomatic call with the President of Turkey he put in a plug for his business interests. If Hillary Clinton did that you'd be outraged.
He's also taken Ivanka to multiple meetings with various world leaders. The message is loud and clear. Play ball with the Trump organization if you want his favor. In his defense, at least he's open about it. If Hillary did 1/10 of this, Beeg's head would explode. 2's too it seems.
 

howeda7

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I'm actually curious, what in that 3 weeks qualifies as such success?
He declared that a Ford plant in Kentucky was moving to Mexico (it wasn't) and then 'stopped' it from doing so. Thousands of jobs 'created'! MAGA!

There will be so many great stories like this about our dear leader in the next 4 years. Probably delivered to us by our own state-run media like that fine woman in North Korea.
 

mplarson7

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He declared that a Ford plant in Kentucky was moving to Mexico (it wasn't) and then 'stopped' it from doing so. Thousands of jobs 'created'! MAGA!

There will be so many great stories like this about our dear leader in the next 4 years. Probably delivered to us by our own state-run media like that fine woman in North Korea.
The Ford plant was a very good friend of his. Very good. Great guy. Good friend.
 

LesBolstad

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He declared that a Ford plant in Kentucky was moving to Mexico (it wasn't) and then 'stopped' it from doing so. Thousands of jobs 'created'! MAGA!

There will be so many great stories like this about our dear leader in the next 4 years. Probably delivered to us by our own state-run media like that fine woman in North Korea.
Carrier staying in Indiana. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

Not even in office yet and doing things Obama didn't even try.
 

justthefacts

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Carrier staying in Indiana. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

Not even in office yet and doing things Obama didn't even try.
None of this has anything to do with Trump's conflicts of interest, but:

Trump gives tax breaks to Carrier? Hero.

Obama gives tax breaks to Carrier? Satan! http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/carrier-received-5-1-million-in-obama-stimulus-cash/

There's absolutely nothing keeping Carrier from moving the jobs later after the heat is off. Hell, it's probably something they discussed. After all, Carrier has reneged on these deals before. Not just the above, but also:

http://www.ibj.com/articles/57207-state-will-seek-return-of-taxpayer-funded-incentives-from-carrier-corp-utec
 

cncmin

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None of this has anything to do with Trump's conflicts of interest, but:

Trump gives tax breaks to Carrier? Hero.

Obama gives tax breaks to Carrier? Satan! http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/carrier-received-5-1-million-in-obama-stimulus-cash/

There's absolutely nothing keeping Carrier from moving the jobs later after the heat is off. Hell, it's probably something they discussed. After all, Carrier has reneged on these deals before. Not just the above, but also:

http://www.ibj.com/articles/57207-state-will-seek-return-of-taxpayer-funded-incentives-from-carrier-corp-utec
Gotta love that Donnie added Propaganda Minister Steve Bannon to his cabinet. And the Righties laud the move. Yay, lies and propaganda!
 

Sportsfan24

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Duly noted. I'm not going to get worked up into a frenzy by some tweets like the left does. Let's at least wait until he's in office a few months and see what his policies bring about. I for one have been extremely impressed with the staff and cabinet he appears to be putting together.
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diehard

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I have to admit that I have never enjoyed the absolute agony of so many progressive before. These next 4 years are going to be great.
 

justthefacts

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/?utm_term=.57c74ed17500&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?

Because he has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives. Even corporations that weren’t thinking of offshoring jobs will most probably be re-evaluating their stance this morning. And who would pay for the high cost for tax cuts that go to the richest businessmen in America? The working class of America.
 

howeda7

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/?utm_term=.57c74ed17500&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?

Because he has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives. Even corporations that weren’t thinking of offshoring jobs will most probably be re-evaluating their stance this morning. And who would pay for the high cost for tax cuts that go to the richest businessmen in America? The working class of America.
$7 million in tax breaks to save 1,000 jobs while still taking the other 1,000 to Mexico. What a great deal made by a great man. Nice of Pence to let Donald take the credit for this spectacular deal.
 

LesBolstad

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$7 million in tax breaks to save 1,000 jobs while still taking the other 1,000 to Mexico. What a great deal made by a great man. Nice of Pence to let Donald take the credit for this spectacular deal.
Wow! That is an awesome deal. Only 7 million to save 1,000 jobs? Ask those 1,000 and their families if it was worth it.

Too bad Obama didn't attempt some deals to keep jobs here. Just think, if he'd have taken the $535 million given/lost to Solyndra; and gave some small business tax breaks, he could have saved what, 75,000 jobs?
 

GopherJake

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Wow! That is an awesome deal. Only 7 million to save 1,000 jobs? Ask those 1,000 and their families if it was worth it.

Too bad Obama didn't attempt some deals to keep jobs here. Just think, if he'd have taken the $535 million given/lost to Solyndra; and gave some small business tax breaks, he could have saved what, 75,000 jobs?
Yay, small government!!
 
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