All Things "The Trump Admin is Objectively Ineffective"

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Think of it like swapping jerseys on the soccer pitch.
 

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Good Lord, you say some things sometimes that really make you wonder if you're for real. Are you honestly painting the world with these broad brushes that almost every Hispanic or every African American or any other minority votes almost 100% Democrat? Where in the f'k do you get your information? "Hispanics hate the GOP!!" "Blacks vote Democrat across the board!!"

You might be the most racist person on the board, but you're in the running with many others, to be sure.
None of that is what I said. BB was arguing that the Trump Administration didn't have a political motivation for putting the citizenship question on the ballot because the largest populations of Latino voters are in red states. That does not logically mean there's no GOP advantage to under-counting that population. I said nothing about "All this" or Across the board" that. Calm down.
 

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None of that is what I said. BB was arguing that the Trump Administration didn't have a political motivation for putting the citizenship question on the ballot because the largest populations of Latino voters are in red states. That does not logically mean there's no GOP advantage to under-counting that population. I said nothing about "All this" or Across the board" that. Calm down.
99% of your problems with Trump boil down to YOUR interpretation of his personal "motivation". It seems exhausting.
 

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So the gotcha is that the admin is not considering a payroll tax cut, but Trump thinks about the payroll tax a lot. Boom. Roasted. Continue to drown out the actual problems with Trump with nonsense noise like this. Great strategy.
 

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So the gotcha is that the admin is not considering a payroll tax cut, but Trump thinks about the payroll tax a lot. Boom. Roasted. Continue to drown out the actual problems with Trump with nonsense noise like this. Great strategy.
The real problems are that Trump doesn't think before he speaks, is a serial liar and does one dumbass thing after the next.
 

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The real problems are that Trump doesn't think before he speaks, is a serial liar and does one dumbass thing after the next.
And even worse, when Trump says stuff out of the blue he then demands his people go work on it. The trans ban in the military being Exhibit A.
 

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So the gotcha is that the admin is not considering a payroll tax cut, but Trump thinks about the payroll tax a lot. Boom. Roasted. Continue to drown out the actual problems with Trump with nonsense noise like this. Great strategy.
I would imagine most people think about the payroll tax a lot. Never mind the idea of raising the payroll tax or cutting the payroll tax; just the thought of the payroll tax is what is really exciting. In fact, if I think about the payroll tax long enough, I usually end up rubbing one out, and I’m sure you and the president do too. Actually, just writing this post is quite stimulating; so if you’ll excuse me...
 

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And even worse, when Trump says stuff out of the blue he then demands his people go work on it. The trans ban in the military being Exhibit A.
Yep. 2 doesn't care. He's waiting to see. Trump is going to shut up and be Presidential any day now.
 

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I would imagine most people think about the payroll tax a lot. Never mind the idea of raising the payroll tax or cutting the payroll tax; just the thought of the payroll tax is what is really exciting. In fact, if I think about the payroll tax long enough, I usually end up rubbing one out, and I’m sure you and the president do too. Actually, just writing this post is quite stimulating; so if you’ll excuse me...
Time to calm down and picture AOC and "the Squad." KGF does it for hours per day. it works.
 

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The real problems are that Trump doesn't think before he speaks, is a serial liar and does one dumbass thing after the next.
Thinking about the payroll tax isn't an example of any of those.
 

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Yep. 2 doesn't care. He's waiting to see. Trump is going to shut up and be Presidential any day now.
No, I don't care about Trump thinking about the payroll tax. Are you upset he's thinking about it or you upset he said he's thinking about it? This is like people who complain that athletes give canned answers to every question, and then also freak out when they say their true feelings. Outrage culture is not good. You guys are trying hard to get outraged over this non story.
 

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Trump now has 3 separate Nat Sec Advisors whose terms were shorter than any Nat Sec Advisor under the previous 4 Presidents.
 

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CNN: Trump's push to save coal is failing. Coal demand to plunge to 42-year low

US power plants are expected to consume less coal next year than at any point since President Jimmy Carter was in office, according to government forecasts released on Tuesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/business/coal-power-trump/index.html

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Hillary Clinton proposes a multi-prong plan that supports workers and communities in a transition away from coal toward more diverse and sustainable economies. Donald Trump, meanwhile, says he will put coal miners back to work in the mines by strengthening the country's reliance on coal.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ucenergy/2016/11/04/building-on-clintons-plan-to-revitalize-coal-country/#71a9f8a61953
 

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I gotta say. This is the kind of thing that I’m not happy about. And the G7 meeting as well. But you must realize that a consequence of all outrage all the time is that everything gets lumped together. And you’ve made such giant mountains out of such nothingness, that legit complaints get washed away. No one other than hard core hacks and partisans has the energy to be mad about everything. So enjoy being a martyr who is occasionally right but who drowns himself out.


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Trump's a man alone. Out numbered, and out gunned by the corporations, the military industrial complex, MSM, Dems and never-Trumpers. Yet somehow, he has them surrounded.
 

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Trump's a man alone. Out numbered, and out gunned by the corporations, the military industrial complex, MSM, Dems and never-Trumpers. Yet somehow, he has them surrounded.
This narrative that corporations hate Trump is really something (are they socialist now?). We all know that corporations hate tax cuts and a deregulatory agenda. They’re also going hate it when he loosens the rules on corporate inversions:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ning-obama-rules-to-curb-corporate-inversions
 

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But you’d be okay with Mayor Pete being President Pete, no?

I don’t doubt that there are many “more qualified” judges. It was probably true when Sotomayer and Kagan were nominated for the SC. But, more importantly, your beef should be with Harry Reid for ending the filibuster for Federal Judges.
 

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CNN: Trump's push to save coal is failing. Coal demand to plunge to 42-year low

US power plants are expected to consume less coal next year than at any point since President Jimmy Carter was in office, according to government forecasts released on Tuesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/business/coal-power-trump/index.html

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2016:
Hillary Clinton proposes a multi-prong plan that supports workers and communities in a transition away from coal toward more diverse and sustainable economies. Donald Trump, meanwhile, says he will put coal miners back to work in the mines by strengthening the country's reliance on coal.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ucenergy/2016/11/04/building-on-clintons-plan-to-revitalize-coal-country/#71a9f8a61953
We can all be thankful that Obama was such a big proponent of fracking which is replacing coal....:):)
 

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We can all be thankful that Obama was such a big proponent of fracking which is replacing coal....:):)

Fracking is the best thing that ever happened to the sand manufacturing industry in the history of this country. Get over it.
 

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But you’d be okay with Mayor Pete being President Pete, no?

I don’t doubt that there are many “more qualified” judges. It was probably true when Sotomayer and Kagan were nominated for the SC. But, more importantly, your beef should be with Harry Reid for ending the filibuster for Federal Judges.
Talk about apples and oranges. You're right there are thousands of more qualified judges. So he picks completely unqualified ones because? And Turtle Mitch and the R's in the Senate approve them because?
 

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Talk about apples and oranges. You're right there are thousands of more qualified judges. So he picks completely unqualified ones because? And Turtle Mitch and the R's in the Senate approve them because?
It’s a good point. You support the mayor of a small city for president simply because he’s gay. A federal judge isn’t as consequential.


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It’s a good point. You support the mayor of a small city for president simply because he’s gay. A federal judge isn’t as consequential.


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I don’t know anyone who prefers Pete for his gayness. Yes, his highest elected office is mayor. The current President did not have that level of experience, so it’s tough for Trump supporters to make that point. He’s a combat veteran, something that Trump does not have in his portfolio.
 
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