All Things "The Trump Admin is Objectively Ineffective"

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"Sorry, sir, your child died during surgery because we were out of medical supplies. However, I did find this intriguing white paper from the NBER on the main reasons medical supply companies were located in Puerto Rico."

Sounds totally satisfying.
Your child died during surgery because of the FDA. It's not hard to produce IV bags. They are a commodity.
 

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Please share what the reason for the shortage is then, oh genius.
The possible reasons for shortage of a commodity: protectionism, price controls, regulation
 

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I think "we need iv bags!" is a lousy rationale.
Who is saying that is the rational for rebuilding PR? We should rebuild it because they are freaking American citizens suffering and our response has been inept. You seem heartless about the entire thing and more interested in what evil government regulation or scandal prompted medical device companies to locate there or what tax rate they pay.
 

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Trump's PR response led to an IV bag shortage!
Well, let's look and see why there is an IV bag shortage?
You hate brown people!
If this were happening inside your Edina bubble, I doubt you'd be excusing the inept recovery by talking about tax rates or evil regulations.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...re-plan-emerge-from-trump-retreat/2018/01/07/

President Trump expressed misgivings about his administration’s infrastructure plan Friday at Camp David, telling Republican leaders that building projects through public-private partnerships is unlikely to work — and that it may be better for the government to pursue a different path.

Then on Saturday morning, Gary Cohn, the president’s chief economic adviser, delivered a detailed proposal on infrastructure and public-private partnerships that seemed to contradict the president. He said the administration hoped $200 billion in new federal government spending would trigger almost $1 trillion in private spending and local and state spending, according to people familiar with his comments. Cohn seemed to present the plan as the administration’s approach, although the president had suggested such an approach might not work.

The seemingly contradictory statements, made within 24 hours of each other, show the uncertainty of the administration's approach to its top legislative priority in 2018: building roads, bridges, highways.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...re-plan-emerge-from-trump-retreat/2018/01/07/

President Trump expressed misgivings about his administration’s infrastructure plan Friday at Camp David, telling Republican leaders that building projects through public-private partnerships is unlikely to work — and that it may be better for the government to pursue a different path.

Then on Saturday morning, Gary Cohn, the president’s chief economic adviser, delivered a detailed proposal on infrastructure and public-private partnerships that seemed to contradict the president. He said the administration hoped $200 billion in new federal government spending would trigger almost $1 trillion in private spending and local and state spending, according to people familiar with his comments. Cohn seemed to present the plan as the administration’s approach, although the president had suggested such an approach might not work.

The seemingly contradictory statements, made within 24 hours of each other, show the uncertainty of the administration's approach to its top legislative priority in 2018: building roads, bridges, highways.
...and walls.
 

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Who is saying that is the rational for rebuilding PR? We should rebuild it because they are freaking American citizens suffering and our response has been inept. You seem heartless about the entire thing and more interested in what evil government regulation or scandal prompted medical device companies to locate there or what tax rate they pay.
Bottlebass is saying it. I think the federal government should provide humanitarian aid. PRs fiscal mess is of their own making, you may know they recently filed bankruptcy. Giving them billions to rebuild their infrastructure is bailing out bad decision making. That's my stance with all disaster relief, but the fact that puerto ricans pay almost nothing in federal taxes makes it even more clear.
So disaster relief and iv bags are 2 separate issues. No I dont' think we should spend billions because we need iv bags. If you want to know why there is a shortage, you can look directly at the policies of the FDA. But that just doesn't fit your narrative . That's the issue, but we can't talk about it. Just send them billions!
 

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If this were happening inside your Edina bubble, I doubt you'd be excusing the inept recovery by talking about tax rates or evil regulations.
If those things were primarily responsible, of course I would.
 

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Bottlebass is saying it. I think the federal government should provide humanitarian aid. PRs fiscal mess is of their own making, you may know they recently filed bankruptcy. Giving them billions to rebuild their infrastructure is bailing out bad decision making. That's my stance with all disaster relief, but the fact that puerto ricans pay almost nothing in federal taxes makes it even more clear.
So disaster relief and iv bags are 2 separate issues. No I dont' think we should spend billions because we need iv bags. If you want to know why there is a shortage, you can look directly at the policies of the FDA. But that just doesn't fit your narrative . That's the issue, but we can't talk about it. Just send them billions!
Their infrastructure? You and Trump are unaware that they're a United States territory. If they didn't have predominantly brown skin, this would be a very different conversation.
 

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Their infrastructure? You and Trump are unaware that they're a United States territory. If they didn't have predominantly brown skin, this would be a very different conversation.
It wouldn't be. I don't view states and territories the same. They spent money that could have been used for infrastructure on a giant bureaucracy and long term pension obligations that have bankrupted them. Socialism is the reason for their crumbling infrastructure.

I also wouldn't rebuild the infrastructure of the northern mariana islands
 

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Their infrastructure? You and Trump are unaware that they're a United States territory. If they didn't have predominantly brown skin, this would be a very different conversation.
Yep.
 

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Bottlebass is saying it. I think the federal government should provide humanitarian aid. PRs fiscal mess is of their own making, you may know they recently filed bankruptcy. Giving them billions to rebuild their infrastructure is bailing out bad decision making. That's my stance with all disaster relief, but the fact that puerto ricans pay almost nothing in federal taxes makes it even more clear.
So disaster relief and iv bags are 2 separate issues. No I dont' think we should spend billions because we need iv bags. If you want to know why there is a shortage, you can look directly at the policies of the FDA. But that just doesn't fit your narrative . That's the issue, but we can't talk about it. Just send them billions!

New Orleans has been hit by hurricane's before. So has Houston. They didn't move the city or build better flooding protections. Their mess is of their own making. #$% 'em.


How is that any different?
 

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New Orleans has been hit by hurricane's before. So has Houston. They didn't move the city or build better flooding protections. Their mess is of their own making. #$% 'em.


How is that any different?
PR is bankrupt. That's the mess of their own making.
Houston and New Orleans don't have any brown people? That's the only reason why I hold the position I do on PR?
 

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PR is bankrupt. That's the mess of their own making.
Houston and New Orleans don't have any brown people? That's the only reason why I hold the position I do on PR?
You don't think they're "real" Americans so it's OK to let them live in squalor since they got hit by a hurricane. Clearly Trump agrees with you. I think it's disgusting. We didn't check the bond rating of Texas or Louisiana before providing help. If you want there to be some conditions on the help, fine. But get the freaking power back on and then worry about it.
 

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You don't think they're "real" Americans so it's OK to let them live in squalor since they got hit by a hurricane. Clearly Trump agrees with you. I think it's disgusting. We didn't check the bond rating of Texas or Louisiana before providing help. If you want there to be some conditions on the help, fine. But get the freaking power back on and then worry about it.
Again with the quotes around a phrase I didn't utter. I really don't understand it. It's fine if that's your interpretation of what I said, even if it's wrong. I just don't get the need to constantly use quotes incorrectly.

I don't know what all is involved with getting the power back on. If that's all you mean by rebuilding their infrastructure, I'm open to it. I'd much rather repeal the Jones act, as I suspect that has to do with some of their problems. I'd love it if that was our response to every crisis.
 

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Puerto Ricans are American enough to be drafted in the US military, pretty sure they're American enough to get some federal assistance after a natural disaster.
 

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It wouldn't be. I don't view states and territories the same. They spent money that could have been used for infrastructure on a giant bureaucracy and long term pension obligations that have bankrupted them. Socialism is the reason for their crumbling infrastructure.

I also wouldn't rebuild the infrastructure of the northern mariana islands
It's been clear for a long time that you are extremely callous and a Grade-A asswipe. You don't have to keep proving it in every post.

I do hope that the Puerto Ricans move out of Puerto Rico in droves because of this...and make sure that places like Florida and the Carolinas never again vote for a Republican for President.
 

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You don't think they're "real" Americans so it's OK to let them live in squalor since they got hit by a hurricane. Clearly Trump agrees with you. I think it's disgusting. We didn't check the bond rating of Texas or Louisiana before providing help. If you want there to be some conditions on the help, fine. But get the freaking power back on and then worry about it.
Texas and Louisiana are red states. Deuce is fine with supporting them. Deuce's principles are as weak as his constant waffling.
 

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It's been clear for a long time that you are extremely callous and a Grade-A asswipe. You don't have to keep proving it in every post.

I do hope that the Puerto Ricans move out of Puerto Rico in droves because of this...and make sure that places like Florida and the Carolinas never again vote for a Republican for President.
If they had a Republican governor or mayor, it would be their fault. Democrat government though, so it’s trumps fault. Every single time. So predictable. But Howie really cares.


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Texas and Louisiana are red states. Deuce is fine with supporting them. Deuce's principles are as weak as his constant waffling.
I’d rather the federal government have nothing to do with anything but humanitarian aid. Red state or blue state. I said the same thing during Houston.


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I’d rather the federal government have nothing to do with anything but humanitarian aid. Red state or blue state. I said the same thing during Houston.


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Blackouts in hospitals and all over the place. All the while....Trump says that food and water shortages are the failure of PR to self-organize. You don't care about humanitarian aid. You're a right wing shill set to defend the pathetic response from the Trump admin. It's been horrible.
 

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Blackouts in hospitals and all over the place. All the while....Trump says that food and water shortages are the failure of PR to self-organize. You don't care about humanitarian aid. You're a right wing shill set to defend the pathetic response from the Trump admin. It's been horrible.
How much money have you donated to PR?


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How much money have you donated to PR?


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Nothing. The government should be taking of its citizens. Unfortunately.....Trump is a lame duck.

But.....this just puts another major hole in your stupid ideas. That in the absence of the government.....charity would step up and solve all the problems. Another victim2 failure. Might as well throw KFC in there too. He's been failing ever since he started posting.
 
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