All Things "The Trump Admin is Objectively Ineffective"

justthefacts

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We have good running threads on Trump's conflicts of interest, the Comey firing, etc. We need one in which we can post all the examples of how he's just not very good at running a government.

I posted in another thread the article about how long it takes him to get nominees sent to the Senate: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/politics/federal-contractor-leak-prosecution/index.html

Now this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-06/in-trump-s-white-house-everything-s-coming-in-two-weeks

From overhauling the tax code to releasing an infrastructure package to making decisions on Nafta and the Paris climate agreement, Trump has a common refrain: A big announcement is coming in just “two weeks.” It rarely does.
“We’re going to be announcing something I would say over the next two or three weeks that will be phenomenal in terms of tax and developing our aviation infrastructure,” Trump said while meeting with airline executives.

Eleven weeks elapsed before the White House released a one-page outline of the tax plan.

In an April 29 interview on “CBS This Morning” Trump said of his promised $1 trillion infrastructure construction program: “We’ve got the plan largely completed and we’ll be filing over the next two or three weeks -- maybe sooner,” Trump said.

No legislation has been filed. The White House has yet to outline the plan, beyond broad principles described in Trump’s proposed budget.
It’s been 15 weeks since Trump promised an aviation infrastructure proposal in two weeks. Trump sent a set of ”principles” for overhauling the U.S. air-traffic control system to Congress on Monday.
“And I’ll be making a big decision on the Paris accord over the next two weeks,” Trump said in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

A month later, Trump was still weighing his decision. Top advisers said his thoughts continued to evolve. Trump announced his decision to pull the U.S. out of the agreement on June 1.
On June 1, Trump said tax legislation was “moving along in Congress,” although no such bill has been filed. When journalists have asked Trump about specific policy positions or the progress he’s made fulfilling his campaign promises, Trump has repeatedly retreated to his “two weeks” line.

“We’re going to make an announcement in two weeks,” Trump said in an April 5 interview with the New York Times, when asked his position on the Davis-Bacon law regulating wages on federally funded infrastructure projects. “It’s going to be good.’’

The Trump administration has made no announcement on the Davis-Bacon law.
 

JimmyJamesMD

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Trump has made a lot of self-inflicted wounds, but I don't think anyone is being honest and sincere if they don't acknowledge all of the roadblocks by the deep state and politicians that have prevented him from progressing
 

Ignatius L Hoops

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/06/trump-administration-nominees-paperwork-239124

How Trump is stalling his own nominees: The White House has taken weeks to formally submit nominations to the Senate, even after announcing the picks.

“Do I know why it’s taken so long for any of them?” responded Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), when asked about Brouillette’s delay.

“I don’t know what happens,” the chairwoman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee added. “They go into some dark hole. And eventually they come out. But still.”
 

Bad Gopher

A Loner, A Rebel
Trump has made a lot of self-inflicted wounds, but I don't think anyone is being honest and sincere if they don't acknowledge all of the roadblocks by the deep state and politicians that have prevented him from progressing
Has the so-called Deep State prevented him from even submitting nominees for ambassador to 165 nations? He's submitted only 9. That's extraordinarily - almost impossibly - inactive and ineffectual. Throughout the campaign, he went on and on, promising to snap his fingers and do things instantly that it would take others years to do. It reminds me of that Garfield comic where Jon declares that he's going to go out and conquer the world. In the third panel he's walking back past Garfield with his head down saying, "I couldn't get the door open."
 

JimmyJamesMD

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/06/trump-administration-nominees-paperwork-239124

How Trump is stalling his own nominees: The White House has taken weeks to formally submit nominations to the Senate, even after announcing the picks.

“Do I know why it’s taken so long for any of them?” responded Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), when asked about Brouillette’s delay.

“I don’t know what happens,” the chairwoman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee added. “They go into some dark hole. And eventually they come out. But still.”
They had a D senator on from West Virginia on Fox News this morning. He said filling nominees isn't that big of a deal. Every nominee that has come for a vote he has voted "yes" for. Unless there is a huge red flag, they are just appointees, and he's going to vote "yes." He thinks McConnell is holding things up. So Trump's admin or McConnell and friends are slowing the process.
 

JimmyJamesMD

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Has the so-called Deep State prevented him from even submitting nominees for ambassador to 165 nations? He's submitted only 9. That's extraordinarily - almost impossibly - inactive and ineffectual. Throughout the campaign, he went on and on, promising to snap his fingers and do things instantly that it would take others years to do. It reminds me of that Garfield comic where Jon declares that he's going to go out and conquer the world. In the third panel he's walking back past Garfield with his head down saying, "I couldn't get the door open."
He's either dropping the ball or other hurdles from his admin.

Wasn't there word of him not filling seats because there wasn't enough candidates willing to take the positions because they didn't want to work for him? Lifelong Washington workers? If this is the case, throw the positions on the website and have candidates from all over the country apply. That could help get rid of the deep state.

Or maybe Trump is spending too much time watching cable news. I don't know what the deal is. I'm still going to support him unless facts come out that he's just sitting on his butt tweeting while watching fox news.
 

howeda7

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Trump has made a lot of self-inflicted wounds, but I don't think anyone is being honest and sincere if they don't acknowledge all of the roadblocks by the deep state and politicians that have prevented him from progressing
These are all legislative items. Even if this "Deep State" BS was real, it would have nothing to do with the Administration blatantly lying about plans they are going to release and then failing to do so. Give me a break. It's not as though they are submitting great, detailed plans and the Senate and House are sitting on them refusing to bring them for a vote. They literally issue these BS proclamations of great plans coming "in two weeks" and then do nothing, or issue a page of bullet points any of us could wing in 5 minutes and call it a 'great plan.' It's pathetic.
 

GoodasGold

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He's either dropping the ball or other hurdles from his admin.

Wasn't there word of him not filling seats because there wasn't enough candidates willing to take the positions because they didn't want to work for him? Lifelong Washington workers? If this is the case, throw the positions on the website and have candidates from all over the country apply. That could help get rid of the deep state.

Or maybe Trump is spending too much time watching cable news. I don't know what the deal is. I'm still going to support him unless facts come out that he's just sitting on his butt tweeting while watching fox news.
I think you're on to something. And the hair. Don't forget the hair. He once told a reporter that he spent at least 90 minutes a day washing, drying, folding, triangulating and otherwise styling his coiffure. Any man can do only so much.
 

stocker08

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These are all legislative items. Even if this "Deep State" BS was real, it would have nothing to do with the Administration blatantly lying about plans they are going to release and then failing to do so. Give me a break. It's not as though they are submitting great, detailed plans and the Senate and House are sitting on them refusing to bring them for a vote. They literally issue these BS proclamations of great plans coming "in two weeks" and then do nothing, or issue a page of bullet points any of us could wing in 5 minutes and call it a 'great plan.' It's pathetic.
How do we know that the computers and printers in Washington aren't working for the deep state?
 

JimmyJamesMD

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I think you're on to something. And the hair. Don't forget the hair. He once told a reporter that he spent at least 90 minutes a day washing, drying, folding, triangulating and otherwise styling his coiffure. Any man can do only so much.
Fake news. Based off his appearance, it looks like he gave up that routine long ago. But I guarantee he hasn't given up his fast food addiction. At least Slick Clinton would jog to McDonald's.
 

Ignatius L Hoops

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https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/06/05/the-110-billion-arms-deal-to-saudi-arabia-is-fake-news/

The Saudi deal:

Last month, President Trump visited Saudi Arabia and his administration announced that he had concluded a $110 billion arms deal with the kingdom. Only problem is that there is no deal. It’s fake news.

I’ve spoken to contacts in the defense business and on the Hill, and all of them say the same thing: There is no $110 billion deal. Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday. So far nothing has been notified to the Senate for review. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the arms sales wing of the Pentagon, calls them “intended sales.” None of the deals identified so far are new, all began in the Obama administration.
 

Section2

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Still early, but this is true. Too busy tweeting and too little time working it seems. Not "getting stuff done" is not always bad. But it should be a conscious choice rather than inability to execute anything.
 

Ignatius L Hoops

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-top-law-firms-turned-requests-represent-trump-122423972.html

Even hiring outside counsel is a challenge. It probably explains why Kasowitz is apparently hiding in a closet with his phone turned to mute.

Top lawyers with at least four major law firms rebuffed White House overtures to represent President Trump in the Russia investigations, in part over concerns that the president would be unwilling to listen to their advice, according to five sources familiar with discussions about the matter.

The unwillingness of some of the country’s most prestigious attorneys and their law firms to represent Trump has complicated the administration’s efforts to mount a coherent defense strategy to deal with probes being conducted by four congressional committees as well as Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller.

The president’s chief lawyer now in charge of the case is Marc E. Kasowitz, a tough New York civil litigator who for years has aggressively represented Trump in multiple business and public relations disputes — often with threats of countersuits and menacing public statements — but who has little experience dealing with complex congressional and Justice Department investigations that are inevitably influenced by media coverage and public opinion.
 

Ignatius L Hoops

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Final one for a while; this really is shooting fish in a very small barrel. Hiring a competent Attorney General seems beyond Trumps ability.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-problems

The president’s self-defeating, one-sided feud with his own Justice Department apparently goes to the very top. According to The New York Times’s Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman, Trump’s Twitter tantrum was merely the public expression of Trump’s long-simmering frustrations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions—one of Trump’s earliest supporters and, it seems, one of his greatest disappointments. Just weeks after taking over the D.O.J., Sessions was forced to recuse himself from the federal investigation into the Trump campaign’s alleged ties to Russia after it emerged that he had undisclosed contacts with U.S. Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Trump was furious, and reportedly criticized his staff for not defending Sessions more. But as time passed, Trump’s anger apparently shifted to Sessions himself. People close to Trump told the Times that the president blamed Sessions’s recusal for leading his deputy, Rod Rosenstein, to appoint a special counsel to oversee the Russia inquiry. (Never mind the fact that Trump himself created the need for a special counsel by firing the director of the F.B.I., James Comey, allegedly for failing to drop his investigation.)
 

bga1

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Actually, Trump has been remarkably effective at purging the Obama legacy of failure, while you leftists have been freaking out daily. Keep it up- this is a sure way to know that he is being successful! :)
 

howeda7

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Actually, Trump has been remarkably effective at purging the Obama legacy of failure, while you leftists have been freaking out daily. Keep it up- this is a sure way to know that he is being successful! :)
Charlie Sykes has an excellent piece about your mind-set. The GOP is now just anti-anti-Trumpism. You know he's basically incompetent and not doing anything he said he would do, but as long as it upsets "Leftists" and the media you'll wave your pom poms high in glee. You no longer care about principles.
 

Section2

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Charlie Sykes has an excellent piece about your mind-set. The GOP is now just anti-anti-Trumpism. You know he's basically incompetent and not doing anything he said he would do, but as long as it upsets "Leftists" and the media you'll wave your pom poms high in glee. You no longer care about principles.
do you care about principles?
 

Costa Rican Gopher

Mind of a Scientist
Trump has made a lot of self-inflicted wounds, but I don't think anyone is being honest and sincere if they don't acknowledge all of the roadblocks by the deep state and politicians that have prevented him from progressing
Precisely. For decades we've heard the status quo/two party supporters warn that if an outsider were elected, the partisan Congress would ensure they couldn't get anything done. People making that argument almost always do so trying to sway independents to vote for their partisan candidate. This is what they were talking about with Trump. The solution is not to only vote for status quo establishment candidates, the solution is to rid Washington of establishment hacks.
 

bga1

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Charlie Sykes has an excellent piece about your mind-set. The GOP is now just anti-anti-Trumpism. You know he's basically incompetent and not doing anything he said he would do, but as long as it upsets "Leftists" and the media you'll wave your pom poms high in glee. You no longer care about principles.
He has done more of what he promised than any politician in years. There have been lists posted on here to that effect and you have seen them. You appear unable to absorb information and process it.
 

Sportsfan24

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Trump has made a lot of self-inflicted wounds, but I don't think anyone is being honest and sincere if they don't acknowledge all of the roadblocks by the deep state and politicians that have prevented him from progressing
While the deep state crap is....crap. I will acknowledge the road blocks. Great job I would like many more; it work well for the GOP against Obama.[emoji1533]


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howeda7

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do you care about principles?
Yes. But I care about results and effects too. You don't. I know you think any that don't agree with your interpretation are invalid. I don't care.

I know you do to. I don't understand why passionately defending a POTUS who has none is one of them though.
 



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