All things Spygate

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Indictment # 1 in Spygate? We will see- perhaps around 5pm today...

 

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I'll just note the source above, and say "See!, it ain't all bad!"
 

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Just to add to that, it would actually be indictment #2 since James Wolfe who worked for the corrupt SSCI was caught in a leak trap and let off easy, prior to Barr being the AG. Watch for the Wolfe situation to resurface as that is big in the whole picture of how complicit congress and the media have been in Spygate/ Obamagate
 

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I'll just note the source above, and say "See!, it ain't all bad!"
They won't report it unless they have to. Indictments kind of force the hand. This is actually a leak to the times to reduce the sting of the announcement. The NYT is heavily complicit in Spygate.
 

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They won't report it unless they have to. Indictments kind of force the hand. This is actually a leak to the times to reduce the sting of the announcement. The NYT is heavily complicit in Spygate.
LOL. What size is your tin foil hat?
 

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Here is a friendly reminder of where we are at on Spygate which is far bigger than Watergate. Watergate took two years to get from the first indictments to Nixon resigning. Who did Clinesmith give up to get this plea? :) :

Per Wiki
  • September 15, 1972: Hunt, Liddy, and the Watergate burglars are indicted by a federal grand jury.
  • November 7, 1972: Nixon re-elected, defeating George McGovern with the largest plurality of votes in American history.
  • January 8, 1973: Five defendants plead guilty as the burglary trial begins. Liddy and James W. McCord Jr. are convicted after the trial.
  • January 20, 1973: Nixon is inaugurated for his second term.
  • February 28, 1973: Confirmation hearings begin for confirming L. Patrick Gray as permanent Director of the FBI. During these hearings, Gray reveals that he had complied with an order from John Dean to provide daily updates on the Watergate investigation, and also that Dean had "probably lied" to FBI investigators.
  • March 17, 1973: Watergate burglar McCord writes a letter to Judge John Sirica, claiming that some of his testimony was perjured under pressure and that the burglary was not a CIA operation, but had involved other government officials, thereby leading the investigation to the White House.
  • April 6, 1973: White House counsel John Dean begins cooperating with federal Watergate prosecutors.
  • April 27, 1973: L. Patrick Gray resigns after it comes to light that he destroyed files from E. Howard Hunt's safe. William Ruckelshaus is appointed as his replacement.
  • April 30, 1973: Senior White House administration officials Ehrlichman, Haldeman, and Richard Kleindienst resign, and John Dean is fired.
  • May 17, 1973: The Senate Watergate Committee begins its nationally televised hearings.
  • May 19, 1973: Independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox appointed to oversee investigation into possible presidential impropriety.
  • June 3, 1973: John Dean tells Watergate investigators that he has discussed the cover-up with Nixon at least 35 times.
  • July 13, 1973: Alexander Butterfield, former presidential appointments secretary, reveals that all conversations and telephone calls in Nixon's office have been taped since 1971.
  • July 18, 1973: Nixon orders White House taping systems disconnected.
  • July 23, 1973: Nixon refuses to turn over presidential tapes to the Senate Watergate Committee or the special prosecutor.
  • Vice President replaced:
  • October 20, 1973: "Saturday Night Massacre" – Nixon orders Elliot Richardson and Ruckelshaus to fire special prosecutor Cox. They both refuse to comply and resign. Robert Bork considers resigning but carries out the order.
  • November 1, 1973: Leon Jaworski is appointed new special prosecutor.
  • November 17, 1973: Nixon delivers "I am not a crook" speech at a televised press conference at Disney World (Florida).
    • November 27, 1973: the Senate votes 92 to 3 to confirm Ford as vice president.
    • December 6, 1973: the House votes 387 to 35 to confirm Ford as vice president, and he takes the oath of office an hour after the vote.
  • January 28, 1974: Nixon campaign aide Herbert Porter pleads guilty to perjury.
  • February 25, 1974: Nixon personal counsel Herbert Kalmbach pleads guilty to two charges of illegal campaign activities.
  • March 1, 1974: In an indictment against seven former presidential aides, delivered to Judge Sirica together with a sealed briefcase intended for the House Committee on the Judiciary, Nixon is named as an unindicted co-conspirator.
  • March 4, 1974: The "Watergate Seven" (Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson) are formally indicted.
  • March 18, 1974: Judge Sirica orders the grand jury's sealed report to be sent to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
  • April 5, 1974: Dwight Chapin convicted of lying to a grand jury.
  • April 7, 1974: Ed Reinecke, Republican lieutenant governor of California, indicted on three charges of perjury before the Senate committee.
  • April 16, 1974: Special Prosecutor Jaworski issues a subpoena for 64 White House tapes.
  • April 30, 1974: White House releases edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes, but the House Judiciary Committee insists the actual tapes must be turned over.
  • May 9, 1974: Impeachment hearings begin before the House Judiciary Committee.
  • June 15, 1974: Woodward and Bernstein's book All the President's Men is published by Simon & Schuster (ISBN 0-671-21781-X).
  • July 24, 1974: United States v. Nixon decided: Nixon is ordered to give up tapes to investigators.
  • Congress moves to impeachNixon.
    • July 27 to July 30, 1974: House Judiciary Committee passes Articles of Impeachment.
    • Early August 1974: A previously unknown tape from June 23, 1972 (recorded a few days after the break-in) documenting Nixon and Haldeman formulating a plan to block investigations is released. This recording later became known as the "Smoking Gun".
    • Key Republican Senators tell Nixon that enough votes exist to convict him.
  • August 8, 1974: Nixon delivers his resignation speech in front of a nationally televised audience.
  • August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns from office. Gerald Ford becomes president.
 

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Newly released emails show that the FBI lawyer who doctored Trump-Russia related documents bragged to his colleagues that he had just "destroyed the Republic."
Kevin Clinesmith, who has been referred to the DOJ for prosecution over FISA application documents that he altered, wrote to another FBI employee: “As I have initiated the destruction of the republic…. Would you be so kind as to have a coffee with me this afternoon?”
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This was seven days after the initial FISA application was sent to the FISA court.

The FISA application gave Obama's FBI the authority to spy on President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign.
Other emails sent on the FBI network from Clinesmith show that he praised Hillary Clinton and bashed Trump.
But wait, it gets better.
Clinesmith was also having an affair with Sally Moyer, another anti-Trump lawyer at the FBI who sent out a tweet in 2017 that said, “Viva le resistance.”
So here's the question: Did he alter the documents as a way of getting a questionable application approved?
On page 445 of the DOJ’s IG report on Clinton’s emails, there is a discussion of what Attorney 2 (Clinesmith) from the FBI texted on October 28, 2016:

Among the general discussion of political issues by FBI Attorney 2, we identified three instant message exchanges that raised concerns of potential bias.
The first of these exchanges was on October 28, 2016, shortly after Comey’s October 28 letter to Congress that effectively announced the reopening of the Midyear investigation.
FBI Attorney 2 sent similar messages to four different FBI employees. The timestamps of these messages are included below.
The messages stated:
13:44:42, to FBI Employee 1: “I mean, I never really liked the Republic anyway.”
13:44:52, to FBI Employee 2: “I mean, I never really liked the Republic anyway.”
14:01:52, to FBI Employee 3: “As I have initiated the destruction of the republic…. Would you be so kind as to have a coffee with me this afternoon?”
15:28:50, to FBI Employee 4: “I’m clinging to small pockets of happiness in the dark time of the Republic’s destruction”
Keep in mind that Clinesmith was one of many anti-Trump FBI officials who had a senior role in the Russia investigation.

Seems like almost everyone who was leading the phony Russia investigation hated Trump and loved Clinton.
And Democrats still want us to believe it was a "fair" investigation.
 

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I suspect the highest that this will go is an indictment of Jim Comey. Those above him have plausible deniability unless Comey admits guilt and turns on them. I don’t think Comey will ever admit guilt and will claim he was fooled by those below him.
 

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Pleading guilty to fabricating evidence so Team Obama could spy on the President -- meanwhile, here are the top three stories currently trending on CNN and their liberal crowd:
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Well, well, well.......

WHERE is justnofacts to present this tidbit? Howie? Jam Jam? CNC? Stroker? St Pauli? STP?

Pleading
Guilty
to
FABRICATING
evidence
 

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Pleading guilty to fabricating evidence so Team Obama could spy on the President -- meanwhile, here are the top three stories currently trending on CNN and their liberal crowd:
Well, well, well.......

WHERE is justnofacts to present this tidbit? Howie? Jam Jam? CNC? Stroker? St Pauli? STP?

Pleading
Guilty
to
FABRICATING
evidence
[/QUOTE]
JTF does not want justice. JTF wants a result that leads to Biden in power, which then leads to leftists pulling the strings of government. The ends justify the means to the left. Always.

The left wreaks havoc on all systems- even the language we use is bastardized by the left. They are making George Orwell into a prophet.

Anitfa - "anti fascists" ....are actually fascists.
Racism- the people playing the race card daily....are the actual racists.
Justice- the social justice warriors turn out to not be for justice at all. They just want to overturn America. China? They cover their eyes. Steve Kerr is a poster child, as is Bron Bron.
 

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The entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation, the Mueller Special Counsel, Gen Flynn. Roger Stone. Michael Cohen, etc. etc. All stem from lead FBI lawyer/investigator Kevin Clinesmith falsifying an email from the CIA & submitting it to the FISC to spy on the Trump admin.
 

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The entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation, the Mueller Special Counsel, Gen Flynn. Roger Stone. Michael Cohen, etc. etc. All stem from lead FBI lawyer/investigator Kevin Clinesmith falsifying an email from the CIA & submitting it to the FISC to spy on the Trump admin.
Clinesmith copping a plea and cooperating is major.

I find this commentary by Trump regarding Christopher Wray extremely interesting:


President Trump sidestepped a question about whether FBI Director Christopher Wray should step down over the bureau’s role in the “Russian collusion” investigation but hoped he would be “forthcoming” about providing documents sought by the Senate as part of its examination of the origins of the probe.

Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo asked the president if Wray should resign after documents revealed FBI officials misled the Senate about the veracity of the Steele dossier.

“So Christopher Wray was put there. We have an election coming up,” Trump responded in the Thursday interview. “I wish he was more forthcoming. He certainly hasn’t been. There are documents they want to get and that we have said we want to get. We’re going to find out if he’s going to give those documents.”

Trump nominated Wray in June 2017 to replace James Comey, whom he fired the month before.

“He’s been very, very protective. He was put there for good reason,” Trump continued. “He was chosen by a certain person, and I said go ahead, put whoever you want. I’m so honest that I said you can put anybody you want. Let’s see how Wray turns out. He’s going to either turn out one way or the other.”


I have to assume that the "certain person" was either Sessions, AG at the time, but effectively on the sidelines....or Rod Rosenstein. The "certain person" wording makes it seem as though this is a person Trump once trusted but now is perhaps under suspicion for cooperating with the coup.
 

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For the past 2+ years a few of us have been saying the entire Russia investigation, and everythinhg downstresam from it was illegal since the FBI knew the 'Dossier' was not verified, and in fact the FBI believed it to be Russian disinformation, but used it anyway to spy on the Trump team.

The response from the anti-Trumpers was that 'No. It was Carter Page's suspicious contacts with the Russians that first got the FBI's attention' and that led the FBI to lawfully get a FISA warrant that just happened to spy on the Trump Admin.

Now, not only do we know Kevin Clinesmith altered the CIA email clearing page's name, so he could use it to illegally get a warrant on Carter Page (and whoever he'd communicated with electronically), but now Clinesmith is admitting it, and pleading guilty.
 

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This of course leads the question of 'Why?'. The FBI knew Page wasn't a Russian agent, so why go through all the risk of illegally gaining a FISA on him? Why all the leaks to the media to make Page appear nefarious? What could the FBI's possible motivation have been to concoct this story about Page, a Trump team member, one month before the Presidential election?
 

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This initial FISA warrant that Clinesmith doctored had to be approved by Comey & McCabe, his bosses. McCabe launched the investigation, and was very hands on. Comey would have had to sign off on a FISA warrant against a Presidential candidate as well. I bet McCabe's sweating.
 

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This of course leads the question of 'Why?'. The FBI knew Page wasn't a Russian agent, so why go through all the risk of illegally gaining a FISA on him? Why all the leaks to the media to make Page appear nefarious? What could the FBI's possible motivation have been to concoct this story about Page, a Trump team member, one month before the Presidential election?
mmmhhmm - and why was old Bob Mueller willing to have his name be put on the scam investigation of Trump when they all knew from day one that there was no Trump Russian collusion and that the whole deal was disinformation from the Clinton campaign. What was Mueller so afraid of that he was willing to put his name on the line in order to run the coup attempt and cover up?

And...why were the media so willing to run interference and even market the whole scam??
 

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Who will fall on their sword to protect Clapper, Brennan, Biden, and Obama?
 

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Who will fall on their sword to protect Clapper, Brennan, Biden, and Obama?
They would be better a ton on a Biden win and subsequent pardon...

I wonder how many deep staters will suddenly die of Covid in the coming months, while getting in hit and run car accidents or plane crashes or dying of covid suffocation under their pillows....
 

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Who will fall on their sword to protect Clapper, Brennan, Biden, and Obama?
There's no protecting Biden. His Ukraine stuff is going to come out. They're so out of good ideas, that they're rehashing the old 'Russia trying to help Trump' narrative as a response. They're not even denying what he did really, just screaming "RUSSIA!!!!" as loud as possible hoping it works again.

The people you mentioned seem to be hoping to make Comey the fall guy. McCabe & Strzok both for for Comey at the FBI, but with Brenann and the CIA. Who will they implicate? I think Brennan's the only one who would fall on thew sword for Obama. He's a true believer.
 

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There's no protecting Biden. His Ukraine stuff is going to come out. They're so out of good ideas, that they're rehashing the old 'Russia trying to help Trump' narrative as a response. They're not even denying what he did really, just screaming "RUSSIA!!!!" as loud as possible hoping it works again.

The people you mentioned seem to be hoping to make Comey the fall guy. McCabe & Strzok both for for Comey at the FBI, but with Brenann and the CIA. Who will they implicate? I think Brennan's the only one who would fall on thew sword for Obama. He's a true believer.
Yesterday they got all jazzed up that Cohen is going to revive the pee tapes. Yep Cohen took a prison sentence without throwing Trump under the bus to Mueller....that's believable! :)

Brennan, may actually have been the one who suckered Obama into doing this. He definitely is a true believer.
 

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Not ONE jam jam clan member dares wade into this lil lesson!!!!

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This of course leads the question of 'Why?'. The FBI knew Page wasn't a Russian agent, so why go through all the risk of illegally gaining a FISA on him? Why all the leaks to the media to make Page appear nefarious? What could the FBI's possible motivation have been to concoct this story about Page, a Trump team member, one month before the Presidential election?
Because TRUMP!!!!!
 
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