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A real estate company part-owned by Jared Kushner has received $90m in foreign funding from an opaque offshore vehicle since he entered the White House as a senior adviser to his father-in-law Donald Trump.

Investment has flowed from overseas to the company, Cadre, while Kushner works as an international envoy for the US, according to corporate filings and interviews. The money came through a vehicle run by Goldman Sachs in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven that guarantees corporate secrecy.

Kushner, who is married to Trump’s elder daughter Ivanka, kept a stake in Cadre after joining the administration, while selling other assets. His holding is now valued at up to $50m, according to his financial disclosure documents.

Cadre’s foreign funding could create hidden conflicts of interest for Kushner as he performs his work for the US government, according to some ethics experts, who raised concerns over the lack of transparency around the investments.

“It will cause people to wonder whether he is being improperly influenced,” said Jessica Tillipman, a lecturer at George Washington University law school, who teaches government ethics and anti-corruption laws.


Kushner was initially denied a security clearance by career officials when he joined Trump’s administration. A whistleblower has told Congress it was blocked due to concerns about Kushner’s outside business interests and “foreign influence”. Kushner was later granted a clearance, allegedly after a Trump appointee intervened.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...nown-offshore-investors-since-2017/ar-AACE9am
Oh I'm still critical of it, I just don't trust the the reporting of an activist journalist from the Guardian who retweets AOC, just like you don't trust articles from the Daily Caller. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find key details missing.
Sweep it under the rug, deuce. Your post dismissing it says it all. And you eat up all the beej, KFC, and CRG posts/links/sources without blinking. You wonder why you've been pegged as a hardcore righty? It's pretty obvious.
 

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Sweep it under the rug, deuce. Your post dismissing it says it all. And you eat up all the beej, KFC, and CRG posts/links/sources without blinking. You wonder why you've been pegged as a hardcore righty? It's pretty obvious.
not really, I'm skeptical of a lot of their links too. I don't really know what a "Hardcore Righty" is supposed to mean. I'm a laissez faire capitalist and Austrian libertarian. I fully admit most of my views would be considered radical and extreme to most Republicans even. So what? You think it's some kind of rip to call me hardcore? You think you've uncovered some hidden truth? Can you just stop being such a joke? Dial back the arrogance and clumsy insults, engage in good faith, and you might learn something.
 

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not really, I'm skeptical of a lot of their links too. I don't really know what a "Hardcore Righty" is supposed to mean. I'm a laissez faire capitalist and Austrian libertarian. I fully admit most of my views would be considered radical and extreme to most Republicans even. So what? You think it's some kind of rip to call me hardcore? You think you've uncovered some hidden truth? Can you just stop being such a joke? Dial back the arrogance and clumsy insults, engage in good faith, and you might learn something.
Hahaha! You never question your hardcore righty buddy sources. You take them as fact. And diss every left source. So you really want to continue to try and claim to be a moderate? You are a lazy hardcore republican. It's not even difficult to identify you any longer. When I see a deuce post....I know that it's going to be an unintentional joke

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Funny. Deuce was critical of this kind of thing up until a couple of years ago. Now? Sweep it under the rug and #yabut. Another example of the non existent deuce principals. What a sham.
2 is the biggest fraud on this board. Beeg is a blindly partisan visceral Trump defender, but at least he doesn't pretend otherwise.
 

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not really, I'm skeptical of a lot of their links too. I don't really know what a "Hardcore Righty" is supposed to mean. I'm a laissez faire capitalist and Austrian libertarian. I fully admit most of my views would be considered radical and extreme to most Republicans even. So what? You think it's some kind of rip to call me hardcore? You think you've uncovered some hidden truth? Can you just stop being such a joke? Dial back the arrogance and clumsy insults, engage in good faith, and you might learn something.
Stocker has been studying up on his Allinsky handbook I see.
 

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His is a stupid view to hold. "He and all of his folks are grifters and thugs?" That is one of the most vapid statements ever- even for jammer. You were far too kind in response to an idiotic, drive by statement like that.

I don't object to people waking up to the truth at any time- as long as what they wake up to is really the truth and not some convenient way to adjust things to fit their current political needs.
I'm willing to concede that Melania might not be a grifter and a thug, except she might have overstayed her visa did get her folks in the country quasi illegally. Abusing the system is grifting and thuggery, humble beggar. Hopefully, Tif is behaving herself. The big boys are grifters and thugs. Everybody else around him is a grifter and a thug.
 

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I fully admit most of my views would be considered radical and extreme to most Republicans even. So what? You think it's some kind of rip to call me hardcore? You think you've uncovered some hidden truth?
So you really want to continue to try and claim to be a moderate?
Why are you the way that you are? Sometimes when you've lost your arm in battle, it's best to just admit that you've been beat, gain some credibility, and move on. Failing is growth. You're determined to be a stump.
 

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2 is the biggest fraud on this board. Beeg is a blindly partisan visceral Trump defender, but at least he doesn't pretend otherwise.
Am I a fake Republican Ron Paul voter who is a passionate defender of socialism?
 

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That’s a conflict that exists for a lot of politicians and administrators. It’s not illegal for her to own stock in companies that could be influenced by Federal policy. She pledged to sell her stock for appearances, not illegality.
That's true. She's just crooked, based on what I posted. Google more about her and her husband. She's corrupt and a swamp creature.
 

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There is no draining the swamp. It's not possible. Politicians are sitting on a lot of things to sell. They're going to sell it. The only solution is to give them fewer things to sell. Washington is too big and powerful. Corruption is inevitable.
 

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There is no draining the swamp. It's not possible. Politicians are sitting on a lot of things to sell. They're going to sell it. The only solution is to give them fewer things to sell. Washington is too big and powerful. Corruption is inevitable.
You called Donovan "not very bright" for overlooking the corruption in the Clinton Global Initiative: http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/bo...ndation-is-very-crooked&p=1246060#post1246060

You called howeda7 "not very smart" for looking the other way with regard to the Clinton Foundation: http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/bo...ndation-is-very-crooked&p=1246841#post1246841

Your devil-may-care attitude toward government corruption seems a bit situational.
 

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A different form of government corruption:

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I find this very analogous to the NCAA violations discussion on the basketball board. We're all subject to the laws of the country, and all any of us want is for the powerful to be held accountable to those same laws. Animal Farm applies just as well to the abuses in our society today as it applied to the scourge of authoritarian communism when it was written.
 

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You called Donovan "not very bright" for overlooking the corruption in the Clinton Global Initiative: http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/bo...ndation-is-very-crooked&p=1246060#post1246060

You called howeda7 "not very smart" for looking the other way with regard to the Clinton Foundation: http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/bo...ndation-is-very-crooked&p=1246841#post1246841

Your devil-may-care attitude toward government corruption seems a bit situational.
Situational is too nice. Hypocrite2 can hang with Beeg and KGF in that category any day. If the Clinton Foundation did something illegal, investigate them all you want.
 

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You called Donovan "not very bright" for overlooking the corruption in the Clinton Global Initiative: http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/bo...ndation-is-very-crooked&p=1246060#post1246060

You called howeda7 "not very smart" for looking the other way with regard to the Clinton Foundation: http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/bo...ndation-is-very-crooked&p=1246841#post1246841

Your devil-may-care attitude toward government corruption seems a bit situational.
That was a lot of effort for low payoff. I took howie and donovan to task for overlooking CGI corruption while railing about Trump's. I just said Hillary's is worse, because it is. Trump hadn't even been elected yet!
 

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Situational is too nice. Hypocrite2 can hang with Beeg and KGF in that category any day. If the Clinton Foundation did something illegal, investigate them all you want.
Why do you think it is that donations to the CGI plunged 58 percent after the election? Or why their "speech" revenue dried up. If you're going to ignore all of that, don't complain about the swamp. I think it's inevitable, which is why I want to shrink the federal government. But delusional dump people like JTF and Howie think if we just get good people in government like Hillary, they'll totes not enrich themselves.
 

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Situational is too nice. Hypocrite2 can hang with Beeg and KGF in that category any day. If the Clinton Foundation did something illegal, investigate them all you want.
That’s rich coming from the biggest hypocrite on tOTB. You won’t criticize the news media unless it’s FNC, are ambivalent or blind to Democrat lying and corruption, and are outraged on a daily basis about something Trump said or did, just like your heroes on MSNBC.

You’re really becoming a clown howie. You used to have a little balance, but I think S2 and/or Trump has caused irreparable brain damage.
 

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That’s rich coming from the biggest hypocrite on tOTB. You won’t criticize the news media unless it’s FNC, are ambivalent or blind to Democrat lying and corruption, and are outraged on a daily basis about something Trump said or did, just like your heroes on MSNBC.

You’re really becoming a clown howie. You used to have a little balance, but I think S2 and/or Trump has caused irreparable brain damage.
The media is not perfect, but the Trumpsters have skewwed it to such a ridiculous extent. And I don't spend dozens of posts cheer-leading all things MSNBC like you do with Fox. In fact I don't recall really mentioning them at all. But sure, they're my heroes :rolleyes:
 

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The media is not perfect, but the Trumpsters have skewwed it to such a ridiculous extent. And I don't spend dozens of posts cheer-leading all things MSNBC like you do with Fox. In fact I don't recall really mentioning them at all. But sure, they're my heroes :rolleyes:
I don’t “spend dozens of posts cheer-leading” for Fox, but I do spend some defending it against BS narratives that you are fond of.
 

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I don’t “spend dozens of posts cheer-leading” for Fox, but I do spend some defending it against BS narratives that you are fond of.
You certainly do. You can rattle off all of their hosts. All of their regular contributors. How so totally fair and balance they are. But I'm not going to DPO you and go count.
 

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You certainly do. You can rattle off all of their hosts. All of their regular contributors. How so totally fair and balance they are. But I'm not going to DPO you and go count.
The game that is played by progs: MSM is down the middle. Fox and any RW media are biased. If MSM isn't covering a story, it's fake and proof of how biased and bad Fox is (or any other RW media source).

And don't think Democrat politicians and those in power aren't aware and don't exploit it. So it's difficult as a RW/Libertarian, because any time you post a story or any evidence, it's immediately discounted. Not with facts, just on its face. And so of course you defend it and Howie says....


The media is not perfect, but the Trumpsters have skewwed it to such a ridiculous extent. And I don't spend dozens of posts cheer-leading all things MSNBC like you do with Fox. In fact I don't recall really mentioning them at all. But sure, they're my heroes :rolleyes:
Just pure emotion and reaction and hatred. Skewed so far it got two Ws.
 

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That’s rich coming from the biggest hypocrite on tOTB. You won’t criticize the news media unless it’s FNC, are ambivalent or blind to Democrat lying and corruption, and are outraged on a daily basis about something Trump said or did, just like your heroes on MSNBC.

You’re really becoming a clown howie. You used to have a little balance, but I think S2 and/or Trump has caused irreparable brain damage.
How do you seriously not recognize the gross hypocrisy in your post, KGF?
 

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The game that is played by progs: MSM is down the middle. Fox and any RW media are biased. If MSM isn't covering a story, it's fake and proof of how biased and bad Fox is (or any other RW media source).

And don't think Democrat politicians and those in power aren't aware and don't exploit it. So it's difficult as a RW/Libertarian, because any time you post a story or any evidence, it's immediately discounted. Not with facts, just on its face. And so of course you defend it and Howie says....




Just pure emotion and reaction and hatred. Skewed so far it got two Ws.
Right. We should all trust Townhall.com andd Breitbart as much as NBC News. They are equivalent in their resources, reputation, truthfulness, and veracity.

As much as you want to try to act like you are able to pull yourself out of the RW abyss, posts like that one prove you are either unwilling or unable, S2.
 

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Right. We should all trust Townhall.com andd Breitbart as much as NBC News. They are equivalent in their resources, reputation, truthfulness, and veracity.

As much as you want to try to act like you are able to pull yourself out of the RW abyss, posts like that one prove you are either unwilling or unable, S2.
That's not what I said. Try again.
 
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