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We see examples everyday why this approach would never work in the US. Plus Japanese are, on average, much healthier than Americans.


Your last statement is correct.
So we have to shut the country down because 25% of Americans are obese and only 4% of Japanese are? I would say that those who are obese have put themselves at risk- with or without covid 19. What say you?
 

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The Japanese do willingly what their government suggests. People have made it clear that they won't comply with even the mildest of suggestions. From the article (which I'll link here since you don't actually link to the tweet itself for some reason.) https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/japan-ends-its-covid-19-state-emergency

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Japan is a very homogeneous nation. So you are arguing against diversity here? I think you are...
 

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Your last statement is correct.
So we have to shut the country down because 25% of Americans are obese and only 4% of Japanese are? I would say that those who are obese have put themselves at risk- with or without covid 19. What say you?
I didn't say anything about shutting/not shutting down the country or who's fault it was the US is a lot more unhealthy than Japan. Japan's approach wouldn't work in the US, do you agree?
 

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I didn't say anything about shutting/not shutting down the country or who's fault it was the US is a lot more unhealthy than Japan. Japan's approach wouldn't work in the US, do you agree?
Actually it would work! The people who have put themselves at risk would be at risk for the disease. Natural consequences...... otherwise you keep having the same problems over and over again.
Maybe we should learn something from Japan on this one.
 

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Japan is a very homogeneous nation. So you are arguing against diversity here? I think you are...
100%. There are few that hate the outsiders more than the Japanese. My nephew has lived there for 8-10 years now (maybe a little less?) and he says it's still really really hard for him to even rent an apartment; many landlords won't consider non-national Japanese for renting.
 

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Actually it would work! The people who have put themselves at risk would be at risk for the disease. Natural consequences...... otherwise you keep having the same problems over and over again.
Maybe we should learn something from Japan on this one.
You really think that if the government here just urged businesses to close down or restrict the amount of visitors, people stay home, keep their distance, wear masks, etc. that most people and businesses would have done it? Some would, many wouldn't. Japan's citizens did a better job of those things without official lockdowns.

This right here would never happen in the US:
Masks now are nearly ubiquitous.
 

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You really think that if the government here just urged businesses to close down or restrict the amount of visitors, people stay home, keep their distance, wear masks, etc. that most people and businesses would have done it? Some would, many wouldn't. Japan's citizens did a better job of those things without official lockdowns.

This right here would never happen in the US:
So then let people suffer the consequences of their own actions. Personally, I don't think we needed to close any businesses. My business is open and producing products as always. Many in the building wear masks that we supply. Everyone social distances. Everyone is coached to wash hands frequently. Temps are taken every morning. We act like adults. For the 100th time, what we needed to concentrate on was protecting the elderly who are ill. If you expend all of your energy trying to herd everyone- then you lose. If you focus on the real targets you have a chance to produce a strategy that wins.
 

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Let's keep this thread AB tweets only. No need to post points of contention. I don't agree with everything he posts but I find it very entertaining to see his contrarian viewpoint (which seem to be closer to the truth than most of what we are getting). thanks.

There's actually already a thread where you can see all of Alex Bereson's [sic] tweets without other GHers arguing them. You can access it by clicking this link.

It's quite telling that you love to read something that agrees with your priors, but want everyone to stop posting anything that challenges those views.
 
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There's actually already a thread where you can see all of Alex Bereson's [sic] tweets without other GHers arguing them. You can access it by clicking this link.

It's quite telling that you love to read something that agrees with your priors, but want everyone to stop posting anything that challenges those views.

Haha, you do the same thing in multiple threads. And virtually everything you post is from Twitter so by your suggestion you can cease posting on GH all together.
 

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Haha, you do the same thing in multiple threads. And virtually everything you post is from Twitter so by your suggestion you can cease posting on GH all together.

The differences:

a) I have started nor encouraged any threads dedicated to any particular person
b) I have never told people not to post rebuttals to those posts
 
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Wait, now I shouldn't go by the latest WHO recommendations because of a "study by experts"? I'm so confused. WHO doesn't have experts?

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Wait, now I shouldn't go by the latest WHO recommendations because of a "study by experts"? I'm so confused. WHO doesn't have experts?

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That's almost 2 months old.

WHAT IS WHO'S VIEW ON MASKS?
WHO recognizes that there are many questions about the use of face masks to prevent the transmission of COVID-19 in the community, and that many countries are recommending that people wear them. Wearing a medical mask can limit the spread of certain respiratory viral diseases, including COVID-19. However, the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection. Other measures such as physical distancing and hand hygiene should be adopted.

WHO aims to provide the most scientifically sound yet practical recommendations for the safety and wellbeing of individuals in all settings.

At present, WHO recommends a risk-based approach to be considered by decision makers when deciding in which settings and circumstances non-medical masks could be used in the community.

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This is how science works. As more studies are done, more info comes out. I have no idea if the study I posted is really true. No one knows right now. There's still a lot of unknowns around masks, and that's my point. If people are properly educated, I see very little downside to wearing them. That's all this comes down to. If we are going to wait to implement things until we're 100% sure they will work, then it will be too late by then anyways.
 

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That's almost 2 months old.



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This is how science works. As more studies are done, more info comes out. I have no idea if the study I posted is really true. No one knows right now. There's still a lot of unknowns around masks, and that's my point. If people are properly educated, I see very little downside to wearing them. That's all this comes down to. If we are going to wait to implement things until we're 100% sure they will work, then it will be too late by then anyways.

I agree and am in the Brit Hume camp. The "science" is not settled contrary to what clowns like JTF keep spewing.
 

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Guessing we won't see much about this. Doesn't fit the #VirusPorn media narrative.

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American censorship, alive and well. Over and over and over again we see, tow the company line or you will be shouted down and won't be heard and will be widely attacked relentlessly.

Amazon originally refused to sell Berenson's book on the COVID pandemic, and now has backtracked quickly.

Amazon Reverses Decision to ban Berenson book

WTF. Seriously.
 

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American censorship, alive and well. Over and over and over again we see, tow the company line or you will be shouted down and won't be heard and will be widely attacked relentlessly.

Amazon originally refused to sell Berenson's book on the COVID pandemic, and now has backtracked quickly.

Amazon Reverses Decision to ban Berenson book

WTF. Seriously.

Colin Kaepernick.

Lol. I hope that you're a bit.....but I'm concerned that you're just an extreme righty who just isn't very aware.
 

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Colin Kaepernick.

Lol. I hope that you're a bit.....but I'm concerned that you're just an extreme righty who just isn't very aware.
I wouldn't stress too much, stocker. You're young, this is pretty much what's expected of you. In 10 years or so you'll be expected to be more of an adult though. But for the time being enjoy the fact that you still got a free pass. I remember those days!
 

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I wouldn't stress too much, stocker. You're young, this is pretty much what's expected of you. In 10 years or so you'll be expected to be more of an adult though. But for the time being enjoy the fact that you still got a free pass. I remember those days!

Uh huh. Sounds like trumpitis is kicking in. So sad for so many.
 

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What's wrong with this? He was actually closer than what many 'experts' were saying in the US on February 22nd. He's adjusted his stance as data has come in, also unlike the 'experts', or the media.

The 'we can't contain it' comment continues to seem pretty accurate as well.
 
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