2020 Presidential Election - Trump versus Biden

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Great. Sounds pretty slam dunk - right? Now, why will no one in the Biden party simply say they aren't real? He has been asked. His campaign was asked. No one will say those simple words. Why not? The campaign contact interviewed (posted by KGF) was ridiculous. Not sure how anyone could watch that and still be so sure? I don't know if they are real or not any better than you do, but common sense tells me the Biden side's reaction to this is suspicious as hell.
Joe Biden has denied allegations and called this a smear campaign. As far as Hunter, my guess is that he is being told by multiple operatives to shut up and not be dragged into this stuff because being public would put more attention on this story which right now doesn't appear to be materially helping Trump.
 

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Joe Biden has denied allegations and called this a smear campaign. As far as Hunter, my guess is that he is being told by multiple operatives to shut up and not be dragged into this stuff because being public would put more attention on this story which right now doesn't appear to be materially helping Trump.
Link to this denial? He has said it was a smear campaign. He has not denied that the information is true.
Hunter I fear is on suicide watch. I pray he is okay and getting help. I view him to be a victim of his greedy father. No father should ever allow his son to be part of something like this. Yet as we speak Joe is raising up the next influence peddler in son in law Howard Krein.
 

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I got a good laugh listening to some Trumptards at work go on and on about Hillary and how Q isn't racist. Hilarious....
 

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Link to this denial? He has said it was a smear campaign. He has not denied that the information is true.
Hunter I fear is on suicide watch. I pray he is okay and getting help. I view him to be a victim of his greedy father. No father should ever allow his son to be part of something like this. Yet as we speak Joe is raising up the next influence peddler in son in law Howard Krein.
As much as you try frantically try to convince yourself otherwise, this election is a referendum on Trump and he's losing badly. The election is only two weeks away and millions of people have voted already.

RCP, including the 3rd parties, has Biden up 8.2% with only 2.4% undeclared. 538 doesn't include 3rd parties but has Biden ahead by 2% more than RCP. The fat lady hasn't sung yet but she's warming up.
 

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As much as you try frantically try to convince yourself otherwise, this election is a referendum on Trump and he's losing badly. The election is only two weeks away and millions of people have voted already.

RCP, including the 3rd parties, has Biden up 8.2% with only 2.4% undeclared. 538 doesn't include 3rd parties but has Biden ahead by 2% more than RCP. The fat lady hasn't sung yet but she's warming up.
This response may contain factual info (I too suspect Biden will win), but it completely avoids the question bga asks you. The fact is Biden did NOT deny the e-mails were real. No one in his entire campaign has - yet you won't even wonder why that is?
 

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This response may contain factual info (I too suspect Biden will win), but it completely avoids the question bga asks you. The fact is Biden did NOT deny the e-mails were real. No one in his entire campaign has - yet you won't even wonder why that is?
Because for the liberals it doesn’t matter. All that matters to them and the theme for the election is Orange Man Bad.

The liberals have pushed all their chips in on the election being a referendum on Trump. The liberals put Biden up as their candidate because they knew they couldn’t win with Bernie or the lesser known “moderates” like Klobuchar.

Democrat’s strategy to win the White House in 2020 was to go with a candidate that really doesn’t offer much other than he is more likable than HRC and he isn’t Trump.
 
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As much as you try frantically try to convince yourself otherwise, this election is a referendum on Trump and he's losing badly. The election is only two weeks away and millions of people have voted already.

RCP, including the 3rd parties, has Biden up 8.2% with only 2.4% undeclared. 538 doesn't include 3rd parties but has Biden ahead by 2% more than RCP. The fat lady hasn't sung yet but she's warming up.
Biden could well win. But in the RCP he actually trails where Hillary was at in the battleground states by .7%. You have to win the electoral college.
Right now the betting line has tightened to 59.9 Biden to 40.5 for Trump. 60-40 is a fairly tight race in the minds of the gamblers. Biden's campaign admitted that the polls are inflated over the weekend. We'll see how Biden weathers this week and what the media can do to help him through this.
Trump can possibly survive a 4 to 5% PV loss and still win the EC.

Will 65 million plus Americans be sheep enough and poorly informed enough to vote for a guy who is known to be "The Big Guy " in a corrupt scheme to sell America out? We'll see. I have one vote. It goes to Trump.
 

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Because for the liberals it doesn’t matter. All that matters to them and the theme for the election is Orange Man Bad.

The election is a referendum on Trump. The liberals put Biden up as their candidate because they knew they couldn’t win with Bernie or the lesser known “moderates” like Klobuchar.

Democrat’s strategy to win the White House in 2020 was to go with a candidate that really doesn’t offer much other than he is allegedly more likable than HRC and he isn’t Trump.
Actually, if someone would say, "I don't care if Joe did these things - I still would rather vote for him than Trump", I would think that is their right. It is the absolute denial that there is any chance at all these e-mails are real is what I find amazing, laughable, and hypocritacal.

BTW: I think "more likable than HRC and not Trump" is proving to be a pretty good strategy.
 

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This response may contain factual info (I too suspect Biden will win), but it completely avoids the question bga asks you. The fact is Biden did NOT deny the e-mails were real. No one in his entire campaign has - yet you won't even wonder why that is?
I already gave my response to the question in other posts. As much as you want me to, I'm not going to keep talking about something that most people, excluding desperate Republicans, don't think is an important issue in this campaign. Do I think this story is legit? No, I don't (and I don't know why anyone who isn't a desperate Republican voter or operative would choose to believe any story originating with Rudy Guliani, especially since he's been identified as a likely Russian asset by national intelligence).

Also, I don't care. Whatever Hunter Biden did or didn't do isn't an issue of importance in this election. Hunter Biden isn't in office nor is he running for office. Biden and other Democratic operatives haven't made Trump's family an issue in this campaign but there is plenty of material there if they chose to do so.
 

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Actually, if someone would say, "I don't care if Joe did these things - I still would rather vote for him than Trump", I would think that is their right. It is the absolute denial that there is any chance at all these e-mails are real is what I find amazing, laughable, and hypocritacal.

BTW: I think "more likable than HRC and not Trump" is proving to be a pretty good strategy.
Let me add to that............these are the same people that posted grave concerns about Trump making money on his hotel chains (which existed before he was elected) and about a potential quid pro quo in a phone call to Ukraine. So concerned were they that they screamed for his impeachment , conviction and removal from office for it. Now they want to put a guy in office who appears to have done far, far worse things than anything they ACCUSED Trump of doing.

Bottom line is that these are progressives and globalists that will do anything to get their people in power so that we can have a socialist, globalist, nanny state.
 

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Let me add to that............these are the same people that posted grave concerns about Trump making money on his hotel chains (which existed before he was elected) and about a potential quid pro quo in a phone call to Ukraine. So concerned were they that they screamed for his impeachment , conviction and removal from office for it. Now they want to put a guy in office who appears to have done far, far worse things than anything they ACCUSED Trump of doing.

Bottom line is that these are progressives and globalists that will do anything to get their people in power so that we can have a socialist, globalist, nanny state.
Don’t forget about Ivanka’s China patents that she’s attempted to make absolutely nothing off of. Didn’t make a dime and only did them to protect her name from being used, but Trump...
 

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I already gave my response to the question in other posts. As much as you want me to, I'm not going to keep talking about something that most people, excluding desperate Republicans, don't think is an important issue in this campaign. Do I think this story is legit? No, I don't (and I don't know why anyone who isn't a desperate Republican voter or operative would choose to believe any story originating with Rudy Guliani, especially since he's been identified as a likely Russian asset by national intelligence).

Also, I don't care. Whatever Hunter Biden did or didn't do isn't an issue of importance in this election. Hunter Biden isn't in office nor is he running for office. Biden and other Democratic operatives haven't made Trump's family an issue in this campaign but there is plenty of material there if they chose to do so.
Quite frankly most people don't yet know about Joe Biden and his role as the "Big Guy" taking a cut in the global influence selling scheme if the Biden family. Many of those who do, are convinced by the "Russia did it" narrative of the left, which is beyond laughable at this point.

Your second paragraph got to the truth- you just don't care if Joe is corrupt. He is. And Bevan Cooney who partnered with Hunter has confirmed the scheme outlined in the emails.

Trump's family was rich before he got to the WH. They have lost millions while he has resided in the WH.
Jared brokered peace in the Middle East while Hunter brokered a deal for crack.
 

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So, let's see. A laptop with incriminating evidence was left at a shop clear across the country from where the so-called owner lived and then never picked up by said owner. The actual Post reporter who wrote this story refused to put his name on it because he believed it was bunk. So, the paper put two names on the story: one was a former assistant to Sean Hannity and the other was a woman who didn't know her name was on the story until after it was published.
And The Fellas swallow the story whole.
 

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I think you‘ve got ”The Fellas” confused with you and Trump-Russia collusion.
Trump-Russia collusion was investigated by multiple departments of the government and resulted in multiple people going to jail.

Hunter-gate is Rudy G and Steve Bannon feeding the RW media the BS that Putin's stooges fed them. I can see how you got them confused.
 

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Trump-Russia collusion was investigated by multiple departments of the government and resulted in multiple people going to jail.

Hunter-gate is Rudy G and Steve Bannon feeding the RW media the BS that Putin's stooges fed them. I can see how you got them confused.
NOBODY went to jail b/c it was true. NOBODY. B/c it wasn’t true. We all know that.

Flynn and Popodopolous got blackmailed by the FBI.
 

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Manafort is in jail. So is Rick Gates. So would Flynn if not for Lyin' Corrupt Bill Barr.
They aren’t in jail for anything to do with Trump Russia collusion. Liar.

I know you want to change the subject, but this is weak.
 

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Interesting to note that in the RCP- only one national pollster has checked in since the scandal opened up on Biden. IDP TIPP has Biden +5 as of the 18th in their daily tracker. I think that pollsters may be avoiding asking questions about the scandal so as not to make people aware. Or, it may be that some pollsters are getting results they don't like and tossing them in the dumpster.
 

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And The Fellas swallow the story whole.
How do you not know this type of response does not help your cause?

The liberals swallowed the whole RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA hoax hook line and sinker.

Some of you still are swallowing the drivel 4 years later.

Talking about another group swallowing a story is beyond ridiculous.
 

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Manafort is in jail. So is Rick Gates. So would Flynn if not for Lyin' Corrupt Bill Barr.
You are lying Howie. You know what they went to jail for and none of them involve Trump or Trump Russian collusion.

Interestingly Manafort was charged with lobbying the Obama administration illegally. More interesting than that is the fact that Alexandra Chalupa working for the DNC, contacted Ukraine and asked them to get going on reviving black ledger dirt on Manafort because she had a tip in January 2016 that Manafort would be joining the Trump campaign- which Manafort did do in April. hmmm

As Brennan told Obama and Biden in July of 2016- Hillary was setting up a hoax against Trump to help her cover he own email scandal.

The whole thing was a set up. Obama was corrupt. Biden right there with him (but dumber).
 

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And The Fellas swallow the story whole.
The Big Guy. Focus like a laser Howie. Biden is the Big Guy. "10 for the Big Guy to be held by Hunter." Confirmed by Bevan Cooney- Hunter's partner.
Joe Biden? No response.
 

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Democrat’s strategy to win the White House in 2020 was to go with a candidate that really doesn’t offer much other than he is more likable than HRC and he isn’t Trump.
Yep and it seems to be working. I hate it, if there was someone else to vote for who could win I would. Trump is still breathing so I have to vote Biden. Sure Biden is probably corrupt, but I think he cares about the country more than dump.
 
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